Zone1 Is Living in the U.S. A Life Wasted?

[GLASNOST]

Sorry, anyone with the honesty and intelligence of a gnat would know the difference.

Then why do you stumble with the rest of your post, here below?

Are you agreeing with him/her that saying Nazi Germany was also exceptional, is a valid argument against someone saying America is exceptional in a positive way?
Really?

Your honesty and intelligence are both less than that of a gnat.

 

[GLASNOST]

I spent 4.5 years of my youth living in Iran.

I only spent a week in Iran during the revolution, crossing the border at Taftan towards Quetta only 3 days before the hostages were taken in Tehran. I assume you were there before that.

Prior to that we moved every couple years due to my father's job. Once I was an adult I joined the Marines and moved every 3 to 4 years for 20 years. Where I now live is twice as long as I have ever lived anywhere in my entire life and I am more than ready to get the hell out. But the jobs my wife and I both have are too good to just up and leave 5 years before we can both retire. So we will stay till then.

Right now the plan is to retire to Panama, if we do not like it there after a while we will find somewhere else. We will not buy a house there, just rent and move when we are tired of a town. I plan to do that till I am too old and frail to do so, which should be about 20 years at a minimum. Doing this will also allow us to not touch our 401k till the Govt makes us do so.

Moving a couple of more times will be easy for you. But what does your wife have to say about it?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I only spent a week in Iran during the revolution, crossing the border at Taftan towards Quetta only 3 days before the hostages were taken in Tehran. I assume you were there before that.

Yeah, we left about 6 months before the Shah did. Things were very ugly by then.

Moving a couple of more times will be easy for you. But what does your wife have to say about it?

She is 100% on board. Our kids are adults and we have nothing tying us to this town except our jobs.

We plan to sell 90% of what we own before we leave. Almost all the rentals in Panama are fully furnished. Moving is much easier when all you have less to move.

 

[Unkotare]

I don't have a problem because there is no problem......

Your problem seems to be that you don't understand what the United States of America is.

 

[GLASNOST]

Yeah, we left about 6 months before the Shah did. Things were very ugly by then.

Yes, it was a touchy situation. 3 young men threw stones at me from behind in Esfahan. When I turned around I saw a crowd of about 20 people waiting to see what was going to happen. I picked out the ringer leader of the 3 and took a few steps towards him, staring straight into his eyes. I just stood there staring at him for maybe 20 seconds and then I turned back around and continued walking slowly. I was bluffing but it worked.

She is 100% on board. Our kids are adults and we have nothing tying us to this town except our jobs.

We plan to sell 90% of what we own before we leave. Almost all the rentals in Panama are fully furnished. Moving is much easier when all you have less to move.

Seems like you've got it figured out pretty well. I suppose you've already made contact with other ex-pats who know you're coming? Anyway, if it doesn't work out you can throw a party and move to the next country on your list!

 

[GLASNOST]

Your problem seems to be that you don't understand what the United States of America is.

Please stop acting like a child.

 

[Unkotare]

Please stop acting like a child.

Your words.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Seems like you've got it figured out pretty well. I suppose you've already made contact with other ex-pats who know you're coming? Anyway, if it doesn't work out you can throw a party and move to the next country on your list!

We have put a lot of thought and effort in to this. And yeah, we have been in contact with some Ex-Pats as well as the VSO in Panama.

 

[initforme]

Scandinavian countries are nice. Much less hectic.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I belong to a group on Facebook for people who have or are interested in dual citizenship. My mother is an immigrant from Singapore and my wife and I have discussed the likelihood of us retiring outside the U.S. when we reach that age. Someone posted a question today simply asking why people wanted dual citizenship. Most people had very short and basic answers: the ease of visiting family, staying longer, wanting a second home abroad, but this one individual wrote something far more intuitive and rather profound.

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Note: I can't link to this post as it is a private group, so I took a screenshot.

It's hard for me to argue with many of her points. I've travelled all over the world and most people live substandard lives compared to those us in the United States, but there are also plenty of places where people have it better than us, depending on what's most important to you. We do work harder than our industrial counterparts. We do spend less leisure time and less time with our families. We do have a lot of chemicals in our food that other countries do not allow. It does seem like in the United States we're all in a constant rat race, whereas my experience in many European countries is that people live more relaxed and less stressed lives, even if they don't have all the commodities we're accustomed to. I brought up in a thread a few months ago that while Americans make up only 5% of the world population we consume 50% of the world's pharmaceuticals. That's a damning statistic regarding our people.

Are we doing it wrong? I'm curious as to everyone's thoughts.

/-----/ With that attitude, please just leave the US and go find some cradle-to-grave socialist hell hole to call home. BTW, no one forces us to take prescriptions.

Socialized Medicine: A Dose of Reality

Although Britons do have affordable access to primary-care doctors, and everyone in the UK is covered through high taxes, they are subjected to extensive waiting periods for specialists, surgeries and hospitalization. The fact is that many patients die

www.gatestoneinstitute.org

In the UK:
1. Unfortunately, there are facts that would appear to put this fantasy to rest by the facts -- for instance, the tragic and untimely death of a 20-year-old British woman in her dorm room last March. Victoria Hills, a first-year student, died of an ear infection, after "postpon[ing] visiting her campus general practitioner because her student loan had not come through and she couldn't afford the prescription."

2. After performing a perfunctory examination, the doctor would give us a prescription and send us away. The trouble was that the pharmacy in the nearby shopping complex had as little stock on its shelves as every other store in the country. The pharmacist, who had no ingredients with which to prepare the antibiotic the doctor had prescribed, would simply shrug, and continue to earn his state income for doing nothing.

 

[GLASNOST]

Your words.

Cherish them.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... we have been in contact with some Ex-Pats as well as the VSO in Panama.

People you've already met?

 

[GLASNOST]

Scandinavian countries are nice. Much less hectic.

Yes absolutely, but you can't just saunter in taking up residency without permission.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... go find some cradle-to-grave socialist hell hole to call home. ...

Why do you equate "cradle-to-grave socialism" to a "hell hole"? You know absolutely nothing at all about it.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Why do you equate "cradle-to-grave socialism" to a "hell hole"? You know absolutely nothing at all about it.

/——/ I know enough to see how fortunate I am living in the USA and not some hell hole where everyone is fleeing by the thousands.

 

[Unkotare]

Cherish them.

Why? They were incorrect.

 

[GLASNOST]

/——/ I know enough to see how fortunate I am living in the USA and not some hell hole where everyone is fleeing by the thousands.

Let me treat you like an adult just for a moment. If you feel "fortunate" to live in the US that's your business. But you really are lame-brained about Scandinavia. Let us begin your lesson by getting your English grammar straightened out. What are you trying to say (and failing completely) by "where everyone is fleeing by the thousands"? You're lacking a very important proposition here. Are you trying to say "to" or "from"?

 

[GLASNOST]

Why? They were incorrect.

Let me know how much sleep you'll get over that thought.

 

[Unkotare]

Let me know how much sleep you'll get over that thought.

What do you mean?

 

[GLASNOST]

What do you mean?

Of course, you don't understand.