Zone1 Is Atheism Depressing?

[ding]

Ding, nobody wants to hear you whine.

Spinoza said mockery proclaims the imperfection of the mocker and that it is a form of hatred and sadness which can never be converted into joy.

 

[ding]

Yes, to faithers like you, all new information affirms their beliefs.

It's a luxury that normal, rational peole do not enjoy.

You have no joy in your life and that's why you behave as you do.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Spinoza said mockery proclaims the imperfection of the mocker and that it is a form of hatred and sadness which can never be converted into joy.

 Then stop mocking people forever and shut the fuck up. Why do I give a shit what embroidered pillows you have on your couch?

it's very simple.

 

[ding]

Ding, you're not annoying me. You're just embarrassing yourself as weak and whiny.

Your form of hatred will never be converted into joy.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You have no joy in your life and that's why you behave as you do.

Oh my. I think I broke ding again.

Poor little guy. You always End up degenerating into this little amorphous blob of crybaby, every time you post with me.

I think I'll step away and let you catch your breath and get your wits about you.

Time to get showered and dressed up for the Suaree tonight. I'll think of you while accepting my award for helping people. Funny... the local churches were too busy installing new LED signs and parking lots to fill the void.

 

[ding]

 Then stop mocking people forever and shut the fuck up. Why do I give a shit what embroidered pillows you have on your couch?

it's very simple.

It's easy to see that you don't give a shit about what embroidered pillows I have on my couch. You don't mock me for it.

But that's not true for my belief in a higher power than man. You do give a shit about that and it drives you nuts. So much so that you condemn respect for people of faith and mock them.

Your hatred and mockery will never bring you joy.

 

[ding]

Oh my. I think I broke ding again.

Poor little guy. You always End up degenerating into this little amorphous blob of crybaby, every time you post with me.

I think I'll step away and let you catch your breath and get your wits about you.

Happy people don't behave like you do.

 

[Thunderbird]

*to you, because of your bias

To me, it increases my wonder and joy in this life. I enjoy what life has to offer, instead of loooking at the only life i will ever have as some sort of inconvient placeholder while in line for the magical forever festival.

I would think the terror that you or your loved ones’ lives could end forever at any moment would spoil that joy.

Why should human joy be part of a random universe without meaning?

 

[BreezeWood]

Says who?

jesus was a big fan and taught the spoken religion of antiquity ... passed down from that time to the present day.

some people would spite their nose than see their face.

 

[ding]

some people would spite their nose than see their face.

Why can't you tell me where you got your ideas from? Are you making them up? Are you claiming to be a prophet?

 

[BreezeWood]

Why can't you tell me where you got your ideas from? Are you making them up? Are you claiming to be a prophet?

jesus was a big fan and taught the spoken religion of antiquity ... passed down from that time to the present day.

- some people would spite their nose than see their face. is the mirror not your friend ...

 

[ding]

- some people would spite their nose than see their face. is the mirror not your friend ...

Seriously, why can't you tell me where you got your ideas from?

 

[BreezeWood]

Seriously, why can't you tell me where you got your ideas from?

... passed down from that time to the present day.

the truth, the 1st century events the repudiation of judaism, false commandments, hereditary idolatry -

do try and keep up.

 

[ding]

the truth, the 1st century events the repudiation of judaism, false commandments, hereditary idolatry -

do try and keep up.

Says who? Your secret church?

 

[Thunderbird]

Which would be prized more?

A random mess of a universe without meaning or a beautiful universe created by a beneficent God?

 

[BreezeWood]

Which would be prized more?

A random mess of a universe without meaning or a beautiful universe created by a beneficent God?

the metaphysical forces of the universe -

as sadly our neck of the woods is anything but a beautiful universe - beyond our own atmosphere.

 

[forkup]

You don’t seem to understand the arguments presented in the videos.

“Christians believe that God is always at work in the natural world, in the gaps as well as in the areas that science can explain.”

Are Gaps in Scientific Knowledge Evidence for God? - BioLogos

The God of the Bible is much more than a god of the gaps. God is always at work in the natural world, in the gaps as well as the areas that science can explain.

biologos.org

What lies were told about non-theist mathematicians?

What are these non-God hypotheses you speak of that explain the fact that the universe is governed by equations many scientists have described as beautiful.

We could be living in a universe where every other Tuesday an ugly set of equations was in force but only in parts of Wisconsin. And the universe could be even more radically disordered.

When did the video “assume that because the universe here exists now; as it is, that that's the only possible way a universe can be”?

What lies were told about non-theist mathematicians?

That they claim that math working out in the universe is "coincidental." They don't, as is shown by the hypothesis I linked. It's a strawman. Just like it's a strawman that a religious mathematician will say the reason is God. Most, simply won't make those kinds of judgements.


This is the problem with something on YouTube. Since it's NOT a scientific journal and almost all of them is just content creators giving their opinion.

People who don't really care or know how to distinguish between a well thought out scientific argument and some guy spouting his opinion into the void of the internet using selective quotes, and language and some slick video-editing will be fooled.

Just a tip. As a rule, someone who frames an argument generalizing entire groups of people should be approached with extreme skepticism.

 

[forkup]

You don’t seem to understand the arguments presented in the videos.

“Christians believe that God is always at work in the natural world, in the gaps as well as in the areas that science can explain.”

Are Gaps in Scientific Knowledge Evidence for God? - BioLogos

The God of the Bible is much more than a god of the gaps. God is always at work in the natural world, in the gaps as well as the areas that science can explain.

biologos.org

What lies were told about non-theist mathematicians?

What are these non-God hypotheses you speak of that explain the fact that the universe is governed by equations many scientists have described as beautiful.

We could be living in a universe where every other Tuesday an ugly set of equations was in force but only in parts of Wisconsin. And the universe could be even more radically disordered.

When did the video “assume that because the universe here exists now; as it is, that that's the only possible way a universe can be”?

What are these non-God hypotheses you speak of that explain the fact that the universe is governed by equations many scientists have described as beautiful.

It's called the unified field theory.

 

[forkup]

There is no point in questioning what one does not belief. For example, I don't go around questioning a flat earth, no moon landing, etc. Haven't run into a middle school student yet who asks questions about something that has no existence.

Why not? How do you think science works?

Science is full of people who disproved, or proved hypothesis by testing. Belief has nothing to do with it. If my balls didn't come down I'd have some reason to believe in God. So is them coming down a reason to disbelieve. Neither are positive proof in any case, but claiming the test somehow requires me to believe in God one way or another to be a valid test, is simply nonsense.

Here we have 2 competing hypothesis. "God exists" or "God doesn't." Since only one is actually making a positive claim, that's the claim that needs to be proven.

What you do is switch it around. And not just that tried to argue that your claim doesn't need to be proven, (tested). Simply telling me I need to "seek him", and rejecting my assertion that you're claiming I simply need to assume it true.

So not only are you switching the burden of proof, but asserting you don't need any.

I've even attempted to accommodate as best I figure I can. By pointing out the sheer mathematical unlikeliness that any religious claim is true in the context of history. Something you tried to shrug off, by the kind of ridiculous notion that all religions, no matter how different somehow still are the same.

When I was in middle school, I had a great science teacher. His VERY first lesson was focused on one notion. Question everything. Throughout the year he routinely gave wrong information, to drill home the point the check your notes. He changed how I look at the world today by making me understand, that critical thinking requires healthy skepticism especially your own preconceptions. I don't think the science curriculum has changed to such an extent, that that's not part of it anymore?

 

[Meriweather]

Why not? How do you think science works?

Science is full of people who disproved, or proved hypothesis by testing. Belief has nothing to do with it. If my balls didn't come down I'd have some reason to believe in God. So is them coming down a reason to disbelieve. Neither are positive proof in any case, but claiming the test somehow requires me to believe in God one way or another to be a valid test, is simply nonsense.

I know how science works. It begins with what is measurable and observable of physical objects and phenomenon. Then it presents a testable hypothesis. From these tests theories are formed. What it does not begin with are questions such as, "Why do unicorns have horns?"

To have a question about God is to have some knowledge of God and or belief. As God is not a physical being, there is nothing physical to observe or measure.

ding presents valid arguments for a creator, using the formation of the universe as something physical, something measurable.