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Exactly, which is why we need stricter legislation and possibly ban the ownership of certain weapons.

Yes, restrictions and bans do not stop criminals from obtaining guns, but they very obviously work. Just look at Canada and compare how many mass shootings they have compared to the US. It's not coincidental.
 

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You're claim is absurd and you know it. You know those stats are debatable and likely not able to be gathered.
How do they tell how many lives are saved. It's just nonsense.
By the way, the stats are NOT from the CDC.
 
You're claim is absurd and you know it. You know those stats are debatable and likely not able to be gathered.
How do they tell how many lives are saved. It's just nonsense.
By the way, the stats are NOT from the CDC.

Defensive Gun Use​

In “Defensive Gun Use is More Than Shooting Bad Guys,” James Agresti, founder and president of JustFacts, provided overwhelming evidence from multiple sources showing that defensive gun use is more common and effective than anti-gun fanatics like The New York Times suggest or will admit. Agresti says that “people who use a gun for defense rarely harm (much less kill) criminals. This is because criminals often back off when they discover their targets are armed.”

John Lott, author of the book, “More Guns, Less Crime,” is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, another outstanding source for info on this subject. He writes:

By 66 percent to 32 percent, economists and criminologists answer that gun-free zones are “more likely to attract criminals than they are to deter them.” A 60 percent to 40 percent margin thinks that guns in the home do not increase suicides. And a 62 percent to 35 percent spread says that guns are used in self-defense to stop crime more often than in the commission of crime.

 

Defensive Gun Use​

In “Defensive Gun Use is More Than Shooting Bad Guys,” James Agresti, founder and president of JustFacts, provided overwhelming evidence from multiple sources showing that defensive gun use is more common and effective than anti-gun fanatics like The New York Times suggest or will admit. Agresti says that “people who use a gun for defense rarely harm (much less kill) criminals. This is because criminals often back off when they discover their targets are armed.”

John Lott, author of the book, “More Guns, Less Crime,” is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, another outstanding source for info on this subject. He writes:




All of that is guesswork. And the CDC did not publish the stats you claim they did
 
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I don't assume it's half. I assume it's a rare thing.
We do know, however, that children sometimes gain access to their parents' guns causing horrifying accidents. Or men like those in this thread taking their parents' legal guns to commit mass murder.
 
We do know, however, that children sometimes gain access to their parents' guns causing horrifying accidents. Or men like those in this thread taking their parents' legal guns to commit mass murder.
Yes.
The rare thing I mentioned was lives being saved by a gun owner.
 
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