Is MAGA capable of responding to a moment like this?

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In the spring of 1954, McCarthy picked a fight with the U.S. Army, charging lax security at a top-secret army facility. The army responded that the senator had sought preferential treatment for a recently drafted subcommittee aide. Amidst this controversy, McCarthy temporarily stepped down as chairman for the duration of the three-month nationally televised spectacle known to history as the Army-McCarthy hearings.

The army hired Boston lawyer Joseph Welch to make its case. At a session on June 9, 1954, McCarthy charged that one of Welch's attorneys had ties to a Communist organization. As an amazed television audience looked on, Welch responded with the immortal lines that ultimately ended McCarthy's career: "Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness." When McCarthy tried to continue his attack, Welch angrily interrupted, "Let us not assassinate this lad further, senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?"

Overnight, McCarthy's immense national popularity evaporated.
Censured by his Senate colleagues, ostracized by his party, and ignored by the press, McCarthy died three years later, 48 years old and a broken man.


Not to say trump's national popularity is immense. Far from it. But it is within MAGA. As if it is oblivious to what is happening around us.
USAID cuts have caused more than 330,000 deaths worldwide, BU professor estimates

There will be no nationally televised events during which trump will be required to defend decisions resulting in the deaths of thousands of human beings. No pointed questions about sending immigrants off to a foreign gulag to be tortured after denying them their constitutional rights. No poignant moments questioning his decency. The nation could really use a moment like that. Frankly, today, I don't think it's possible.

BTW, I was reminded of Joseph Welch's moment of moral clarity while watching this excellent Netflix special, which is worth watching.

 
In the spring of 1954, McCarthy picked a fight with the U.S. Army, charging lax security at a top-secret army facility. The army responded that the senator had sought preferential treatment for a recently drafted subcommittee aide. Amidst this controversy, McCarthy temporarily stepped down as chairman for the duration of the three-month nationally televised spectacle known to history as the Army-McCarthy hearings.

The army hired Boston lawyer Joseph Welch to make its case. At a session on June 9, 1954, McCarthy charged that one of Welch's attorneys had ties to a Communist organization. As an amazed television audience looked on, Welch responded with the immortal lines that ultimately ended McCarthy's career: "Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness." When McCarthy tried to continue his attack, Welch angrily interrupted, "Let us not assassinate this lad further, senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?"

Overnight, McCarthy's immense national popularity evaporated.
Censured by his Senate colleagues, ostracized by his party, and ignored by the press, McCarthy died three years later, 48 years old and a broken man.


Not to say trump's national popularity is immense. Far from it. But it is within MAGA. As if it is oblivious to what is happening around us.
USAID cuts have caused more than 330,000 deaths worldwide, BU professor estimates

There will be no nationally televised events during which trump will be required to defend decisions resulting in the deaths of thousands of human beings. No pointed questions about sending immigrants off to a foreign gulag to be tortured after denying them their constitutional rights. No poignant moments questioning his decency. The nation could really use a moment like that. Frankly, today, I don't think it's possible.

BTW, I was reminded of Joseph Welch's moment of moral clarity while watching this excellent Netflix special, which is worth watching.

ITs 100% BS
 
America first means Americans first. People starve all over the world every day.

World starvation is not our problem. Donate all of your money if its that important to you.

A better question is how many deaths were caused by USAID's corruption.

I'm happy cutting spending and closing in on a balanced budget.
 
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In the spring of 1954, McCarthy picked a fight with the U.S. Army, charging lax security at a top-secret army facility. The army responded that the senator had sought preferential treatment for a recently drafted subcommittee aide. Amidst this controversy, McCarthy temporarily stepped down as chairman for the duration of the three-month nationally televised spectacle known to history as the Army-McCarthy hearings.

The army hired Boston lawyer Joseph Welch to make its case. At a session on June 9, 1954, McCarthy charged that one of Welch's attorneys had ties to a Communist organization. As an amazed television audience looked on, Welch responded with the immortal lines that ultimately ended McCarthy's career: "Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness." When McCarthy tried to continue his attack, Welch angrily interrupted, "Let us not assassinate this lad further, senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?"

Overnight, McCarthy's immense national popularity evaporated.
Censured by his Senate colleagues, ostracized by his party, and ignored by the press, McCarthy died three years later, 48 years old and a broken man.


Not to say trump's national popularity is immense. Far from it. But it is within MAGA. As if it is oblivious to what is happening around us.
USAID cuts have caused more than 330,000 deaths worldwide, BU professor estimates

There will be no nationally televised events during which trump will be required to defend decisions resulting in the deaths of thousands of human beings. No pointed questions about sending immigrants off to a foreign gulag to be tortured after denying them their constitutional rights. No poignant moments questioning his decency. The nation could really use a moment like that. Frankly, today, I don't think it's possible.

BTW, I was reminded of Joseph Welch's moment of moral clarity while watching this excellent Netflix special, which is worth watching.

USAID is used for money laundering.

You lefties can donate the missing funds.
 
America first means Americans first. People starve all over the world every day.
I had a feeling you'd say something like that.

"The nation could really use a moment like that. Frankly, today, I don't think it's possible."
 
A it's not the taxpayers job to feed the world. B There are plenty of charities covering this, donate to one
Better to spend close to $1B refurbishing a luxury jet for Dotard than create goodwill in needy areas of the world by saving lives? Have you no sense of decency?
 
I have isolationist tendencies so the US having a smaller sphere of influence isn't the worst thing in the world to me. I just think it is a weird flex for someone who thinks they are going to make America great again to cede influence to China.
 
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In the spring of 1954, McCarthy picked a fight with the U.S. Army, charging lax security at a top-secret army facility. The army responded that the senator had sought preferential treatment for a recently drafted subcommittee aide. Amidst this controversy, McCarthy temporarily stepped down as chairman for the duration of the three-month nationally televised spectacle known to history as the Army-McCarthy hearings.

The army hired Boston lawyer Joseph Welch to make its case. At a session on June 9, 1954, McCarthy charged that one of Welch's attorneys had ties to a Communist organization. As an amazed television audience looked on, Welch responded with the immortal lines that ultimately ended McCarthy's career: "Until this moment, Senator, I think I never really gauged your cruelty or your recklessness." When McCarthy tried to continue his attack, Welch angrily interrupted, "Let us not assassinate this lad further, senator. You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?"

Overnight, McCarthy's immense national popularity evaporated.
Censured by his Senate colleagues, ostracized by his party, and ignored by the press, McCarthy died three years later, 48 years old and a broken man.


Not to say trump's national popularity is immense. Far from it. But it is within MAGA. As if it is oblivious to what is happening around us.
USAID cuts have caused more than 330,000 deaths worldwide, BU professor estimates

There will be no nationally televised events during which trump will be required to defend decisions resulting in the deaths of thousands of human beings. No pointed questions about sending immigrants off to a foreign gulag to be tortured after denying them their constitutional rights. No poignant moments questioning his decency. The nation could really use a moment like that. Frankly, today, I don't think it's possible.

BTW, I was reminded of Joseph Welch's moment of moral clarity while watching this excellent Netflix special, which is worth watching.

You're all-over-the-map here... just what is it that you're asking?

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If you're equating the turning-off of the USAID spigot with McCarthyism... that's much too far a stretch for most folks, I'm afraid.

We owe nothing... NOTHING... to anyone on the face of this planet except our own people.

Most Americans have no problem with the idea of us helping others in an emergency, however...

Most Americans DO have a problem with others chronically leaning upon us to keep them afloat...

We need to be taking care of our own, first and most thoroughly, and then, if there's anything left over, we can help others...

For more sustained efforts, those in need must look more to themselves, their own neighbors and other well-wishers, rather than us...

We can no longer sustain the level of government expenditures that we have been sustaining recently, and it has to end...

Cutting-back on aid to non-Americans is a sensible place to begin those cutbacks...

Cuts to USAID have NOT "caused" 330,000 deaths...

If that 330,000 figure is even accurate, then...

Those 330,000 deaths are the fault and responsibility of the Peoples and Governments of the impacted regions, not the United States...

The United States has oftentimes stepped-up to help RELIEVE such conditions but we are not RESPONSIBLE for those conditions...

The United States is NOT responsible for CAUSING any of those deaths...

Not a one...


And, if this guilt-tripping is all-the-thanks we get for the all the billions we've given to-date over the past eight decades...

Perhaps we need to be re-thinking our FUTURE giving once we get our house back in order again...

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For those who want the US to continue providing foreign aid... I suggest a different approach...
 
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Better to spend close to $1B refurbishing a luxury jet for Dotard than create goodwill in needy areas of the world by saving lives? Have you no sense of decency?
No lives are being saved the democrats are using taxpayer funds as a slush fund to pay off and support their power. Trump is cutting the funding out from under them. No more idiotic programs that do nothing except pay off democrat supporters and advance their progressive policies.
 
I have isolationist tendencies so the US having a smaller sphere of influence isn't the worst thing in the world to me. I just think it is a weird flex for someone who thinks they are going to make America great again to cede influence to China.
Let the Chinese bleed themselves dry (financially) for a while, and see what good THEIR aggressive flavor of Soft Power does for them...
 
Let the Chinese bleed themselves dry (financially) for a while, and see what good THEIR aggressive flavor of Soft Power does for them...
You don't have to bleed yourself dry when you have slave labor and a vast and flexible industrial base.
 
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I have isolationist tendencies so the US having a smaller sphere of influence isn't the worst thing in the world to me. I just think it is a weird flex for someone who thinks they are going to make America great again to cede influence to China.
The ramifications of the US withdrawing foreign aid are not appreciated by MAGA or a blithering idiot like trump. I listened to people who participated in USAID from prior Repub admins speak of how it was essential to the US's standing in parts of the world in need of assistance. Dotard's approach is both ignorant and short sighted.

Human beings will die of AIDS so the one percenters can afford a larger wine cellar.
 
USAID cuts have caused more than 330,000 deaths worldwide, BU professor estimates
You idiots keep claiming this.

Have the left started up new charities to pick up what USAIDS was doing?

Oh of course not, because all it ever was about was laundering taxpayer money to leftwing causes. Y’all never put your money where your mouth is.
 
America first means Americans first. People starve all over the world every day.

World starvation is not our problem. Donate all of your money if its that important to you.

A better question is how many deaths were caused by USAID's corruption.

I'm happy cutting spending and closing in on a balanced budget.
And there's the christian viewpoint. "let them starve".
 

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