The 600 lbs. gorilla in the room when it comes to Greenland

[leftwinger]

Do we even have $100MM in gold in Fort Knox?

I'm waiting on the video tour.

 

[leftwinger]

I researched Trump, clear back to his childhood, cuz' I so desperately wanted him to be who he claimed to be & have done, when he first ran for the Republican Ticket.

What I Learned about Trump Shocked & Deeply Angered me, because he utterly lied, about most of his accomplishments, as well as his "Christian Beliefs" . Trump is a Highly Experienced, Horribly Narcisstic, Professional Con-man, LIar, Whore-monger, & much more. So, as a Strong Conservative, I refused to Vote for Trump. What harm, I expected Trump to do to America when he was 1st POTUS, he far exceeded that his first time, & now, he is showing that he has No Restraints.

No Trump is not "Hitler", but his disregard for America's Constitution, Heritage, as well as Federal, & State Laws, does have some comparison to what Hitler did as he rose to power.

Offering to buy Greenland, even offer it Statehood is one thing,.. Threatening Greenland with Military Force if it refuses Trump's offers, is Satanically Inspired Bullshit. Trump is going to end up enraging what few Allies America truly has, & when the time comes that America truly needs them,... They'll either remain Neutral, or possibly join with Our Enemies. Keep in mind DE Gaulle kicked America out of France when JFK refused to invade Cuba.

America, already has bases in Greenland, & Military Ties with Greenland/Denmark could be strengthened if Common Sense, Intelligence, & Respect for an Existing Ally were employed, but,..... With Trump, that would be a Miracle worthy of the Catholic Church's Attention if that were to happen.

And, as far as Greemland's Natural Resources,,... They belong to Greenland!

Trump, & The Republican Party needs to Offer to Develop, & then Buy them, Trade something for them but,.... When Military Force is Hinted at/Threatened,....... Then that "Hitler Thingy" pops up again!

"And it is the very same reason that Trump did what he did in Venezuela, stopping the Chinese from taking most of their oil."

Soooo,.... It was All about the Oil, not being taken by the Chinese then. I admit, I've been somewhat puzzled how Venezuelan "Narco-terrorists" managed to get their boats out into the Eastern Pacific when Venezuela has No Coastline with the Pacific Ocean, but that was only One Objection that I had about this ongoing, & escalating Madness. Since America's Coastguard under the TRump Admin., appearred to be incapable of stoppinbg Drug Runners in Our Waters,..... Why didn't Trump deploy American Forces to Assist them? That way, if the Alleged Drug Boats opened fire on Our Forces, In Our Waters, then America would have every right to destroy those boats! And, if they just surrenedered,.... Trump would've been able to "Make Points" with "Th' Sheeple", by showing the seized drugs, & "Narco-terrorists" on American Media.

But Blowing up alleged Drug Boats, in International Waters, with No Evidence presented to America, nor the World, strongly resembles what caused the "War of 1812", with England, and again,..... that "Hitler Thingy".

So now it's "Stopping China from getting the Oil"?!?

Isn't that Interfering in another Nation's Business? Matter of fact,.... By Seizing Maduro, & now stating that America will be running Venezuela, isn't that also "Regime Change", that Trump once promised to stop?!?
"the same reason Putin took the Ukraine."

When Trump stated "I Can End the War in One Day",... I Applauded him! I Thought FINALLY Trump is going to become a True Conservative American President, and End a War that Obama, McCain, Graham, their Political Allies, as well as their Foreign Allies started. But, that was just another Lie told by Trump!
"Europe has allowed the US over the years to spend trillions and trillions of dollars on their military to keep Europe safe and free from Communist Russia, while they themselves spend their money on social programs instead of the endeavor to defend themselves. This has led to massive debt in the US, debt that Europe could care less about as they continue to insist that the US protects them"

I'd like to see the Data on that Votto,..... I was under the impression that Europe bought the Weapons from America.
But, I do agree, Europe has been more concerned about Socialism, & Welcoming in the Muslims, that jointly working with America towards a European Defense.

"Besides, Orange Man bad."............. I Absolutely Agree, and I'll add to that, the Vast majority of Republicans', as well as the Democrats,
"but to pretend Trump is this off the wall insane dictator"

He's heading that way, unless he realizes the Error of His Ways, or His Party stands up to him.

Commonsense, Our Laws, Our Heritage , & A Belief in The Almighty LORD GOD, must Return, & Prevail, otherwise, we're heading down a path that either the Republicans, or the Democrats could use to Destroy America.

Take your TDS medication loon. You had your 12 years Obiden ravaging the country and treasury.

Clean up the fraud. Then you can chirp TDS TDS orange man bad.

 

[my2¢]

Trump is no different than President Harry Truman offering Denmark a $100 million in gold to buy Greenland.

The difference is maturity. Trumps acts like a big baby and goes into a hissy fit when things don't go his way.

Here is the adult mindset result of Harry Truman's effort: North Atlantic Treaty.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

"Further ratcheting up tensions over the issue, Trump additionally said he no longer felt “an obligation to think purely of peace” with regard to Greenland, according to a letter he penned to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Store and obtained by Bloomberg. The president went on to blame the Nordic state for failing to award him with a Nobel Peace Prize, adding that “The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.”

After Trump vowed to impose a 10% tariff on eight European states opposed to any US takeover of Greenland – the UK, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the Netherlands, and Finland – the nations in question deployed a small contingent of troops to the Danish-controlled territory for a round of military drills. On Monday, Copenhagen reportedly sent additional forces to Greenland, with around 100 stationed in the capital city of Nuuk and a similar number deployed to Kangerlussuaq, a town not far from Greenland’s west coast.

The US president has insisted that Greenland is vital to American national security, claiming without evidence that Russia and China also seek to control the territory. He has also argued US control of the country is needed for the proposed “Golden Dome” missile defense shield."

Trump Refuses To Rule Out Military Option for Greenland - News From Antiwar.com

President Donald Trump declined to rule out the use of force to take control of Greenland, soon after several European allies dispatched troops to the territory in an apparent warning to Washington. Asked by NBC News whether he would use military force to seize Greenland during a brief interview on…

news.antiwar.com

 

[leftwinger]

The difference is maturity. Trumps acts like a big baby and goes into a hissy fit when things don't go his way.

Here is the adult mindset result of Harry Truman's effort: North Atlantic Treaty.

More nonsense. 12 yrs Obiden destroyed the vote, nearly bankrupted , the country. Every big blue city is destroyed, releasing criminals, locking up citizens.

We need RESULTS (Trumps a doer, yes things happen) not your petty chirping over style. SHUP with your non-stop TDS you big phony marshmellowed Leftist in drag!!!

 

[Godboy]

only problem I have with it is the people in his administration making noises about using military force to take it over.

If he threatens to use military force, but in the end he only uses financial and diplomatic pressures to get his way, it wont seem extreme at all. It will soften the blow, so to speak.

 

[Zincwarrior]

If the EU quits buying our debt we are boned.

https://www.axios.com/2026/01/20/trump-greenland-davos-von-der-leyen

EU chief warns there's no going back after Trump's Greenland threats​

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen speaks at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 20, 2026. Photo: Krisztian Bocsi/Bloomberg via Getty Images

DAVOS, Switzerland — The European Union's chief executive called for "permanent" independence from the U.S. on Tuesday, framing President Trump's hostility toward allies as a rupture on the scale of the 1971 "Nixon shock."

Why it matters: Ursula von der Leyen's remarks reflect the deep unease hanging over the World Economic Forum, where Trump arrives Wednesday amid an escalating crisis in transatlantic relations.

• Trump's fixation on taking control of Greenland — and his threats to impose tariffs on allies who oppose the move — have jolted European leaders and become the dominant undercurrent of the Davos summit.
• Overnight, Trump further inflamed tensions by posting alleged private messages from NATO chief Mark Rutte and French President Emmanuel Macron on Truth Social.

 

[Marener]

If he threatens to use military force, but in the end he only uses financial and diplomatic pressures to get his way, it wont seem extreme at all. It will soften the blow, so to speak.

I don’t think there’s any real moral difference in taking something by force and taking it with the threat of force.

 

[Godboy]

"Further ratcheting up tensions over the issue, Trump additionally said he no longer felt “an obligation to think purely of peace” with regard to Greenland, according to a letter he penned to Norwegian Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Store and obtained by Bloomberg. The president went on to blame the Nordic state for failing to award him with a Nobel Peace Prize, adding that “The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.”

Yeah, thats straight up crazy talk. What kind of madman would invade a nation over not getting a peace prize? Democrats will 100% believe that Trump is that crazy. Thats a great position to be in for someone who is bluffing.

The people of Greenland will be offered hundreds of thousands of dollars each. If they believe Trump is crazy enough to attack and take it for free, which way do you think they will vote? Take the money or be invaded... hmmm. Its not exactly a tough choice.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I don’t think there’s any real moral difference in taking something by force and taking it with the threat of force.

Its the legal definition of assault: threat of immediate harm or offensive touching.

 

[Marener]

Its the legal definition of assault: threat of immediate harm or offensive touching.

The next excuse would be “we aren’t taking it because we want to buy it”, which is still morally unjustifiable.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

More nonsense. 12 yrs Obiden destroyed and nearly bankrupted the vote, the country. Every big blue city is destroyed, releasing criminals, locking up citizens.

We need RESULTS (Trumpis a doer, yes things happen) not your petty chirping over style. SHUP with your non-stop TDS you big phony marshmellowed Leftist in drag!!!

Biden was POTUS only 4 years

 

[leftwinger]

Biden was POTUS only 4 years

Stupid OX. He was the auto pen
It has been systematic destruction since 08' (he was VP) hence Obiden. But you knew thst you trolling Marxist stooge. $29T since lost stolen wasted since. Country nearly destroyed. The vote is rigged in 21 states. All big cities with commeee GOVT..

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

I'm a Strong "America First!" Conservative, but not a Republican, & certainly not a Democrat.

But if Trump is not quickly brought to his senses,...... He will cause America to be Isolated, by both it's Allies, & Enemies, which will lead to America collapsing as a Super Power.

And, if the Democrats are allowed to have a Free Hand in what they want, they also will cause the Fall of America.

 

[Godboy]

I'm a Strong "America First!" Conservative, but not a Republican, & certainly not a Democrat.

But if Trump is not quickly brought to his senses,...... He will cause America to be Isolated, by both it's Allies, & Enemies, which will lead to America collapsing as a Super Power.

And, if the Democrats are allowed to have a Free Hand in what they want, they also will cause the Fall of America.

The moment Trump leaves office, the TDS will go away. Some loony democrat will get elected as president, and they will apologize and beg for forgiveness and the lefty Europeans will gobble that shit up. Meanwhile our nation will reap the rewards from everything Trump did.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Stupid OX. He was the auto pen
It was systematic destruction since 08' he was VP hence Obiden. But you knew thst you trolling Marxist stooge. $29T since lost stolen wasted. Country nearly destroyed. The vote is rigged in 21 states. All big cities with commeee admin.

Read,... If You're capable, My Profile, & then decide if I'm a "trolling Marxist stooge" w.

And if Your "Liberal Education" has only taught You that the Destruction of America has been ongoing only since the Kenyan Imposter's & Biden's Admininistrations.,............ Then You've been Royally Cheated out of an Honest Education.

 

[leftwinger]

Read,... If You're capable, My Profile, & then decide if I'm a "trolling Marxist stooge" w.

And if Your "Liberal Education" has only taught You that the Destruction of America has been ongoing only since the Kenyan Imposter's & Biden's Admininistrations.,............ Then You've been Royally Cheated out of an Honest Education.

Trump policy improves the overall situation. Get on board or get out. It was Trump right now or 4-8 more yrs of Obiden using the cackling dummy. The GOVT is nearly destroyed. Congress is useless. Trump is all we have. I wont nitpick or flare up TDS. I survived Obiden 1.0 barely. Trump 2016 - 2019 saved me. Then the Marxist launched flu, stole the vote. They don't let up. Leave Trump alone to try and save the nation. Every little thing cant be dragged out under the microscope. I don't care if he makes mistakes. The good outweighs the bad.

Fork Europe. They have mo energy, tens of millions imported criminal dependents roaming raping and killing. Like our big cities have black brown killers roaming around. I've No time fot this!

 

[my2¢]

More nonsense. 12 yrs Obiden destroyed the vote, nearly bankrupted , the country. Every big blue city is destroyed, releasing criminals, locking up citizens.

We need RESULTS (Trumps a doer, yes things happen) not your petty chirping over style. SHUP with your non-stop TDS you big phony marshmellowed Leftist in drag!!!

While I didn't vote for Obama, one would have to blind not to see that the U.S. was in far better shape in 2012 than the way GW Bush left it in 2008, but perhaps you loved GWB for initiating all those resources of ours going to the Islams. Still, I voted for Romney because as a rule 2nd terms don't work out well for presidents. Yeah, Biden was a disaster but getting back to the subject brought up in the OP that compared Trump and Truman over the issue of Greenland which neither Obama nor Biden dealt with, so why bring it up?

Clearly Truman acted in an adult fashion on the matter while Trump as is his usual way, is acting like a big baby.

 

[leftwinger]

While I didn't vote for Obama, one would have to blind not to see that the U.S. was in far better shape in 2012 than the way GW Bush left it in 2008, but perhaps you loved GWB for initiating all those resources of ours going to the Islams. Still, I voted for Romney because as a rule 2nd terms don't work out well for presidents. Yeah, Biden was a disaster but getting back to the subject brought up in the OP that compared Trump and Truman over the issue of Greenland which neither Obama nor Biden dealt with, so why bring it up?

Clearly Truman acted in an adult fashion on the matter while Trump as is his usual way, is acting like a big baby

U.S. was in far better shape in 2012 than the way GW Bush left it in 2008

Are you an adult? Uniparty Congress allowed (caused) the financial collapse to bring in unknown no-show Obama. GWB did not set finance law.

$1.6T per year over-spending, raiding USA treasure began. GOVT stocked with 1000 marxist per day. Making 2017-2019 hard on Trump
Then they launched flu, stole 2020

Truman over the issue of Greenland which

Yeah well Truman didn't win Greenland evidently. I am not going to nitpick every Trump issue and sniper at him like TDS vermin. He is on the inside, knows far more what is going on than I do. Maybe we need it? Not enough people there for me to worry about it? We got a country to save. Get on board or get out.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We bought Louisiana, Alaska and parts of the South west, right?