Is Home-Schooling a Fundamental Right?

[Truthmatters]

the SCOTUS has had many an opportunity to say public education is extraconstitutional.

They never have and never will you crazy brain dead cons

Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U.S. 510 (1925)

The Court stated that children were not "the mere creature of the state", and that, by its very nature, the traditional American understanding of the term liberty prevented the state from forcing students to accept instruction only from public schools. The Court ruled that this responsibility belonged to the child's parents or guardians, and that the ability to make such a choice was a "liberty" protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.

BTW, the decision was unanimous.

Pierce v. Society of Sisters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


that decision had nothing to do with finding public education extraconstitutional you fool

 

[Truthmatters]

who determines what the truth is? facts do!

one of the the unalienable rights with which we are all endowed by our nature is the right to believe what we believe. Freedom of conscience. You can not force people to believe something even if it is true. They have to believe it for themselves.

stop embracing the lies of the right

who determines what the facts are?

facts do!!!!

 

[Truthmatters]

that is your whole right wing problem

Your party out right denies FACTS to hold your crazy stupid opinions

 

[legaleagle_45]

the SCOTUS has had many an opportunity to say public education is extraconstitutional.

They never have and never will you crazy brain dead cons

Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U.S. 510 (1925)

The Court stated that children were not "the mere creature of the state", and that, by its very nature, the traditional American understanding of the term liberty prevented the state from forcing students to accept instruction only from public schools. The Court ruled that this responsibility belonged to the child's parents or guardians, and that the ability to make such a choice was a "liberty" protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.

BTW, the decision was unanimous.

Pierce v. Society of Sisters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


that decision had nothing to do with finding public education extraconstitutional you fool

What it does stand for is the proposition that there is a fundamental right to home school your children, which is the topic of this thread... FOOL.

 

[legaleagle_45]

that is your whole right wing problem

Your party out right denies FACTS to hold your crazy stupid opinions

So you get to determine what the facts are?

 

[theHawk]

I feel certain that even our Liberal friends will see this attack on individual liberty is a line that no democracy should cross.

....and then TM showed up.

 

[Truthmatters]

No facts do.

can you give me an example of what you determine a fact is?

 

[Truthmatters]

that is your whole right wing problem

Your party out right denies FACTS to hold your crazy stupid opinions

So you get to determine what the facts are?

Is the earth round?

 

[PoliticalChic]

the SCOTUS has had many an opportunity to say public education is extraconstitutional.

They never have and never will you crazy brain dead cons

I am surprised that you are opposed to liberty.

Perhaps this tutorial will help:

I. Pierce v. Society of Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary, 268 U.S. 510 (1925), was an early 20th century United States Supreme Court decision which significantly expanded coverage of the Due Process Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The Compulsory Education Act, prior to amendment, had required all Oregon children between eight and sixteen years of age to attend public school. There were several exceptions incorporated in this Act:
1. Children who were mentally or physically unable to attend school
2. Children who had graduated from eighth grade
3. Children living more than a specified distance by road from the nearest school
4. Children being home-schooled or tutored (subject to monitoring by the local school district)
5. Children attending a state-recognized private school Pierce v. Society of Sisters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



II. The Act was amended by the 1922 initiative,[2] which would have taken effect on September 1, 1926, eliminated the exception for attendees of private schools. Private schools viewed this as an attack on their right to enroll students and do business in the state of Oregon.
Associate Justice James Clark McReynolds wrote the opinion of the Court. He stated that children were not "the mere creature of the state" (268 U.S. 510, 535), and that, by its very nature, the traditional American understanding of the term liberty prevented the state from forcing students to accept instruction only from public schools. He stated that this responsibility belonged to the child's parents or guardians, and that the ability to make such a choice was a "liberty" protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. Ibid.


III. “The fundamental theory of liberty upon which all governments of this Union rest excludes any general power of the State to standardize its children by forcing them to accept instruction from public teachers only.” P. 268 U. S. 535. Pierce v. Society of Sisters - 268 U.S. 510 (1925) :: Justia US Supreme Court Center


IV. There is no convincing evidence that certified teachers are more effective in the classroom or that ed-school-based training helps.
Education Schools Project
See http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dstaiger/Papers/nyc fellows march 2006.pdf for evidence that certification has very little effect on student achievement.


V. “…private schools appear to do fine- perhaps better-without being compelled to hire state certified teachers.”
Chester Finn, “Troublemaker,” p. 283.

The American Board for Certification of Teacher Excellence proposed the following requirements alone for a teaching license: graduate college, pass a criminal background check, and a rigorous test of knowledge of their subject.

 

[legaleagle_45]

How does one determine what a fact is?

 

[legaleagle_45]

that is your whole right wing problem

Your party out right denies FACTS to hold your crazy stupid opinions

So you get to determine what the facts are?

Is the earth round?

No the earth is spherical and bulged at the equater. Anything else?

 

[JWBooth]

How does one determine what a fact is?

Facts is whatever Huffpo say they is.

 

[PoliticalChic]

i bet you are a terrrible teacher PC

Does this change of subject indicate that you are retreating from your earlier position, and have reconsidered your opposition to liberty?

 

[Truthmatters]

So you get to determine what the facts are?

Is the earth round?

No the earth is spherical and bulged at the equater. Anything else?

document your claim with facts

 

[Truthmatters]

Is the earth the center of the universe?

 

[Truthmatters]

i bet you are a terrrible teacher PC

Does this change of subject indicate that you are retreating from your earlier position, and have reconsidered your opposition to liberty?

nutbag you dont even know my position

 

[legaleagle_45]

Is the earth round?

No the earth is spherical and bulged at the equater. Anything else?

document your claim with facts

No

 

[Truthmatters]

why not?

 

[PoliticalChic]

i bet you are a terrrible teacher PC

Does this change of subject indicate that you are retreating from your earlier position, and have reconsidered your opposition to liberty?

nutbag you dont even know my position

Our new member certainly recognized your doctrines.

 

[JWBooth]

i bet you are a terrrible teacher PC

Does this change of subject indicate that you are retreating from your earlier position, and have reconsidered your opposition to liberty?

nutbag you dont even know my position

Sure we do, hunched over the keyboard with a bottle of schnapps within reach.