Is having Greenland something that Americans will gain some personal benefit from? If not, why is Trump set on getting it?

[Dr Grump]

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How many bases do we have there?....

One. But Denmark and Greenland are both open to the US having more. That aside, what right does the US have to even think of going onto the sovereign territory of another country? Especially an ally? This is the type of shit tinpot dictators pull out the bag. You know, Adolf et al. Noriega I get. Even the Venezuelan idiot I get. But Greenland? You have thousands of nukes for chrissakes. If they aren't a defensive deterrent, then nothing you do is going to work.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What is the personal and economic benefit of getting Greenland for Americans. Will our economic, health, or income become better if we get it?

Trump said we need Greenland for our National Security:



but this map does not explain why we need it. After all, we have Alaska that is next to Russia, whereas Greenland is not close to Russia and even then, there are many other nations between Russia and Greenland and they are not supporting us taking over, even though if we took it over, they would have closer protection from us than they presently have:

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By getting Greenland, no Americans are going to get any additional benefits for their lives. In fact, the expense of getting Greenland and defending it (against Russia and China) would actually take away benefits we need, such lower cost of Health Insurance, etc.

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If the U.S. were to acquire Greenland, Americans would likely lose stability in NATO alliances and international trust, face significant economic burdens from managing a remote territory with high social costs, risk retaliatory trade wars (tariffs) from European allies, and deal with potentially complex internal secessionist movements inspired by Greenland's own independence drive.

Why then should we (Americans) support Trump's own STRONG desire to take over Greenland if the only benefit is for supporting his ego?

A fine display of ignorance on your part. If this is all about Trump's ego, why did the US, still standing in the ashes of the Civil War, try to buy Greenland in 1867 and why did FDR invoke the Monroe doctrine and send US troops to occupy Greenland as soon as the US entered WWII?

Greenland's importance to the US national security is about its closeness to North America, not to Russia, so if Russia or China were to gain control over Greenland it would greatly compromise the national security of the US.

But how could that ever happen, you ask?

Greenland is a Danish colony with a population of about 56,000 people, and Denmark's economy is heavily dependent on trade with China, so it is not inconceivable that Denmark might ink a deal with China to develop Greenland's abundant natural resources, especially its large reserve of rare earth minerals, and once the Chinese were in there it would be extremely difficult to monitor what they are doing or to get them out if it should come to that.

Greenland is important to US national security in another way. Presently, China supplies about 80% of the rare earth mineral the world uses to manufacture its ever increasing array of electronic devices and it controls about 50% of the world's reserves of rare earth minerals. Since his second term began, Trump has been on a mission to acquire the 50% of the world's rare earth minerals China does not already control. He has signed a deal with Ukraine to mine its large reserve of rare earth minerals, but the US does not have access to it because of the war, he will sign a deal with Venezuela to mine its large reserve of rare earth minerals and if the US acquires control of Greenland, it will have control over about 50% of the world's rare earth minerals, preventing China from being able to use its production of rare earth minerals as leverage to other countries.

When the Europeans needed US help, we sent over millions of American soldiers, vast amounts of weapons and huge amount of humanitarian supplies, and we bankrolled the reconstruction of Europe after the war and we constructed the post war world to try to prevent the Europeans from suffering the ravages of war again, but when the US asked Europe's help to shore up its own defenses and to prevent China from cornering the market on rare earth minerals by buying Greenland, The Europeans flatly said, no.

It is not clear that the European members of NATO can reasonably be called allies anymore, it is not at all clear that the US any longer benefits from membership in NATO.

 

[Dr Grump]

Are the Danes going to pay for these bases that would be protecting their territory? In fact we should, then send them the bill. Selling Greenland would look a lot more attractive then.

Meh. You have one base. And since when have Russia or China even sent an inkling that they even want the place. They don't. Why? NATO. So your argument is superfluous.

 

[Rambunctious]

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One. But Denmark and Greenland are both open to the US having more. That aside, what right does the US have to even think of going onto the sovereign territory of another country? Especially an ally? This is the type of shit tinpot dictators pull out the bag. You know, Adolf et al. Noriega I get. Even the Venezuelan idiot I get. But Greenland? You have thousands of nukes for chrissakes. If they aren't a defensive deterrent, then nothing you do is going to work.

You sound like the people who didn't want us to purchase Alaska... you are just as wrong as they were....

 

[Rambunctious]

We already send up to 12 million to Greenland each year for various needs and projects... some say it would cost $700 billion to buy Greenland... well worth it for the national security and rare earth minerals we would enjoy....

 

[Dr Grump]

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A fine display of ignorance on your part. If this is all about Trump's ego, why did the US, still standing in the ashes of the Civil War, try to buy Greenland in 1867 and why did FDR invoke the Monroe doctrine and send US troops to occupy Greenland as soon as the US entered WWII?

Greenland's importance to the US national security is about its closeness to North America, not to Russia, so if Russia or China were to gain control over Greenland it would greatly compromise the national security of the US.

But how could that ever happen, you ask?

Greenland is a Danish colony with a population of about 56,000 people, and Denmark's economy is heavily dependent on trade with China, so it is not inconceivable that Denmark might ink a deal with China to develop Greenland's abundant natural resources, especially its large reserve of rare earth minerals, and once the Chinese were in there it would be extremely difficult to monitor what they are doing or to get them out if it should come to that.

Greenland is important to US national security in another way. Presently, China supplies about 80% of the rare earth mineral the world uses to manufacture its ever increasing array of electronic devices and it controls about 50% of the world's reserves of rare earth minerals. Since his second term began, Trump has been on a mission to acquire the 50% of the world's rare earth minerals China does not already control. He has signed a deal with Ukraine to mine its large reserve of rare earth minerals, but the US does not have access to it because of the war, he will sign a deal with Venezuela to mine its large reserve of rare earth minerals and if the US acquires control of Greenland, it will have control over about 50% of the world's rare earth minerals, preventing China from being able to use its production of rare earth minerals as leverage to other countries.

When the Europeans needed US help, we sent over millions of American soldiers, vast amounts of weapons and huge amount of humanitarian supplies, and we bankrolled the reconstruction of Europe after the war and we constructed the post war world to try to prevent the Europeans from suffering the ravages of war again, but when the US asked Europe's help to shore up its own defenses and to prevent China from cornering the market on rare earth minerals by buying Greenland, The Europeans flatly said, no.

It is not clear that the European members of NATO can reasonably be called allies anymore, it is not at all clear that the US any longer benefits from membership in NATO.

What a load of utter crap. Then start trading with Greenland instead of threatening it. Western Europe does owe thanks to the US for WWII but that was almost 80 years ago. How far back do you want to go to justify your imperialism/colonialism. And that is what it is. Oh, the irony of right-wing chickenhawks going on about their founding fathers breaking the yoke of European imperialism, only for their ancestors 250 years later to be doing the same.

You are starting to sound like the British in the 18th century. You are becoming the very thing your kind claimed to despise.

 

[Dr Grump]

We already send up to 12 million to Greenland each year for various needs and projects... some say it would cost $700 billion to buy Greenland... well worth it for the national security and rare earth minerals we would enjoy....

Oh, so the moral of the story is, the US should own every country it helps out financially? $12 million is nothing if that is the case. Even $12 billion is nothing.

 

[Dr Grump]

You sound like the people who didn't want us to purchase Alaska... you are just as wrong as they were....

I'm not the one taking the polls. Yeah, let's compare being under the thumb of Tsarist Russia in the 19th century to modern-day Denmark, a thriving democracy that almost every year is in the Top 5 countries where its citizens are the happiest in the World. You know, the word Nazi is thrown around way too much these days. I look at the US now, and what Trump is attempting to do, and I look at Germany 1933-36 (no NOT during the war) and there is very little difference. And you are the enablers. And for years I've debated with right-wingers on this board and how they saved 'the World's arse during WWII' etc, and here they are championing the very things they claim to hate. Interesting.

 

[Rambunctious]

Oh, so the moral of the story is, the US should own every country it helps out financially? $12 million is nothing if that is the case. Even $12 billion is nothing.

Greenland is in our back yard and because of libs who hate mining inside of our borders we are dependant on China for rare earth minerals that we need for clean renewable energy.... AI... and new medical procedures to cure diseases like cancer and heart disease...
Greenland is a rare earth gold mine... and this is why China wants it and doesn't want us to have it....

 

[Rogue AI]

Meh. You have one base. And since when have Russia or China even sent an inkling that they even want the place. They don't. Why? NATO. So your argument is superfluous.

Why does China call itself a near-arctic power? They are nowhere near the arctic. There are only so many options towards expansion.

How Greenland could become China's Arctic base

The vast northern expanse of Greenland needs investment, and China is willing to help – for a price.

www.bbc.com

 

[toomuchtime_]

I'm not the one taking the polls. Yeah, let's compare being under the thumb of Tsarist Russia in the 19th century to modern-day Denmark, a thriving democracy that almost every year is in the Top 5 countries where its citizens are the happiest in the World. You know, the word Nazi is thrown around way too much these days. I look at the US now, and what Trump is attempting to do, and I look at Germany 1933-36 (no NOT during the war) and there is very little difference. And you are the enablers. And for years I've debated with right-wingers on this board and how they saved 'the World's arse during WWII' etc, and here they are championing the very things they claim to hate. Interesting.

You say you think the word nazi is used too oftern, and yet the only thing you have to say in your post is that Trumps looks just like a nazi to you.

hmmmm

 

[Luckyone]

A fine display of ignorance on your part. If this is all about Trump's ego, why did the US, still standing in the ashes of the Civil War, try to buy Greenland in 1867 and why did FDR invoke the Monroe doctrine and send US troops to occupy Greenland as soon as the US entered WWII?

Greenland's importance to the US national security is about its closeness to North America, not to Russia, so if Russia or China were to gain control over Greenland it would greatly compromise the national security of the US.

But how could that ever happen, you ask?

Greenland is a Danish colony with a population of about 56,000 people, and Denmark's economy is heavily dependent on trade with China, so it is not inconceivable that Denmark might ink a deal with China to develop Greenland's abundant natural resources, especially its large reserve of rare earth minerals, and once the Chinese were in there it would be extremely difficult to monitor what they are doing or to get them out if it should come to that.

Greenland is important to US national security in another way. Presently, China supplies about 80% of the rare earth mineral the world uses to manufacture its ever increasing array of electronic devices and it controls about 50% of the world's reserves of rare earth minerals. Since his second term began, Trump has been on a mission to acquire the 50% of the world's rare earth minerals China does not already control. He has signed a deal with Ukraine to mine its large reserve of rare earth minerals, but the US does not have access to it because of the war, he will sign a deal with Venezuela to mine its large reserve of rare earth minerals and if the US acquires control of Greenland, it will have control over about 50% of the world's rare earth minerals, preventing China from being able to use its production of rare earth minerals as leverage to other countries.

When the Europeans needed US help, we sent over millions of American soldiers, vast amounts of weapons and huge amount of humanitarian supplies, and we bankrolled the reconstruction of Europe after the war and we constructed the post war world to try to prevent the Europeans from suffering the ravages of war again, but when the US asked Europe's help to shore up its own defenses and to prevent China from cornering the market on rare earth minerals by buying Greenland, The Europeans flatly said, no.

It is not clear that the European members of NATO can reasonably be called allies anymore, it is not at all clear that the US any longer benefits from membership in NATO.

You said it! We have tried to get Greenland since 1867 and so far we haven’t, and it has not hurt us at all. China has been in this world longer than we have, and they too have had many chances at doing so, but haven’t either. Last but not least, there has been no threats to do so now, so we have no clear reason to do it now either, other than Trump’s ego!!! So, who is the ignorant one now?

 

[Seymour Flops]

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One. But Denmark and Greenland are both open to the US having more. That aside, what right does the US have to even think of going onto the sovereign territory of another country? Especially an ally? This is the type of shit tinpot dictators pull out the bag. You know, Adolf et al. Noriega I get. Even the Venezuelan idiot I get. But Greenland? You have thousands of nukes for chrissakes. If they aren't a defensive deterrent, then nothing you do is going to work.

Three answers:

1) we have the right to "think about" anything we want to think about.

2) The doctrine of Manifest Destiny applies to Greenland. Without Manifest destiny, the U.S. would still be thirteen states, with Europe in charge of the remainder of North America. Then how would we have been able to save Europe over and over?

3) Was Harry Truman also Adolph Hitler for wanting to acquire Greenland?

 

[Lockback]

Three answers:

1) we have the right to "think about" anything we want to think about.

2) The doctrine of Manifest Destiny applies to Greenland. Without Manifest destiny, the U.S. would still be thirteen states, with Europe in charge of the remainder of North America.

3) Was Harry Truman also Adolph Hitler for wanting to acquire Greenland?

You, sir, are brilliant.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You said it! We have tried to get Greenland since 1867 and so far we haven’t, and it has not hurt us at all. China has been in this world longer than we have, and they too have had many chances at doing so, but haven’t either. Last but not least, there has been no threats to do so now, so we have no clear reason to do it now either, other than Trump’s ego!!!

Actually, the US did take control of Greenland. FDR invoked the Monroe Doctrine when the US entered WWII because Greenland was so obviously a vulnerability to our defenses - but to you it must seem this was just an example of FDR's giant ego.

 

[Dr Grump]

Three answers:

1) we have the right to "think about" anything we want to think about.

2) The doctrine of Manifest Destiny applies to Greenland. Without Manifest destiny, the U.S. would still be thirteen states, with Europe in charge of the remainder of North America. Then how would we have been able to save Europe over and over?

3) Was Harry Truman also Adolph Hitler for wanting to acquire Greenland?

1) Yeah, American arrogance at its finest. The Ugly American. And the reason I say that is, to me, America has always set itself as the standard. You guys are always bleating on about how you are the greatest country in the world (it's not) due to the way the country is set up (again, it's a shitty system IMO). That includes the freedoms it affords. Yet, that very sentence you have just written lets us know how a lot of you truly feel. Dictatorial tendencies. You're right, you have every right to think like that. I have every right to call you out on it.
2) Meh, as I said, you have nukes. If that isn't going to protect you, nothing is.
3) No, but he wasn't ranting and raving like the current loon in the WH is. He also respected the sovereignty of an ally.

 

[Dr Grump]

You say you think the word nazi is used too oftern, and yet the only thing you have to say in your post is that Trumps looks just like a nazi to you.

hmmmm

**** me. Well done. He does. Absolutely. From weaponising the FBI and justice dept, to sending out the cowardly masked ICE agents, to trying to cancel Jimmy Kimmel, to going after the prosecutor who (rightly) got him convicted, to this business with Greenland. Tell me which part ISN'T Nazi-like behaviour. Take your time.

 

[Dr Grump]

Greenland is in our back yard and because of libs who hate mining inside of our borders we are dependant on China for rare earth minerals that we need for clean renewable energy.... AI... and new medical procedures to cure diseases like cancer and heart disease...
Greenland is a rare earth gold mine... and this is why China wants it and doesn't want us to have it....

Well put forward a trading case that makes them want to work with the US. And who says they don't want to work with the US. I've seen nothing on that at all. You?

What do you mean mining inside your borders. You have no rare earths. We do (I live in Australia). Last time I looked we were allies. You gonna invade us as well?

AI
Australia possesses significant rare earth mineral (REM) resources, estimated at around 5.7 million metric tonnes (Mt), ranking it fourth globally in reserves, according to data from Geoscience Australia and the USGS as cited by various sources in late 2024/early 2025.

 

[Dr Grump]

Well, don't be surprised if it's happens. ******* Danes had a program of forced sterilization of the Greenland natives for decades.

So did the US in several states when it came to those with disabilities. Let them without sin...etc

 

[Muhammed]

You have NEVER proven anything. Until you do, you are simply a con artist. Posts like this, where you attack the messenger, prove it, over and over again!

Dude, the Earth is not flat like your map.