Is anyone ready to admit they voted for higher taxes, higher fuel costs and a better life for Mexico’s citizens?

[pknopp]

I've long argued that we need to raise taxes to address our debt. I don't understand why so many are willing to be such deadbeats.

I'm long argued to either address the businesses hiring illegals OR make the illegals, legal so that the business can't get around paying them less than a legal wage.

Gas will do what the markets want to do.

You are nuts if you believe any of the taxation will be used to even slow debt growth. They will just spend faster. It would be like asking a crack addict to take your money to the bank. It really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't blow the tax dollars. Killing our energy sector and relying on foreign countries sure won't help our fuel costs. Even if Washington and businesses want illegal immigration, rolling back Trump's efforts at border security isn't good for anyone, the caravan is coming.

It's up to us how it's spent. I argued for years for Trump to do something about the illegals working here. He didn't so now you really have little room to complain.

no one has done a dam thing about the illegals working here.....

No doubt. Now they will likely be legal by the millions. The end result is all the same to me. Business no longer being able to take advantage of illegal labor.

But fucking over the American worker is just fine and dandy with leftist.

That's what the businesses hiring the illegals are doing. How long should we continue to look the other way?

Blame the establishment,otherwise known as the deep state.
I hear both sides constituents calling for higher penalties for hiring illegals yet none of our politicians lift a finger to make it happen.
The next best thing is to stop em at the border. Which of course is the last thing biden has in mind.
And in his case it's about votes because he sure as hell doesnt care about the American worker.

I'm not interested. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

You're not interested in saving jobs for Americans.
Got it.

Lash out at the facts all you want. It changes nothing.

And what facts did you lay down?

I've made the argument 500 times.

So nothing new under the sun.

No, no there isn't. We will continue to ignore the actual issue. Employers.

Like dems have done for decades.

Like both parties have done.

So tell me.
Who's the only person thats tried to do something to stop the flow?

That would be no one.

Can not tell even one truth.

I noted for a long time that ignoring the issue (employers) would lead to where we are and here we are.

Well no shit Sherlock.
If we cant get the politicians to enforce the rules nothing will change.
And who tried to go about stopping the influx....you can start lying now.

No one. So here we are.

You sure are predictable.
So what do you think biden will do other than welcome millions of more illegals?
You're free to start lying again.

I've addressed that already. Yes, that is what he is going to do. I predicted this months ago. And here we are.

But Trump tried to stop it.

Just stop it. He did absolutely NOTHING about those hiring illegals. Nothing.

So you obviously support the mass immigration of illegals by voting for biden.
You're free to start lying again.

I fully support what is going to happen. Millions of illegal workers are going to be made legal. That will be a temporary positive as the businesses will be forced to pay them a legal wage. Sooner or later millions of more illegals will stream in taking their jobs. They will then have to file for welfare.

Or we could have done the right thing and went after the businesses bringing people in and employing them illegally. People like yourself preferred excuses.

And here we are.

Fining employers who hire illegals is the ONLY way to stop illegals.

Yeah, this ain't rocket science.

They come here for the JOBS.

Exactly.... and Trump always employed lots of illegals at his hotels and resorts.

Maybe if we stopped them from coming here.
Aww fuck it..you're more concerned about votes than the American worker.

You keep up the excuses and they keep on coming. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

So why dont dems do anything to stop it?
They dont even try,in fact they open the borders and let em in.
Go ahead and lie and say they dont...we expect it from your type.

They don't pretend to care. You care more about your politics than the problem.

Well thats bullshit.
I'm retired and the only thing I get out of illegals is cheap labor.
Personally I'd rather pay more for American workers.

But you refuse to condemn the politicians you support that do (did) nothing about the problem.

So you're saying Trump did nothing?
So why did you cry and scream like a little bitch about the wall?

He built a handful of new miles which stopped nothing and did nothing to address the problem. Now you are going to pay for it.

He built 453 miles of wall.

Most of that was replacement. Besides, it's irrelevant. It stops no one.

Odd.

Watch: 110 migrants use ladder to scale border wall in Arizona

 

[surada]

Many of the young ones liked Biden because they're the dumbest bunch of assholes to ever come down the pike. The heroin generation.

Dumb kids couldn't even approach your stupidity.

Trump is one petty, spiteful tub of lard.. He sent all the WH staff home so there were NO butlers, maids, cooks there to meet the Bidens.

 

[daveman]

I've long argued that we need to raise taxes to address our debt. I don't understand why so many are willing to be such deadbeats.

I'm long argued to either address the businesses hiring illegals OR make the illegals, legal so that the business can't get around paying them less than a legal wage.

Gas will do what the markets want to do.

You are nuts if you believe any of the taxation will be used to even slow debt growth. They will just spend faster. It would be like asking a crack addict to take your money to the bank. It really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't blow the tax dollars. Killing our energy sector and relying on foreign countries sure won't help our fuel costs. Even if Washington and businesses want illegal immigration, rolling back Trump's efforts at border security isn't good for anyone, the caravan is coming.

It's up to us how it's spent. I argued for years for Trump to do something about the illegals working here. He didn't so now you really have little room to complain.

no one has done a dam thing about the illegals working here.....

No doubt. Now they will likely be legal by the millions. The end result is all the same to me. Business no longer being able to take advantage of illegal labor.

But fucking over the American worker is just fine and dandy with leftist.

That's what the businesses hiring the illegals are doing. How long should we continue to look the other way?

Blame the establishment,otherwise known as the deep state.
I hear both sides constituents calling for higher penalties for hiring illegals yet none of our politicians lift a finger to make it happen.
The next best thing is to stop em at the border. Which of course is the last thing biden has in mind.
And in his case it's about votes because he sure as hell doesnt care about the American worker.

I'm not interested. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

You're not interested in saving jobs for Americans.
Got it.

Lash out at the facts all you want. It changes nothing.

And what facts did you lay down?

I've made the argument 500 times.

So nothing new under the sun.

No, no there isn't. We will continue to ignore the actual issue. Employers.

Like dems have done for decades.

Like both parties have done.

So tell me.
Who's the only person thats tried to do something to stop the flow?

That would be no one.

Can not tell even one truth.

I noted for a long time that ignoring the issue (employers) would lead to where we are and here we are.

Well no shit Sherlock.
If we cant get the politicians to enforce the rules nothing will change.
And who tried to go about stopping the influx....you can start lying now.

No one. So here we are.

You sure are predictable.
So what do you think biden will do other than welcome millions of more illegals?
You're free to start lying again.

I've addressed that already. Yes, that is what he is going to do. I predicted this months ago. And here we are.

But Trump tried to stop it.

Just stop it. He did absolutely NOTHING about those hiring illegals. Nothing.

So you obviously support the mass immigration of illegals by voting for biden.
You're free to start lying again.

I fully support what is going to happen. Millions of illegal workers are going to be made legal. That will be a temporary positive as the businesses will be forced to pay them a legal wage. Sooner or later millions of more illegals will stream in taking their jobs. They will then have to file for welfare.

Or we could have done the right thing and went after the businesses bringing people in and employing them illegally. People like yourself preferred excuses.

And here we are.

Fining employers who hire illegals is the ONLY way to stop illegals.

Yeah, this ain't rocket science.

They come here for the JOBS.

Exactly.... and Trump always employed lots of illegals at his hotels and resorts.

Maybe if we stopped them from coming here.
Aww fuck it..you're more concerned about votes than the American worker.

You keep up the excuses and they keep on coming. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

So why dont dems do anything to stop it?
They dont even try,in fact they open the borders and let em in.
Go ahead and lie and say they dont...we expect it from your type.

They don't pretend to care. You care more about your politics than the problem.

Well thats bullshit.
I'm retired and the only thing I get out of illegals is cheap labor.
Personally I'd rather pay more for American workers.

But you refuse to condemn the politicians you support that do (did) nothing about the problem.

So you're saying Trump did nothing?
So why did you cry and scream like a little bitch about the wall?

He built a handful of new miles which stopped nothing and did nothing to address the problem. Now you are going to pay for it.

He built 453 miles of wall.

Most of that was replacement. Besides, it's irrelevant. It stops no one.

Odd.

Watch: 110 migrants use ladder to scale border wall in Arizona

Yes, I know. Like I said, odd. The people who insist walls are useless walled off DC for the inauguration.

But then, the people who insisted on DC's wall are more interested in protecting their own skins than American citizens on the southern border.

 

[j-mac]

Ok. Republicans had all three branches of government for a solid two years.

Why was the illegal immigration thing not solved?

Don’t try to flip this around on Democrats. You were in control and you couldn’t solve the problem. Why is that? Maybe your idea to fix the issue wasn’t very effective.

Because you whiney libs called them racist.

So you were in control of all three branches and you guys couldn’t fix the issue that you’re so passionate about because the minority party was mean to you.

Is that your argument?

Sounds to me like your people are incompetent.

I don't think it was just the Democrats alone during that time that were obstructing Trump's agenda...If you remember there were a handful of retard Republican's that also sabatoged his plans....

 

[danielpalos]

Many of the young ones liked Biden because they're the dumbest bunch of assholes to ever come down the pike. The heroin generation.

Where are heroines

I've long argued that we need to raise taxes to address our debt. I don't understand why so many are willing to be such deadbeats.

I'm long argued to either address the businesses hiring illegals OR make the illegals, legal so that the business can't get around paying them less than a legal wage.

Gas will do what the markets want to do.

You are nuts if you believe any of the taxation will be used to even slow debt growth. They will just spend faster. It would be like asking a crack addict to take your money to the bank. It really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't blow the tax dollars. Killing our energy sector and relying on foreign countries sure won't help our fuel costs. Even if Washington and businesses want illegal immigration, rolling back Trump's efforts at border security isn't good for anyone, the caravan is coming.

It's up to us how it's spent. I argued for years for Trump to do something about the illegals working here. He didn't so now you really have little room to complain.

no one has done a dam thing about the illegals working here.....

No doubt. Now they will likely be legal by the millions. The end result is all the same to me. Business no longer being able to take advantage of illegal labor.

But fucking over the American worker is just fine and dandy with leftist.

That's what the businesses hiring the illegals are doing. How long should we continue to look the other way?

Blame the establishment,otherwise known as the deep state.
I hear both sides constituents calling for higher penalties for hiring illegals yet none of our politicians lift a finger to make it happen.
The next best thing is to stop em at the border. Which of course is the last thing biden has in mind.
And in his case it's about votes because he sure as hell doesnt care about the American worker.

I'm not interested. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

You're not interested in saving jobs for Americans.
Got it.

Lash out at the facts all you want. It changes nothing.

And what facts did you lay down?

I've made the argument 500 times.

So nothing new under the sun.

No, no there isn't. We will continue to ignore the actual issue. Employers.

Like dems have done for decades.

Like both parties have done.

So tell me.
Who's the only person thats tried to do something to stop the flow?

That would be no one.

Can not tell even one truth.

I noted for a long time that ignoring the issue (employers) would lead to where we are and here we are.

Well no shit Sherlock.
If we cant get the politicians to enforce the rules nothing will change.
And who tried to go about stopping the influx....you can start lying now.

No one. So here we are.

You sure are predictable.
So what do you think biden will do other than welcome millions of more illegals?
You're free to start lying again.

I've addressed that already. Yes, that is what he is going to do. I predicted this months ago. And here we are.

But Trump tried to stop it.

Just stop it. He did absolutely NOTHING about those hiring illegals. Nothing.

So you obviously support the mass immigration of illegals by voting for biden.
You're free to start lying again.

I fully support what is going to happen. Millions of illegal workers are going to be made legal. That will be a temporary positive as the businesses will be forced to pay them a legal wage. Sooner or later millions of more illegals will stream in taking their jobs. They will then have to file for welfare.

Or we could have done the right thing and went after the businesses bringing people in and employing them illegally. People like yourself preferred excuses.

And here we are.

Fining employers who hire illegals is the ONLY way to stop illegals.

Yeah, this ain't rocket science.

They come here for the JOBS.

Exactly.... and Trump always employed lots of illegals at his hotels and resorts.

Maybe if we stopped them from coming here.
Aww fuck it..you're more concerned about votes than the American worker.

You keep up the excuses and they keep on coming. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

So why dont dems do anything to stop it?
They dont even try,in fact they open the borders and let em in.
Go ahead and lie and say they dont...we expect it from your type.

They don't pretend to care. You care more about your politics than the problem.

Well thats bullshit.
I'm retired and the only thing I get out of illegals is cheap labor.
Personally I'd rather pay more for American workers.

But you refuse to condemn the politicians you support that do (did) nothing about the problem.

So you're saying Trump did nothing?
So why did you cry and scream like a little bitch about the wall?

He built a handful of new miles which stopped nothing and did nothing to address the problem. Now you are going to pay for it.

He built 453 miles of wall.

Most of that was replacement. Besides, it's irrelevant. It stops no one.

Odd.

Watch: 110 migrants use ladder to scale border wall in Arizona

Buy American ladders! Isn't Capitalism wonderful.

 

[j-mac]

Many of the young ones liked Biden because they're the dumbest bunch of assholes to ever come down the pike. The heroin generation.

Trump is one petty, spiteful tub of lard..

Trump is? Have you been following your own group of assholes for 4 years?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Ok. Republicans had all three branches of government for a solid two years.

Why was the illegal immigration thing not solved?

Don’t try to flip this around on Democrats. You were in control and you couldn’t solve the problem. Why is that? Maybe your idea to fix the issue wasn’t very effective.

Because you whiney libs called them racist.

So you were in control of all three branches and you guys couldn’t fix the issue that you’re so passionate about because the minority party was mean to you.

Is that your argument?

Sounds to me like your people are incompetent.

I don't think it was just the Democrats alone during that time that were obstructing Trump's agenda...If you remember there were a handful of retard Republican's that also sabatoged his plans....

Who sabotaged his plans?

You had all three branches of government and still couldn't fix the issue. Maybe you need to start looking inward instead of blaming everything on Democrats. Republicans were in control.

Blaming Democrats is a nice scapegoat for you ignoring your own party's incompetence.

 

[Kondor3]

...Just wait until their white kids come out of high school or college, and get denied one job after another, only to watch illegal alien invaders who cant even speak English, scoop up the jobs they should have gotten, just because they're brown. Did I say "college" ? They'll probably never get in.

Then field a candidate in 2024 who knows how to stem the flow and eject the Illegals without separating families and putting little children in cages.

You idiots just don't understand "optics" and just how badly they can work against you. once a voter draws the curtain in that voting booth.

Your arrogant ignorant incompetent irrational Orange Baboon-God didn't understand the optics either... on a great MANY situations.

America dodged the Dictator Bullet once again.

Your demigod and failed Messiah was his own worst enemy.

God be praised.

 

[j-mac]

...Just wait until their white kids come out of high school or college, and get denied one job after another, only to watch illegal alien invaders who cant even speak English, scoop up the jobs they should have gotten, just because they're brown. Did I say "college" ? They'll probably never get in.

Then field a candidate in 2024 who knows how to stem the flow and eject the Illegals without separating families and putting little children in cages.

You idiots just don't understand "optics" and just how badly they can work against you. once a voter draws the curtain in that voting booth.

Your arrogant ignorant incompetent irrational Orange Baboon-God didn't understand the optics either... on a great MANY situations.

America dodged the Dictator Bullet once again.

Your demigod and failed Messiah was his own worst enemy.

God be praised.

Those were Obama cages....

 

[Kondor3]

...Those were Obama cages....

USED by Rump... doesn't make any difference who built 'em... what DOES signify is who actually USED 'em... and who got caught doing it.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, but you people are dense...

Fortunately for the Republic and the Rule of Law, there are legions of Rumplicans formerly running things about whom that may be rightfully attributed.

 

[surada]

I've long argued that we need to raise taxes to address our debt. I don't understand why so many are willing to be such deadbeats.

I'm long argued to either address the businesses hiring illegals OR make the illegals, legal so that the business can't get around paying them less than a legal wage.

Gas will do what the markets want to do.

You are nuts if you believe any of the taxation will be used to even slow debt growth. They will just spend faster. It would be like asking a crack addict to take your money to the bank. It really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't blow the tax dollars. Killing our energy sector and relying on foreign countries sure won't help our fuel costs. Even if Washington and businesses want illegal immigration, rolling back Trump's efforts at border security isn't good for anyone, the caravan is coming.

It's up to us how it's spent. I argued for years for Trump to do something about the illegals working here. He didn't so now you really have little room to complain.

no one has done a dam thing about the illegals working here.....

No doubt. Now they will likely be legal by the millions. The end result is all the same to me. Business no longer being able to take advantage of illegal labor.

But fucking over the American worker is just fine and dandy with leftist.

That's what the businesses hiring the illegals are doing. How long should we continue to look the other way?

Blame the establishment,otherwise known as the deep state.
I hear both sides constituents calling for higher penalties for hiring illegals yet none of our politicians lift a finger to make it happen.
The next best thing is to stop em at the border. Which of course is the last thing biden has in mind.
And in his case it's about votes because he sure as hell doesnt care about the American worker.

I'm not interested. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

You're not interested in saving jobs for Americans.
Got it.

Lash out at the facts all you want. It changes nothing.

And what facts did you lay down?

I've made the argument 500 times.

So nothing new under the sun.

No, no there isn't. We will continue to ignore the actual issue. Employers.

Like dems have done for decades.

Like both parties have done.

So tell me.
Who's the only person thats tried to do something to stop the flow?

That would be no one.

Can not tell even one truth.

I noted for a long time that ignoring the issue (employers) would lead to where we are and here we are.

Well no shit Sherlock.
If we cant get the politicians to enforce the rules nothing will change.
And who tried to go about stopping the influx....you can start lying now.

No one. So here we are.

You sure are predictable.
So what do you think biden will do other than welcome millions of more illegals?
You're free to start lying again.

I've addressed that already. Yes, that is what he is going to do. I predicted this months ago. And here we are.

But Trump tried to stop it.

Just stop it. He did absolutely NOTHING about those hiring illegals. Nothing.

So you obviously support the mass immigration of illegals by voting for biden.
You're free to start lying again.

I fully support what is going to happen. Millions of illegal workers are going to be made legal. That will be a temporary positive as the businesses will be forced to pay them a legal wage. Sooner or later millions of more illegals will stream in taking their jobs. They will then have to file for welfare.

Or we could have done the right thing and went after the businesses bringing people in and employing them illegally. People like yourself preferred excuses.

And here we are.

Fining employers who hire illegals is the ONLY way to stop illegals.

Yeah, this ain't rocket science.

They come here for the JOBS.

Exactly.... and Trump always employed lots of illegals at his hotels and resorts.

Maybe if we stopped them from coming here.
Aww fuck it..you're more concerned about votes than the American worker.

You keep up the excuses and they keep on coming. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

So why dont dems do anything to stop it?
They dont even try,in fact they open the borders and let em in.
Go ahead and lie and say they dont...we expect it from your type.

They don't pretend to care. You care more about your politics than the problem.

Well thats bullshit.
I'm retired and the only thing I get out of illegals is cheap labor.
Personally I'd rather pay more for American workers.

But you refuse to condemn the politicians you support that do (did) nothing about the problem.

So you're saying Trump did nothing?
So why did you cry and scream like a little bitch about the wall?

He built a handful of new miles which stopped nothing and did nothing to address the problem. Now you are going to pay for it.

He built 453 miles of wall.

Most of that was replacement. Besides, it's irrelevant. It stops no one.

Odd.

Watch: 110 migrants use ladder to scale border wall in Arizona

Yes, I know. Like I said, odd. The people who insist walls are useless walled off DC for the inauguration.

But then, the people who insisted on DC's wall are more interested in protecting their own skins than American citizens on the southern border.

Trump walled off the WH.. What are you talking about?

 

[Thinker101]

...Those were Obama cages....

USED by Rump... doesn't make any difference who built 'em... what DOES signify is who actually USED 'em... and who got caught doing it.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, but you people are dense...

Fortunately for the Republic and the Rule of Law, there are legions of Rumplicans formerly running things about whom that may be rightfully attributed.

WTF, Obama BUILT them just for fun, Christ sake.

 

[j-mac]

...Those were Obama cages....

USED by Rump... doesn't make any difference who built 'em... what DOES signify is who actually USED 'em... and who got caught doing it.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, but you people are dense...

Fortunately for the Republic and the Rule of Law, there are legions of Rumplicans formerly running things about whom that may be rightfully attributed.

Go fuck yourself you ignorant troll...

 

[surada]

...Just wait until their white kids come out of high school or college, and get denied one job after another, only to watch illegal alien invaders who cant even speak English, scoop up the jobs they should have gotten, just because they're brown. Did I say "college" ? They'll probably never get in.

Then field a candidate in 2024 who knows how to stem the flow and eject the Illegals without separating families and putting little children in cages.

You idiots just don't understand "optics" and just how badly they can work against you. once a voter draws the curtain in that voting booth.

Your arrogant ignorant incompetent irrational Orange Baboon-God didn't understand the optics either... on a great MANY situations.

America dodged the Dictator Bullet once again.

Your demigod and failed Messiah was his own worst enemy.

God be praised.

Those were Obama cages....

Obama had to protect and keep unaccompanied minors safe.. They were teen-agers.. He didn't take little kids away from their parents. That's what Assad did in Syria that started their civil war. Do you know what the word "unaccompanied" means?

 

[surada]

...Those were Obama cages....

USED by Rump... doesn't make any difference who built 'em... what DOES signify is who actually USED 'em... and who got caught doing it.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, but you people are dense...

Fortunately for the Republic and the Rule of Law, there are legions of Rumplicans formerly running things about whom that may be rightfully attributed.

WTF, Obama BUILT them just for fun, Christ sake.

Do you know what "unaccompanied minors" means?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Replacing a three foot high barbed wire fence with a thirty foot wall is new wall dumbshit.

They have Home Depot in Mexico now; buy American ladders!

You show your ignorance daily.
It's not just a fence ya moron,there's electronic sensors that tell the BP if someone is trying to climb them.
How do you think they caught the dumbass hanging from the wall?

 

[j-mac]

...Just wait until their white kids come out of high school or college, and get denied one job after another, only to watch illegal alien invaders who cant even speak English, scoop up the jobs they should have gotten, just because they're brown. Did I say "college" ? They'll probably never get in.

Then field a candidate in 2024 who knows how to stem the flow and eject the Illegals without separating families and putting little children in cages.

You idiots just don't understand "optics" and just how badly they can work against you. once a voter draws the curtain in that voting booth.

Your arrogant ignorant incompetent irrational Orange Baboon-God didn't understand the optics either... on a great MANY situations.

America dodged the Dictator Bullet once again.

Your demigod and failed Messiah was his own worst enemy.

God be praised.

Those were Obama cages....

Obama had to protect and keep unaccompanied minors safe.. They were teen-agers.. He didn't take little kids away from their parents. That's what Assad did in Syria that started their civil war. Do you know what the word "unaccompanied" means?

I sure do, and that is exactly what Trump was doing...When those kids crossed with people who weren't their parents they were not allowed to stay with those people....You people just lied your ass off about it....

 

[Thinker101]

...Those were Obama cages....

USED by Rump... doesn't make any difference who built 'em... what DOES signify is who actually USED 'em... and who got caught doing it.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, but you people are dense...

Fortunately for the Republic and the Rule of Law, there are legions of Rumplicans formerly running things about whom that may be rightfully attributed.

WTF, Obama BUILT them just for fun, Christ sake.

Do you know what "unaccompanied minors" means?

Apparently to some of you libs it means fresh meat or clean toilets.

 

[surada]

...Those were Obama cages....

USED by Rump... doesn't make any difference who built 'em... what DOES signify is who actually USED 'em... and who got caught doing it.

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, but you people are dense...

Fortunately for the Republic and the Rule of Law, there are legions of Rumplicans formerly running things about whom that may be rightfully attributed.

WTF, Obama BUILT them just for fun, Christ sake.

Do you know what "unaccompanied minors" means?

Apparently to some of you libs it means fresh meat.

Gosh, you must be a pedophile.

 

[daveman]

I've long argued that we need to raise taxes to address our debt. I don't understand why so many are willing to be such deadbeats.

I'm long argued to either address the businesses hiring illegals OR make the illegals, legal so that the business can't get around paying them less than a legal wage.

Gas will do what the markets want to do.

You are nuts if you believe any of the taxation will be used to even slow debt growth. They will just spend faster. It would be like asking a crack addict to take your money to the bank. It really doesn't make sense that they wouldn't blow the tax dollars. Killing our energy sector and relying on foreign countries sure won't help our fuel costs. Even if Washington and businesses want illegal immigration, rolling back Trump's efforts at border security isn't good for anyone, the caravan is coming.

It's up to us how it's spent. I argued for years for Trump to do something about the illegals working here. He didn't so now you really have little room to complain.

no one has done a dam thing about the illegals working here.....

No doubt. Now they will likely be legal by the millions. The end result is all the same to me. Business no longer being able to take advantage of illegal labor.

But fucking over the American worker is just fine and dandy with leftist.

That's what the businesses hiring the illegals are doing. How long should we continue to look the other way?

Blame the establishment,otherwise known as the deep state.
I hear both sides constituents calling for higher penalties for hiring illegals yet none of our politicians lift a finger to make it happen.
The next best thing is to stop em at the border. Which of course is the last thing biden has in mind.
And in his case it's about votes because he sure as hell doesnt care about the American worker.

I'm not interested. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

You're not interested in saving jobs for Americans.
Got it.

Lash out at the facts all you want. It changes nothing.

And what facts did you lay down?

I've made the argument 500 times.

So nothing new under the sun.

No, no there isn't. We will continue to ignore the actual issue. Employers.

Like dems have done for decades.

Like both parties have done.

So tell me.
Who's the only person thats tried to do something to stop the flow?

That would be no one.

Can not tell even one truth.

I noted for a long time that ignoring the issue (employers) would lead to where we are and here we are.

Well no shit Sherlock.
If we cant get the politicians to enforce the rules nothing will change.
And who tried to go about stopping the influx....you can start lying now.

No one. So here we are.

You sure are predictable.
So what do you think biden will do other than welcome millions of more illegals?
You're free to start lying again.

I've addressed that already. Yes, that is what he is going to do. I predicted this months ago. And here we are.

But Trump tried to stop it.

Just stop it. He did absolutely NOTHING about those hiring illegals. Nothing.

So you obviously support the mass immigration of illegals by voting for biden.
You're free to start lying again.

I fully support what is going to happen. Millions of illegal workers are going to be made legal. That will be a temporary positive as the businesses will be forced to pay them a legal wage. Sooner or later millions of more illegals will stream in taking their jobs. They will then have to file for welfare.

Or we could have done the right thing and went after the businesses bringing people in and employing them illegally. People like yourself preferred excuses.

And here we are.

Fining employers who hire illegals is the ONLY way to stop illegals.

Yeah, this ain't rocket science.

They come here for the JOBS.

Exactly.... and Trump always employed lots of illegals at his hotels and resorts.

Maybe if we stopped them from coming here.
Aww fuck it..you're more concerned about votes than the American worker.

You keep up the excuses and they keep on coming. As long as the jobs are here they will come.

So why dont dems do anything to stop it?
They dont even try,in fact they open the borders and let em in.
Go ahead and lie and say they dont...we expect it from your type.

They don't pretend to care. You care more about your politics than the problem.

Well thats bullshit.
I'm retired and the only thing I get out of illegals is cheap labor.
Personally I'd rather pay more for American workers.

But you refuse to condemn the politicians you support that do (did) nothing about the problem.

So you're saying Trump did nothing?
So why did you cry and scream like a little bitch about the wall?

He built a handful of new miles which stopped nothing and did nothing to address the problem. Now you are going to pay for it.

He built 453 miles of wall.

Most of that was replacement. Besides, it's irrelevant. It stops no one.

Odd.

Watch: 110 migrants use ladder to scale border wall in Arizona

Yes, I know. Like I said, odd. The people who insist walls are useless walled off DC for the inauguration.

But then, the people who insisted on DC's wall are more interested in protecting their own skins than American citizens on the southern border.

Trump walled off the WH.. What are you talking about?

Link. Find the order signed by Donald J. Trump, President of the United States.