Is it really "illegal?"

[Contumacious]

You really don't get this do you? I am sure you mean well, kiddo, but it's rather apparent you neither understand the issue and you have no experience with illegals, but you love telling the rest of us that DO what we should think. I eat this right up. Please. This is delicious. Tell US what else you don't know anything about. In scotus, That was posted by another well-meaning nice person that NEVER had a blamed thing to do with illegal aliens. Oh brother.

I am 65 years old. Here in Houston we have a gazillion immigrants. But the folks from DC are the ones who are really dangerous.

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[Unkotare]

You really don't get this do you? I am sure you mean well, kiddo, but it's rather apparent you neither understand the issue and you have no experience with illegals.

You seem really, really eager to say this (over and over). You realize it makes you look like an asshole, right?

 

[MaryL]

I don't have to wait. People like you will hand over our country to THEM lock stock and and barrel no questions asked. Because you are soo nice, Just like the Vichy French. And you have no clue what you are doing. You will one day, too bad it isn't NOW. When you realize the magnitude of what you are doing, it will be way to late. Think of me 30 years from now, I think you will.

 

[Unkotare]

Who the **** are you talking to?

 

[Ruiz]

who in america isnt illegal, unless they are native american. it's hard for me to take a white person calling someone an illegal immigrant in a country that they have no right to be in, in the first place. america, australia, nz, were all stolen from the native population by force.

 

[Unkotare]

who in america isnt illegal, unless they are native american. it's hard for me to take a white person calling someone an illegal immigrant in a country that they have no right to be in, in the first place. america, australia, nz, were all stolen from the native population by force.

Clearly, you are both stupid and racist.

 

[BuddyColt]

who in america isnt illegal, unless they are native american. it's hard for me to take a white person calling someone an illegal immigrant in a country that they have no right to be in, in the first place. america, australia, nz, were all stolen from the native population by force.

People are not illegal in America because our system is predicated upon the concept of unalienable Rights. Unalienable Rights mean that you were born with Rights and no man can pass a law to criminalize the Liberties and Rights you were born with.

People have an inherent Right to Travel, the Right to Life and the Right to Liberty. There is quite a civics lesson be learned here and if you PM me I will leave you several links you can check out to see how erroneous the information you're getting really is.

What a lot of people on this board want to do is prohibit immigration. It isn't going to happen. What the U.S. could do is to regulate immigration in a way that people could exercise their unalienable Rights without having to become a citizen. That, of course, makes too much sense, so our short term problems is having to fight against the hard core remnants of the National Socialist Party, K.K.K. and and socialists in general.

 

[Unkotare]

What a lot of people on this board want to do is prohibit immigration.

NO, what a lot of people on this board are opposed to is illegal immigration, you dishonest douchebag.


Your ignorant fantasies will not change reality no matter how badly you wish it.

 

[Unkotare]

People are not illegal in America because our system is predicated upon the concept of unalienable Rights. Unalienable Rights mean that you were born with Rights and no man can pass a law to criminalize the Liberties and Rights you were born with.

People have an inherent Right to Travel.

Wow, you're even more of an idiot than I thought.

 

[starcraftzzz]

What a lot of people on this board want to do is prohibit immigration.

NO, what a lot of people on this board are opposed to is illegal immigration, you dishonest douchebag.


Your ignorant fantasies will not change reality no matter how badly you wish it.

ROTFL I see so people wanting to make immigraiton illegal
and then who dont want illegla immigrants in the country support immigration.
Soudns stupid huh.

 

[Liability]

What a lot of people on this board want to do is prohibit immigration.

NO, what a lot of people on this board are opposed to is illegal immigration, you dishonest douchebag.


Your ignorant fantasies will not change reality no matter how badly you wish it.

ROTFL I see so people wanting to make immigraiton illegal
and then who dont want illegla immigrants in the country support immigration.
Soudns stupid huh.

There is STILL a difference, you dishonest hack ****, between illegal immigration and legal immigration.

I don't want ANY illegal immigrants to stay here (unless they have a valid claim to make for seeking asylum).

But I DO want for there to be a solid immigration policy that allows in all the smart and industrious freedom lovers from other lands as we can get to apply.

Starrrjizzz is just too pathetically and tragically stupid to comprehend any of this.

 

[BuddyColt]

What a lot of people on this board want to do is prohibit immigration.

NO, what a lot of people on this board are opposed to is illegal immigration, you dishonest douchebag.


Your ignorant fantasies will not change reality no matter how badly you wish it.

ROTFL I see so people wanting to make immigraiton illegal
and then who dont want illegla immigrants in the country support immigration.
Soudns stupid huh.

The real issue is not about illegal versus illegal immigrants / aliens. The correct legal terminology is proper versus improper.

The anti - immigrant National Socialists like to cloud the issue, but the bottom line is that all people have unalienable Rights. Those Rights predate the Constitution. Some of your unalienable Rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. So, we cannot infringe upon the Liberties of another person. The word Liberty has a meaning. We cannot infringe upon a person's Right to Travel. It too, is an unalienable Right that existed before the Constitution.

"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941

(Source: Outcasts and Outlaws :: View topic - Liberties, Unalienable Rights and Due Process)

The government COULD regulate immigration, but choose not to. What the government cannot do is to prohibit immigration NOR can they require people to become a citizen (which is a privilege) in order to exercise a Natural Right.

I think the xenophobes know and realize this, but are preying on the ignorance of others. They claim they don't mind if people come here "legally," knowing full well that such doesn't exist. Then they tell you it's all about citizenship. You don't have to be a citizen in order to exercise any unalienable Right. We can regulate immigration and I've advocated doing so. For the xenophobes to make the argument they do, is as starcraftzzz suspects, stupid.

 

[Unkotare]

What a lot of people on this board want to do is prohibit immigration.

NO, what a lot of people on this board are opposed to is illegal immigration, you dishonest douchebag.


Your ignorant fantasies will not change reality no matter how badly you wish it.

ROTFL I see so people wanting to make immigraiton illegal
and then who dont want illegla immigrants in the country support immigration.
Soudns stupid huh.

Is that how is "soudns"?

People who really understand and value LEGAL immigration realize the harm that ILLEGAL immigration does to everyone involved.

 

[Unkotare]

The real issue is not about illegal versus illegal immigrants / aliens.

Yes it is. That is exactly the issue.

 

[Unkotare]

"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941 .

You utter moron, that case and others like it refer specifically to US citizens travelling on public roads within the country. They were not intended or applied to some fantasy of negating US national sovereignty. They haven't even been successfully cited as negating speed limits or drivers licenses, idiot. You're like some dim-witted little kid playing at things he doesn't understand.

 

[Unkotare]

I think the xenophobes know and realize this, but are preying on the ignorance of others. .

Opposition to ILLEGAL immigration does NOT equate to xenophobia (of course).




U.S.C. § 1325

 

[BuddyColt]

"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941 .

You utter moron, that case and others like it refer specifically to US citizens travelling on public roads within the country. They were not intended or applied to some fantasy of negating US national sovereignty. They haven't even been successfully cited as negating speed limits or drivers licenses, idiot. You're like some dim-witted little kid playing at things he doesn't understand.

Asked and answered in the citing source

 

[Liability]

"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941 .

You utter moron, that case and others like it refer specifically to US citizens travelling on public roads within the country. They were not intended or applied to some fantasy of negating US national sovereignty. They haven't even been successfully cited as negating speed limits or drivers licenses, idiot. You're like some dim-witted little kid playing at things he doesn't understand.

Asked and answered in the citing source

The BuddyPopgun fail is endless.

 

[Liability]

NO, what a lot of people on this board are opposed to is illegal immigration, you dishonest douchebag.


Your ignorant fantasies will not change reality no matter how badly you wish it.

ROTFL I see so people wanting to make immigraiton illegal
and then who dont want illegla immigrants in the country support immigration.
Soudns stupid huh.

The real issue is not about illegal versus illegal immigrants / aliens. The correct legal terminology is proper versus improper.

The anti - immigrant National Socialists like to cloud the issue, but the bottom line is that all people have unalienable Rights. Those Rights predate the Constitution. Some of your unalienable Rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. So, we cannot infringe upon the Liberties of another person. The word Liberty has a meaning. We cannot infringe upon a person's Right to Travel. It too, is an unalienable Right that existed before the Constitution.

"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941

(Source: Outcasts and Outlaws :: View topic - Liberties, Unalienable Rights and Due Process)

The government COULD regulate immigration, but choose not to. What the government cannot do is to prohibit immigration NOR can they require people to become a citizen (which is a privilege) in order to exercise a Natural Right.

I think the xenophobes know and realize this, but are preying on the ignorance of others. They claim they don't mind if people come here "legally," knowing full well that such doesn't exist. Then they tell you it's all about citizenship. You don't have to be a citizen in order to exercise any unalienable Right. We can regulate immigration and I've advocated doing so. For the xenophobes to make the argument they do, is as starcraftzzz suspects, stupid.

If one is an improper alien, then one is an illegal alien. Same thing. Exactly the same thing, since entry here without authority and permission IS a crime.

You get an F for your persistent dumb-assed refusal to learn, BuddyPopgun.

The rest of the class is dismissed.

Buddy. Go clean the bathrooms.

 

[BuddyColt]

ROTFL I see so people wanting to make immigraiton illegal
and then who dont want illegla immigrants in the country support immigration.
Soudns stupid huh.

The real issue is not about illegal versus illegal immigrants / aliens. The correct legal terminology is proper versus improper.

The anti - immigrant National Socialists like to cloud the issue, but the bottom line is that all people have unalienable Rights. Those Rights predate the Constitution. Some of your unalienable Rights are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. So, we cannot infringe upon the Liberties of another person. The word Liberty has a meaning. We cannot infringe upon a person's Right to Travel. It too, is an unalienable Right that existed before the Constitution.

"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941

(Source: Outcasts and Outlaws :: View topic - Liberties, Unalienable Rights and Due Process)

The government COULD regulate immigration, but choose not to. What the government cannot do is to prohibit immigration NOR can they require people to become a citizen (which is a privilege) in order to exercise a Natural Right.

I think the xenophobes know and realize this, but are preying on the ignorance of others. They claim they don't mind if people come here "legally," knowing full well that such doesn't exist. Then they tell you it's all about citizenship. You don't have to be a citizen in order to exercise any unalienable Right. We can regulate immigration and I've advocated doing so. For the xenophobes to make the argument they do, is as starcraftzzz suspects, stupid.

If one is an improper alien, then one is an illegal alien. Same thing. Exactly the same thing, since entry here without authority and permission IS a crime.

You get an F for your persistent dumb-assed refusal to learn, BuddyPopgun.

The rest of the class is dismissed.

Buddy. Go clean the bathrooms.

Your stupid ass responses only teaches us that God had a sense of humor. You're almost irritating, but just not quite smart enough so that I can honestly get mad. You're like an aggravating bug, but they always end up being squashed.

For about the umpteenth time, the things that are wrong with your illogical response are, as follows:

1) Improper is not a synonym for the word illegal

2) Not every infraction of the law is a crime

3) Individuals exercising unalienable Rights are not committing a crime

4) If you can't understand that, you need to quit pretending to be something you can't be. If you got a fact rather than an opinion, bring it. I gave you a citing source that contains more than a hundred cited court cases within the article. All you have is your usual banter.

You might impress the hell out of a few people that flunked every subject in school, but that's about the extent of your influence. Otherwise you would address me as a man.