Is it possible for atheism to ever be anything more than critical theory?

[edthecynic]

Critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe.

And that makes YOU a "Critical Theorist" "Cultural Marxist" HYPOCRITE when it comes to Atheism.

How so?
Maybe militant atheism, sure. But atheism in general, no way.

Surprise, surprise, the dumb act.
You equate Atheism with "Critical Theory" and "Cultural Marxism" as positive aspects of Atheism rather than criticisms of Atheism.

Only because the only case that can be made for atheism is to criticize the beliefs of others. By definition that is critical theory.

And by the same token your only case against Atheism is to criticize it, the very definition of a HYPOCRITE.

Not one man in a thousand has either strength of mind or goodness of heart to be an Atheist.
-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

 

[edthecynic]

I can make a positive argument for my beliefs.

No you can't! You can only pontificate what you claim to believe, that you pretend to back up by deliberately misrepresenting anything you cite as support.

Sure I can. I have done so quite often. You just dismiss it. But the case was made.

I dismiss it by giving the actual context of what you cite exposing your deliberate misrepresentations. That is why you run away from those threads only to pop up in a new thread with the same deliberate misrepresentations.

What am I misrepresenting? Can you prove a negative? If not, your only option is to criticize religion.

Actually, I chose the option available to all Atheists, I IGNORE religion.

 

[rightwinger]

Horseshit. I am an atheist. And I have even argued in favor of people being allowed to practice their religions.

The overwhelming majority of atheists simply go about their life without following any religious dogma. However, there are plenty of religious people who seem bound & determined to attack atheists for their lack of belief. This thread is a perfect example of that.

We're on a political message board - attacking and defending beliefs is the point.

Do you remember that atheist guy in the checkout line at the grocery store who wished you a merry Christmas? The atheist who wasn't attacking your beliefs? Of course you don't. He didn't bother to tell you he was an atheist. That's the way it is with most of us, most of the time.

Agree....most the time I just smile and go along with their religious nonsense
I enjoy saying Merry Christmas and God Bless you when you sneeze
I also say God Damnit and Jesus Freak’n Christ

It is only stupid threads like this where morons make ridiculous claims about atheists that I bother to respond

How is the premise of this thread ridiculous exactly?

Are you suggesting that you can confirm your beliefs some other way than arguing against the beliefs of others?

What is ridiculous is that you think I need to

Burden of proof is on you, my friend
You are the one worshiping a creator

You just haven’t convinced me

It is not actually our job to convince you. We can present the information, that's it. The rest is entirely out of our hands.

Very true

Seen the argument and it is not convincing. Claims of magic rarely are

 

[anotherlife]

Atheism was an important third option in the 20th century. A atheism banks on rejecting both God and Satan. Thereby it was conceived as a religion of itself.

But in the 21st century, computers have eliminated this 3rd option, and so wherever there is no God, there is definitely Satan. This caused atheism to lose its history and become more of another satanist cult recently.

Or God and Satan are one and the same, two sides of the same coin making Atheism the ONLY alternative to Satan.

1 Ch 21: 1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

2 Sam 24: 1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

In this case, atheism can't exist, because omnipotence would not give it room. God did create Satan, and as everything that He created, Satan too may be theorized as part of God. However there are different relationships between God and god's parts.

 

[edthecynic]

What positive aspects of atheism do you find?

Not one man in a thousand has either strength of mind or goodness of heart to be an Atheist.

-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

 

[ding]

Critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe.

And that makes YOU a "Critical Theorist" "Cultural Marxist" HYPOCRITE when it comes to Atheism.

How so?
Maybe militant atheism, sure. But atheism in general, no way.

Surprise, surprise, the dumb act.
You equate Atheism with "Critical Theory" and "Cultural Marxism" as positive aspects of Atheism rather than criticisms of Atheism.

Only because the only case that can be made for atheism is to criticize the beliefs of others. By definition that is critical theory.

And by the same token your only case against Atheism is to criticize it, the very definition of a HYPOCRITE.

Not one man in a thousand has either strength of mind or goodness of heart to be an Atheist.
-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

I'm not making a case against atheism. I make positive cases for my beliefs. Does that offend you that I do?

Because it seems it does. It seems to me that when I make a positive case for my beliefs you take it as an attack on you beliefs.

Nonetheless, it doesn't change the fact that you have still not disagreed with the OP.

 

[ding]

What positive aspects of atheism do you find?

Not one man in a thousand has either strength of mind or goodness of heart to be an Atheist.

-- Samuel Taylor Coleridge

I was sort of hoping you could provide examples of how atheism has been a force for good through actions and deeds. Do you have any examples of that?

Because if you did, you might be able to make a positive case for atheism that way.

 

[ding]

I can make a positive argument for my beliefs.

No you can't! You can only pontificate what you claim to believe, that you pretend to back up by deliberately misrepresenting anything you cite as support.

Sure I can. I have done so quite often. You just dismiss it. But the case was made.

I dismiss it by giving the actual context of what you cite exposing your deliberate misrepresentations. That is why you run away from those threads only to pop up in a new thread with the same deliberate misrepresentations.

What am I misrepresenting? Can you prove a negative? If not, your only option is to criticize religion.

Actually, I chose the option available to all Atheists, I IGNORE religion.

Clearly you don't read what you write.

 

[ding]

Ok, it appears that some atheists believe that they can prove a negative.

Can we get a show of hands who believes they can prove a negative?

Because if you can't prove a negative how do you propose making an affirmative or positive case for atheism?

 

[edthecynic]

Atheism was an important third option in the 20th century. A atheism banks on rejecting both God and Satan. Thereby it was conceived as a religion of itself.

But in the 21st century, computers have eliminated this 3rd option, and so wherever there is no God, there is definitely Satan. This caused atheism to lose its history and become more of another satanist cult recently.

Or God and Satan are one and the same, two sides of the same coin making Atheism the ONLY alternative to Satan.

1 Ch 21: 1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

2 Sam 24: 1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

In this case, atheism can't exist, because omnipotence would not give it room. God did create Satan, and as everything that He created, Satan too may be theorized as part of God. However there are different relationships between God and god's parts.

The two verses clearly label Satan as God, not created by God as you falsely claim.

And as far as omnipotence goes, Agathon said it best:
Even God cannot change the past.
- Agathon

 

[edthecynic]

No you can't! You can only pontificate what you claim to believe, that you pretend to back up by deliberately misrepresenting anything you cite as support.

Sure I can. I have done so quite often. You just dismiss it. But the case was made.

I dismiss it by giving the actual context of what you cite exposing your deliberate misrepresentations. That is why you run away from those threads only to pop up in a new thread with the same deliberate misrepresentations.

What am I misrepresenting? Can you prove a negative? If not, your only option is to criticize religion.

Actually, I chose the option available to all Atheists, I IGNORE religion.

Clearly you don't read what you write.

More clearly, what I write sails way over your head.

 

[anotherlife]

Atheism was an important third option in the 20th century. A atheism banks on rejecting both God and Satan. Thereby it was conceived as a religion of itself.

But in the 21st century, computers have eliminated this 3rd option, and so wherever there is no God, there is definitely Satan. This caused atheism to lose its history and become more of another satanist cult recently.

Or God and Satan are one and the same, two sides of the same coin making Atheism the ONLY alternative to Satan.

1 Ch 21: 1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

2 Sam 24: 1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

In this case, atheism can't exist, because omnipotence would not give it room. God did create Satan, and as everything that He created, Satan too may be theorized as part of God. However there are different relationships between God and god's parts.

The two verses clearly label Satan as God, not created by God as you falsely claim.

And as far as omnipotence goes, Agathon said it best:
Even God cannot change the past.
- Agathon

The problem is that these are all false statements. And agathon is not God, he can be wrong. Of course God can change the past, mathematically from the infinity start point this is easily possible at least.

 

[ding]

Sure I can. I have done so quite often. You just dismiss it. But the case was made.

I dismiss it by giving the actual context of what you cite exposing your deliberate misrepresentations. That is why you run away from those threads only to pop up in a new thread with the same deliberate misrepresentations.

What am I misrepresenting? Can you prove a negative? If not, your only option is to criticize religion.

Actually, I chose the option available to all Atheists, I IGNORE religion.

Clearly you don't read what you write.

More clearly, what I write sails way over your head.

Well then break it down for me.

Do you believe you can prove a negative?

If not how do you validate your beliefs?

 

[rightwinger]

Atheism was an important third option in the 20th century. A atheism banks on rejecting both God and Satan. Thereby it was conceived as a religion of itself.

But in the 21st century, computers have eliminated this 3rd option, and so wherever there is no God, there is definitely Satan. This caused atheism to lose its history and become more of another satanist cult recently.

If it doesn’t believe in either....how can it be satanic?

 

[rightwinger]

Ok, it appears that some atheists believe that they can prove a negative.

Can we get a show of hands who believes they can prove a negative?

Because if you can't prove a negative how do you propose making an affirmative or positive case for atheism?

We do not have to prove anything
We are not making a claim

 

[ding]

Ok, it appears that some atheists believe that they can prove a negative.

Can we get a show of hands who believes they can prove a negative?

Because if you can't prove a negative how do you propose making an affirmative or positive case for atheism?

We do not have to prove anything
We are not making a claim

That isn't what I have observed here. What I have observed is exactly what the OP describes. Atheists validating their beliefs by attacking the beliefs of others.

It's the reality of the situation. The atheists who post here are literally offended by the beliefs of others which is why they criticize them; it's the only way they can validate their beliefs.

 

[dblack]

Because if you can't prove a negative how do you propose making an affirmative or positive case for atheism?

I don't. That's what you can't seem to accept.

 

[ding]

Ok, it appears that some atheists believe that they can prove a negative.

Can we get a show of hands who believes they can prove a negative?

Because if you can't prove a negative how do you propose making an affirmative or positive case for atheism?

We do not have to prove anything
We are not making a claim

Seems to me that you are making a claim.

Better than the ones provided by God where the first four say........You better worship me!

God never had any reservations about killing babies

God seems to have anger issues

The Great Flood, Killing the firstborn of Egypt

He needs to learn to lighten up

Going by what is in the Bible, what has the Devil done that is so horrible?

God destroyed almost every living creature on earth
God killed the first born children of Egypt

What has the Devil done of that magnitude ?

If I were to write the Bible, I would have blamed the Great Flood on the Devil

I would not have used it as a reason to worship my God

God can and does murder the innocent

Impregnating a child is another issue

 

[edthecynic]

Atheism was an important third option in the 20th century. A atheism banks on rejecting both God and Satan. Thereby it was conceived as a religion of itself.

But in the 21st century, computers have eliminated this 3rd option, and so wherever there is no God, there is definitely Satan. This caused atheism to lose its history and become more of another satanist cult recently.

Or God and Satan are one and the same, two sides of the same coin making Atheism the ONLY alternative to Satan.

1 Ch 21: 1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

2 Sam 24: 1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

In this case, atheism can't exist, because omnipotence would not give it room. God did create Satan, and as everything that He created, Satan too may be theorized as part of God. However there are different relationships between God and god's parts.

The two verses clearly label Satan as God, not created by God as you falsely claim.

And as far as omnipotence goes, Agathon said it best:
Even God cannot change the past.
- Agathon

The problem is that these are all false statements. And agathon is not God, he can be wrong. Of course God can change the past, mathematically from the infinity start point this is easily possible at least.

Nope, your impotent God can't change the past, the same Super God who made him torture and murder his only begotten son won't let him change the past.

 

[edthecynic]

I dismiss it by giving the actual context of what you cite exposing your deliberate misrepresentations. That is why you run away from those threads only to pop up in a new thread with the same deliberate misrepresentations.

What am I misrepresenting? Can you prove a negative? If not, your only option is to criticize religion.

Actually, I chose the option available to all Atheists, I IGNORE religion.

Clearly you don't read what you write.

More clearly, what I write sails way over your head.

Well then break it down for me.

Do you believe you can prove a negative?

If not how do you validate your beliefs?

I have no beliefs to validate, I'm a nonbeliever. The burden of proof is on the believer.