Is "Climate Change" The Biggest Hoax Ever Perpetrated Against The American People?

[westwall]

What models do you believe "defy physics"?

Climatology models.

 

[Crick]

Climatology models.

CMIP models? CMIP4? CMIP 5? CMIP6? And how do they defy physics?

 

[jc456]

CMIP models? CMIP4? CMIP 5? CMIP6? And how do they defy physics?

I found this

Why Climate Models Fail - The Resilience Post

Some scientists have questioned the accuracy and validity of some climate models

resiliencepost.com

 

[Crick]

I found this

Why Climate Models Fail - The Resilience Post

Some scientists have questioned the accuracy and validity of some climate models

resiliencepost.com

That would tend to indicate that models have been underestimating climate change and global warming

 

[westwall]

CMIP models? CMIP4? CMIP 5? CMIP6? And how do they defy physics?

They ignore water vapor for the most part. That is the single biggest driver of climate. Why do they do this?

Because they don't understand how water vapor functions for the most part. And, other than "simple models" the climatological community isn't capable of creating a complex model.

Simple models are useless in dealing with climate because they ignore physics to get the results that they WANT.

 

[jc456]

That would tend to indicate that models have been underestimating climate change and global warming

or over estimating it. They fail

 

[westwall]

That would tend to indicate that models have been underestimating climate change and global warming

Only they haven't. They have been grossly overestimating. We have ample evidence of that.

 

[Fueri]

We'll see, but the pigs at the WEF have already overtly said that, due to the compliance seen with covid restrictions, that they think they can now push personal carbon data tracking and other nonsense, which has previously failed.

We'll see a rollout of that shit shortly, in all likelihood. And it will make the right people rich and everyone else will get fucked, just like what happened with globalization- the rich got richer, everyone else got fucked.

They'll use the climate agenda as a trojan horse to push the next wave of scams on the population, tell everyone that they're just doing their part- and screw everyone but themselves in the process.

 

[EMH]

The Co2 FRAUD uses "models" because reality shows precisely


NO WARMING in the atmosphere
NO WARMING in the oceans
NO net ice melt
NO breakout in Canes
NO explanation as to how Co2 melted NA and froze Greenland at the same time

 

[Crick]

They ignore water vapor for the most part. That is the single biggest driver of climate. Why do they do this?

Because they don't understand how water vapor functions for the most part. And, other than "simple models" the climatological community isn't capable of creating a complex model.

Simple models are useless in dealing with climate because they ignore physics to get the results that they WANT.

What makes you think they ignore water vapor?

The terms vapor, vapors, evaporative, evaporation appear 391 times in "Annex II: Models" of the Physical Science Basis. Dozens and dozens of models are explicitly described as taking water vapor, evaporation and latent heat of evaporation into account.

I ask again, where did you get the idea that models ignored water vapor?

 

[EMH]

What makes you think they ignore water vapor?

The terms vapor, vapors, evaporative, evaporation appear 391 times in "Annex II: Models" of the Physical Science Basis. Dozens and dozens of models are explicitly described as taking water vapor, evaporation and latent heat of evaporation into account.

I ask again, where did you get the idea that models ignored water vapor?

In theory, rapid record warming in the oceans should result in bigger and more frequent canes.

That is NOT HAPPENING...

Which leads to the speculation that your claim of ocean warming is

100% pure taxpayer funded FUDGE

 

[westwall]

What makes you think they ignore water vapor?

The terms vapor, vapors, evaporative, evaporation appear 391 times in "Annex II: Models" of the Physical Science Basis. Dozens and dozens of models are explicitly described as taking water vapor, evaporation and latent heat of evaporation into account.

I ask again, where did you get the idea that models ignored water vapor?

Yeah, they mention it. But don't model it to any extent. The atmosphere is the most complex engine the world has ever seen. You think a "simple" computer model is going to be able to give any insight at all?

Get real.

 

[boedicca]

The biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the American Public is the Combo of the Federal Reserve-Income Tax-Direct Election of Senators.

 

[Crick]

How about that hoax that American elections have ever been affected by voter fraud?

 

[ding]

Yes

 

[ReinyDays]

Climatology models.

What part of Stefan-Boltzmann's derivation is wrong? ... or do you think Planck's Radiation Law is wrong? ...

There are human failings with the interpretations ... but the model itself is robust over a rather wide range of conditions ... from vacuums to supernovae ... the computer simulations created with this model have all the normal failings of statistics ... why climatologists have to study statistics ... so they know what the failings are ...

If the public doesn't know these failings, then it is the public's fault they'b=ve been decieved ..vxtuym ... just look at Chick to see how easy the general public swallows big loads of jizzum ...



[kittens are awake] ...

 

[westwall]

What part of Stefan-Boltzmann's derivation is wrong? ... or do you think Planck's Radiation Law is wrong? ...

There are human failings with the interpretations ... but the model itself is robust over a rather wide range of conditions ... from vacuums to supernovae ... the computer simulations created with this model have all the normal failings of statistics ... why climatologists have to study statistics ... so they know what the failings are ...

If the public doesn't know these failings, then it is the public's fault they'b=ve been decieved ..vxtuym



[kittens are awake] ...

Physical laws are not wrong.

Climate models ARE.

 

[ReinyDays]

Physical laws are not wrong.

Climate models ARE.

What's wrong with the distribution curves? ... evil can be done with these distribution curves, but the distribution curves themselves are statistics ... "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" ...

 

[westwall]

What's wrong with the distribution curves? ... evil can be done with these distribution curves, but the distribution curves themselves are statistics ... "statistics don't lie, but liars use statistics" ...

Until a climate model can do a handcart of one day they are useless.

Statistics are useless when the models that are using them are inherently flawed.

As ALL climate models are.

It has been proven that no matter what numbers you enter into the model the result is ALWAYS warming.

Numerous Journals have published papers on this.

 

[Crick]

Until a climate model can do a handcart of one day they are useless.

Statistics are useless when the models that are using them are inherently flawed.

As ALL climate models are.

It has been proven that no matter what numbers you enter into the model the result is ALWAYS warming.

Numerous Journals have published papers on this.

Numerous journals? Then there should be no problem publishing a few links.