Is democracy good?

[Votto]

OK, so you attribute this action by the shooter upon me?

To be honest, the shooter does not really concern me. What concerns me are the political forces out there that prompted it, calling their political opponents Hitler until the mentally deranged acted upon their accusations. But then came the reaction of the Left, which was countless posts on social media celebrating the assassination like a bunch of crazed, hateful, lunatics as they danced in the streets and defiled his memorials all across the country.

This is the mainstream of the Democrat party now. It is the same party that has 1/3 of its members polled say that they wished Trump had been assassinated and it is the same group that celebrated the health care CEO in NYC being assassinated as they poured money for a legal defense and marriage proposals to the accused assassin.

It is the party of Che, the Cuban assassin of Castro, which is why they tried to tell us who they were long ago as they wore his T shirts pridefully. It is why they tried to assassinate the entire GOP Congress as a charity baseball game in Virginia, and why they also tried to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh at his home. They won't stop targeting anyone and everyone like this that opposes them politically.

And no, such political violence is not a two-way street with both parties, it's just your own party. And if you try mentioning January 6th, just know that only one person was shot dead, and that was an unarmed women who was a protester.

 

[Hafar1014]

A pure direct democracy is considered an idealistic political system but in practice it's not. Here's a good example: Democratic People's Republic of Korea. It sure sounds nice and friendly, but it's not. It's North Korea. Korean Communists convinced its people that if they voted for them, the government would not only take care of them, but that they would have meat and rice twice a day. The people jumped on it and what they got was an authoritarian, tyrannical government that killed and starved millions. Every aspect of their lives is ruled by the government, via the gun. Every election, their fearless leader (the only allowed candidate) gets 100% of the vote and in the extremely rare instance that someone actually writes in a different person, that voter is rounded up and "disappeared."
Theocracies are no better. Take Iran's Islamic government for example. The Islamic Mullahs put forth the names of candidates, the Ayatollah looks over the candidates and eliminates all but the two he considers acceptable and they are put on the ballot for the people to choose from. Under Islam, women are considered second class citizens and even less in some of the Islamic nations.
A Constitutional Republic that is Capitalistic is the best way to go. You end up with a sizeable middle-class, innovation and stability (unless you get destabilizing elements within it, like Communism, Socialism, or Theocracies).

Democracy means rule by the stupid as the average IQ is 100. When you have federation of separate states you must have the EC and senate to prevent large populations form dominating elections

 

[Votto]

Democracy means rule by the stupid as the average IQ is 100. When you have federation of separate states you must have the EC and senate to prevent large populations form dominating elections

But the dirty little secret is that the stupid average person does not rule at all.

The people that rule are the ones that propagandize to the average voter to manipulate their votes. This is why the Left dominates the media and academia. Find any peer reviewed journal article on how the Left dominates both academia and the media as proof of what I'm talking about.

This is why the biggest proponents of democracy are those already in control of the giant propaganda mills for the Left.

 

[Hafar1014]

But the dirty little secret is that the stupid average person does not rule at all.

The people that rule are the ones that propagandize to the average voter to manipulate their votes. This is why the Left dominates the media and academia. Find any peer reviewed journal article on how the Left dominates both academia and the media as proof of what I'm talking about.

This is why the biggest proponents of democracy are those already in control of the giant propaganda mills for the Left.

They have taken a serious hit as they couldnt get Harris elected. Ratings are dropping fast

 

[Votto]

They have taken a serious hit as they couldnt get Harris elected. Ratings are dropping fast

I just don't buy that they are dead in the water, especially after this last election as well as polling that suggests that the DNC will route the GOP in the midterms.

Think of it, even though Trump is President, academia continues their DEI programs and gender cult education, etc. Perhaps the biggest threat to these propaganda machines was Charlie Kirk, as he physically went to education centers to reach those who have never heard of his type of perspectives on religion and politics, other then people making strawmen arguments about people like him as they called them Nazis.

That is why Charlie had to die.

 

[Hafar1014]

I just don't buy that they are dead in the water, especially after this last election as well as polling that suggests that the DNC will route the GOP in the midterms.

Think of it, even though Trump is President, academia continues their DEI programs and gender cult education, etc. Perhaps the biggest threat to these propaganda machines was Charlie Kirk, as he physically went to education centers to reach those who have never heard of his type of perspectives on religion and politics, other then people making strawmen arguments about people like him as they called them Nazis.

That is why Charlie had to die.

Kirk went after the universities that are the indoctrination mills for socialism and he a created huge following. His death increased his popularity. Now we are seeing a return to conservative values by the youth.

 

[Votto]

Kirk went after the universities that are the indoctrination mills for socialism and he a created huge following. His death increased his popularity. Now we are seeing a return to conservative values by the youth.

We shall see how the post Kirk political spectrum shapes out,

But we all know what will happen if the DNC takes Congress. It will be a real shit show of nonstop impeachments for 2 straight years as the country will grind to a halt until one of their loons can take the Oval Office and dismantle what is left of the Constitution and create a one-party state like we have seen in democrat-controlled states like New York and California. Those states have a lot of conservatives as well, but their voices will never be heard thanks to tactics like redistricting. Trump simply told Red states you better do the same of the DNC will eventually take power and do it for you as your state is toast.

 

[berg80]

To be honest, the shooter does not really concern me. What concerns me are the political forces out there that prompted it, calling their political opponents Hitler until the mentally deranged acted upon their accusations. But then came the reaction of the Left, which was countless posts on social media celebrating the assassination like a bunch of crazed, hateful, lunatics as they danced in the streets and defiled his memorials all across the country.

That's not honesty. It's one-sided, self righteous, horseshit. Here's why.

Dotard's offspring put up that post. It was followed by this.

User Clip: Trump Mocks Paul Pelosi Attack

Trump Mocks Paul Pelosi Attack

www.c-span.org

And this.

Arizona GOP nominee Kari Lake mocks attack on Paul Pelosi at campaign event​

Arizona GOP nominee Kari Lake mocks attack on Paul Pelosi at campaign event

The remark by the candidate for governor drew laughter from the crowd. The House speaker’s husband remains in intensive care.

www.nbcnews.com

An honest remark would look like this. "To be honest, the shooter does not really concern me. What concerns me are the political forces out there that prompted it, dehumanizing political opponents by both sides until the mentally deranged acted upon their accusations."

 

[OODA_Loop]

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Dotard's offspring put up that post. It was followed by this.

Hilarious post by DJr

 

[sparky]

So the term "democracy", when used in normal discussion by normal people, can certainly be interpreted as "republic" in context.

democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting for din din Mac......~S~

 

[dblack]

When conservatives constantly tell you for decades that they want a fascist, police state because they hate democracy; at what point do you stop convincing yourself they're not serious?

Maybe stop trying to shove democracy down their throats?

Democracy only works when it's limited and used sparingly. If you insist on making every social decision "democratic", you're just going to have a lot people pissed off and spoiling for a fight.

 

[berg80]

Hilarious post by DJr

Mocking a skull fracture inflicted on a 82 year old man made you laugh? That's odd.

 

[Mac-7]

When conservatives constantly tell you for decades that they want a fascist, police state because they hate democracy; at what point do you stop convincing yourself they're not serious?

Were you not listening to Charlie Kirk?

Kirk correctly defines democracy as mob rule

Conservatives do not believe in that

 

[OODA_Loop]

Mocking a skull fracture inflicted on a 82 year old man made you laugh? That's odd.

Ha nice try to climb on that highroad any chance you can get.

 

[Correll]

OK, so you attribute this action by the shooter upon me?

You asked a "question" and when he answered it, you ignored the actual answer and pivoted to a strawman attack.


That was vile of you. And it buried the point of his answer.


CHARLIE KIRK died as a martyr to freedom and America.

That is a very, very valid reason to view him as a HERO.

That you did not have the moral courage to admit that, is your failure as a human being.

 

[berg80]

Ha nice try to climb on that highroad any chance you can get.

I'm sure any road looks like the high one from the gutter in which you lie.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I'm sure any road looks like the high one from the gutter in which you lie.

Like the gutter of inviting homosexual street urchins to have gay sex in your home which you share with your married spouse?

 

[berg80]

CHARLIE KIRK died as a martyr to freedom and America.

That is an opinion not everyone shares. I'm with David Corn.

No, Charlie Kirk was not practicing politics the right way

His assassination deserves full condemnation; his full impact should not be sidestepped.

www.motherjones.com

 

[berg80]

Like the gutter of inviting homosexual street urchins to have gay sex in your home which you share with your married spouse?

My mistake. I had you confused with someone who is attached to reality.

 

[Correll]

That is an opinion not everyone shares. I'm with David Corn.

No, Charlie Kirk was not practicing politics the right way

His assassination deserves full condemnation; his full impact should not be sidestepped.

www.motherjones.com

The guy was speaking out in favor of free speech and civil political discourse and your side murdered him in the street.


He is certainly an American Hero.