Iraq is imploding. Should we lend air support or wash our hands?

[PaintMyHouse]

The best thing we can do for Iraq, nothing. It's what we should have done in the first place.

 

[Politico]

Any reason to think the liberals won't just pull us out before the war's over, again?

Sigh we pulled out per our agreement made years before. Sad how short people's memories are. Let me help you with history. Obammy hoping no one remembered he was against being in Iraq.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po]2002 Barack Obama Interview: Against Iraq - YouTube[/ame]

asked if we could stay. They told us don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLFTQTKBL2E]Obama: U.S. Troops Will Exit Iraq by Dec. - YouTube[/ame]

So again not realizing video doesn't go away, he claimed he ended the war that was agreed to be ended years before.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1sxdXsffYE]President Obama declares an end to Iraq war - YouTube[/ame]

So we are done. Mission accomplished!

All they are asking for is drone strikes. This is absolutely appalling that none in the West are helping Iraq defend itself from ISIS.

I don't care if they are asking for firecrackers. The little prick doesn't need to be dragging us into another war that is none of our business.

 

[Synthaholic]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

That's the problem. Republicans see everyone they are against as "terrorists". If they weren't such education tards, the Middle East wouldn't be in the mess it's in.

Iran is Shiite.

Iraq was controlled by a Sunni minority. True, al Qaeda is Sunni, but Bin Laden and Saddam were enemies because both wanted to be leaders of the Sunni.

When Bush invaded Iraq, he opened the doors for al Qaeda to enter Iraq. Worse, in his tarded ignorance and refusal of any help from experts in the Muslim Religion, he installed a mostly Shiite government which is why the Iraqi government is such close friends with Iran.

The Sunni, who had been in charge of Iraq for the last 13 centuries were disenfranchised by the US installed and backed Shiite government.

Now they are fighting back, taking back territory they believe is theirs with the help of al Qaeda, the organization that attacked the US when headed by Bin Laden, the guy Republicans let go and stopped looking for.

In their ignorance and shallow bully minds, Republicans couldn't have made a bigger disaster than if they had planned it out all in advance.

They turned over the apple cart.
Fucked over millions of people (not even counting what they let happen to Iraqi Christians)
Ignored al Qaeda
Let Bin Laden go
Created the worst possible government

Even helped the Iraqi's put this into their constitution:

Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Full Text of Iraqi Constitution

In fact, the ONLY thing I can think of they did to help Iraq was to make sure it had a single payer health care system, something they won't allow here.

And you wonder why thinking people are angry at the GOP????

When you kill innocent men, women and children you are a terrorist no matter what the looney left says

To you they are innocent. To them, they are the enemy.

 

[Synthaholic]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

'Terrorists'?

They are actually the Sunni population that has been in Iraq for 13 centuries. It's the Iranian-backed Shiite minority government which was installed by Bush who should be sent packing.

They may be calling themselves al Qaeda, but these aren't the people from bin Laden's group.

What were the elections all about?

Theirs or ours?

 

[Synthaholic]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

That's the problem. Republicans see everyone they are against as "terrorists". If they weren't such education tards, the Middle East wouldn't be in the mess it's in.

Iran is Shiite.

Iraq was controlled by a Sunni minority. True, al Qaeda is Sunni, but Bin Laden and Saddam were enemies because both wanted to be leaders of the Sunni.

When Bush invaded Iraq, he opened the doors for al Qaeda to enter Iraq. Worse, in his tarded ignorance and refusal of any help from experts in the Muslim Religion, he installed a mostly Shiite government which is why the Iraqi government is such close friends with Iran.

The Sunni, who had been in charge of Iraq for the last 13 centuries were disenfranchised by the US installed and backed Shiite government.

Now they are fighting back, taking back territory they believe is theirs with the help of al Qaeda, the organization that attacked the US when headed by Bin Laden, the guy Republicans let go and stopped looking for.

In their ignorance and shallow bully minds, Republicans couldn't have made a bigger disaster than if they had planned it out all in advance.

They turned over the apple cart.
Fucked over millions of people (not even counting what they let happen to Iraqi Christians)
Ignored al Qaeda
Let Bin Laden go
Created the worst possible government

Even helped the Iraqi's put this into their constitution:

Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Full Text of Iraqi Constitution

In fact, the ONLY thing I can think of they did to help Iraq was to make sure it had a single payer health care system, something they won't allow here.

And you wonder why thinking people are angry at the GOP????

What an ignorant and uninformed LYING mother fucking post AGAIN rdean.

You are wrong and rdean is absolutely correct.

 

[Steinlight]

Saddam, miss him yet?

Honestly, what a waste of blood and treasure that war was, we got absolutely nothing out of this pointless quagmire(except a trillion in debt, thousands of americans dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis debt, and a demoralized fighting force that is spread far too thin) . We didn't even get oil out of the deal(we fought a war to give the Chinese cheap oil).

And as if the situation couldn't get any worse, President Noble Peace Prize had the bright idea to give Al Qaeda weapons in Syria(because Assad was the new Hitler), and when these guys lost in Syria they have just decided to overthrow the puppet state we spent a decade establishing.

It comes full circle, President Bush got rid of Saddam because Al Qaeda(despite the fact Saddam opposed Al Qaeda and had nothing to do with 911), now the Smartest President Ever put Al Qaeda into a position to run the country with the second largest oil supply in the middle east.

It's dark comedy is what it is.

 

[regent]

It's the American people I feel sorry for, all those lives and money and this. To restore the American people's morale, we should continually play on TV Bush's carrier landing and his Mission Accomplished sign. Great morale builder.

 

[tinydancer]

'Terrorists'?

They are actually the Sunni population that has been in Iraq for 13 centuries. It's the Iranian-backed Shiite minority government which was installed by Bush who should be sent packing.

They may be calling themselves al Qaeda, but these aren't the people from bin Laden's group.

They are terrorists. Make no mistake about it. I've been watching the spin develop on different lib boards trying to do damage control and find a way to blame Bush for Obama's mega fuck up allowing ISIS and Baghdadi to form a terrorist army.

You can't. Here ya go. Chew on it. From your liberal rag....

“The true heir to Osama bin Laden may be ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,” wrote The Washington Post’s David Ignatius. He is “more violent, more virulent, more anti-American,” a senior U.S. intelligence official told the columnist, while the cautious and uncharismatic Zawahiri “is not coping well.” In fact, Baghdadi is now recruiting fighters from other Zawahiri affiliates, including al-Qaeda’s Yemen branch and the Somalia-based al-Shabab.



Obama let this terrorist go in 2009.

“Whereas Baghdadi has done an amazing amount — he has captured cities, he has mobilized huge amounts of people, he is killing ruthlessly throughout Iraq and Syria…. If you were a guy who wanted action, you would go with Baghdadi.”

How ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the world?s most powerful jihadist leader - The Washington Post

Guy was never in captivity therefore he couldn't have been let go. Are you hitting the sauce?

One of the worst things about the US media these days is they lie, or cover up or just don't give the American public real news so that individuals can be armed with facts and not spin.

So I hate to burst your bubble Ravi....

ABU DUA: IMPRISONED BY THE US, THE MAN WHO HATES THE WEST MORE THAN OSAMA BIN LADEN

The shadowy leader of thousands of Islamist fighters in Syria and Iraq, many of them Westerners, appears to be surpassing Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri as the world’s most influential jihadist.


They call him The Ghost.

WHY DID THE US RELEASE BAGHDADI RELEASED FROM BOCCA CAMP?

Baghdadi has a $10million bounty on his head by the US that is only second to that of Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri at $25million.

He was taken as a prisoner of the Americans in Camp Bucca between 2005 and 2009 - it was here that one of the only two photos know to be in existence was taken of him.

It is unknown if he came radicalised during his time at the camp where many al-Qaeda commanders were held or if he was already a radical who emerged after the 2003 US invasion.

A US intelligence report from 2005, states: 'Abu Duaa was connected to the intimidation, torture and murder of local civilians in Qaim', says a Pentagon document.

'He would kidnap individuals or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them.'

It is therefore unclear why he was released in 2009.

He may have been one of thousands of suspected insurgents granted amnesty as the US began its draw down in Iraq or he may be under several names.

'We either arrested or killed a man of that name about half a dozen times, he is like a wraith who keeps reappearing, and I am not sure where fact and fiction meet,' said Lieutenant-General Sir Graeme Lamb, a former British special forces commander who helped US efforts against al-Qaeda in Iraq told The Telegraph.

'There are those who want to promote the idea that this man is invincible, when it may actually be several people using the same nom de guerre.'



Tikrit falls to Islamist terrorists | Mail Online

 

[BlindBoo]

Hey you've posted this a hundred times already...
He owns nothing...shut up

No way am I going to shut up about a President who would allow AQ to build up an army of 12,000 on his freaking watch.

While he and Kerry and others wanted Assad removed from power so bad he could taste it, Baghdadi was amassing an army and a fortune to arm it.

While Obama and Kerry and others were lying thru their teeth that this was a "Syrian Spring" anyone with a lick of sense and a brain was finding out that there was no such person as a Syrian rebel.

All freaking lies from this White House aka Home of the Whopper.

They were paid mercenaries and terrorists trying to take out Assad. True mother trucking story.

And Obama has allowed ISIS and Levant to flourish and now they are beheading their way to Baghdad.

The blood of Iraqis is on his hands. He owns it. And now the bastard won't even give air support.

Air support! A couple of days ago a unit of Americans asked for air support, they got it, the helicopters bombed the Americans killing five. American air support isn't what it used to be. obama is on the side of al quaeda.

An American fighter jet mistakenly dropped at least one laser-guided bomb on Canadian forces in Afghanistan during a live-fire training exercise today.

'Friendly fire' kills Canadian soldiers | Mail Online

Friendly fire has been a part of warfare as long as it has existed. However, in more recent times, the growing destructiveness of modern weapons has contributed to making friendly fire more devastating than ever before. Despite the concurrent advance of IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) technology and other gadgets to reduce the likelihood of this, simple human error means friendly fire is a problem that is unlikely to disappear. This list looks at eight modern examples of friendly fire – their causes, and their consequences.

8 Worst Cases of Friendly Fire - Listverse

What Really Happened To Pat Tillman? - CBS News

 

[Ravi]

They are terrorists. Make no mistake about it. I've been watching the spin develop on different lib boards trying to do damage control and find a way to blame Bush for Obama's mega fuck up allowing ISIS and Baghdadi to form a terrorist army.

You can't. Here ya go. Chew on it. From your liberal rag....

“The true heir to Osama bin Laden may be ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,” wrote The Washington Post’s David Ignatius. He is “more violent, more virulent, more anti-American,” a senior U.S. intelligence official told the columnist, while the cautious and uncharismatic Zawahiri “is not coping well.” In fact, Baghdadi is now recruiting fighters from other Zawahiri affiliates, including al-Qaeda’s Yemen branch and the Somalia-based al-Shabab.



Obama let this terrorist go in 2009.

“Whereas Baghdadi has done an amazing amount — he has captured cities, he has mobilized huge amounts of people, he is killing ruthlessly throughout Iraq and Syria…. If you were a guy who wanted action, you would go with Baghdadi.”

How ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the world?s most powerful jihadist leader - The Washington Post

Guy was never in captivity therefore he couldn't have been let go. Are you hitting the sauce?

One of the worst things about the US media these days is they lie, or cover up or just don't give the American public real news so that individuals can be armed with facts and not spin.

So I hate to burst your bubble Ravi....

ABU DUA: IMPRISONED BY THE US, THE MAN WHO HATES THE WEST MORE THAN OSAMA BIN LADEN

The shadowy leader of thousands of Islamist fighters in Syria and Iraq, many of them Westerners, appears to be surpassing Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri as the world’s most influential jihadist.


They call him The Ghost.

WHY DID THE US RELEASE BAGHDADI RELEASED FROM BOCCA CAMP?

Baghdadi has a $10million bounty on his head by the US that is only second to that of Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri at $25million.

He was taken as a prisoner of the Americans in Camp Bucca between 2005 and 2009 - it was here that one of the only two photos know to be in existence was taken of him.

It is unknown if he came radicalised during his time at the camp where many al-Qaeda commanders were held or if he was already a radical who emerged after the 2003 US invasion.

A US intelligence report from 2005, states: 'Abu Duaa was connected to the intimidation, torture and murder of local civilians in Qaim', says a Pentagon document.

'He would kidnap individuals or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them.'

It is therefore unclear why he was released in 2009.

He may have been one of thousands of suspected insurgents granted amnesty as the US began its draw down in Iraq or he may be under several names.

'We either arrested or killed a man of that name about half a dozen times, he is like a wraith who keeps reappearing, and I am not sure where fact and fiction meet,' said Lieutenant-General Sir Graeme Lamb, a former British special forces commander who helped US efforts against al-Qaeda in Iraq told The Telegraph.

'There are those who want to promote the idea that this man is invincible, when it may actually be several people using the same nom de guerre.'



Tikrit falls to Islamist terrorists | Mail Online

^Made up BS.

 

[tinydancer]

That's the problem. Republicans see everyone they are against as "terrorists". If they weren't such education tards, the Middle East wouldn't be in the mess it's in.

Iran is Shiite.

Iraq was controlled by a Sunni minority. True, al Qaeda is Sunni, but Bin Laden and Saddam were enemies because both wanted to be leaders of the Sunni.

When Bush invaded Iraq, he opened the doors for al Qaeda to enter Iraq. Worse, in his tarded ignorance and refusal of any help from experts in the Muslim Religion, he installed a mostly Shiite government which is why the Iraqi government is such close friends with Iran.

The Sunni, who had been in charge of Iraq for the last 13 centuries were disenfranchised by the US installed and backed Shiite government.

Now they are fighting back, taking back territory they believe is theirs with the help of al Qaeda, the organization that attacked the US when headed by Bin Laden, the guy Republicans let go and stopped looking for.

In their ignorance and shallow bully minds, Republicans couldn't have made a bigger disaster than if they had planned it out all in advance.

They turned over the apple cart.
Fucked over millions of people (not even counting what they let happen to Iraqi Christians)
Ignored al Qaeda
Let Bin Laden go
Created the worst possible government

Even helped the Iraqi's put this into their constitution:

Article 2:

First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Full Text of Iraqi Constitution

In fact, the ONLY thing I can think of they did to help Iraq was to make sure it had a single payer health care system, something they won't allow here.

And you wonder why thinking people are angry at the GOP????

What an ignorant and uninformed LYING mother fucking post AGAIN rdean.

You are wrong and rdean is absolutely correct.

It's not a Sunni insurgency no matter how you try to spin it. You're looking like an asshole. Look I monitor lib boards. I knew the talking point bullshit before the first post went up that this was now a civil war Sunni against Shia and of course Bush was to blame.



Blatant lie. But what else should I expect from left wing loons. You really should educate yourself on how Baghdadi has amassed an army of terrorists. Because if they take over Iraq, whoa geeze red lines in the sand won't help the planet.

*cough* they're definitely more dangerous than global warming. And if the Shias feel that the west has abandoned them expect home growns in droves to exact retribution for America and others deserting them in their time of need.

Now ISIS/Levant is a terrorist organization that used to be under the umbrella of AQ. You know Al Qaeda that Obama is on record saying that they are decimated and on the run.

Freaking delusional man you've got at the WH.

'They lined the streets with the decapitated heads of police and soldiers': Iraqi refugee reveals the horrors of the jihadi takeover as Baghdad vows to fight back


ISIS militants march on Baghdad with a bullet in the head for anyone who gets in the way | Mail Online

 

[BlindBoo]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

'Terrorists'?

They are actually the Sunni population that has been in Iraq for 13 centuries. It's the Iranian-backed Shiite minority government which was installed by Bush who should be sent packing.

They may be calling themselves al Qaeda, but these aren't the people from bin Laden's group.

They are terrorists. Make no mistake about it. I've been watching the spin develop on different lib boards trying to do damage control and find a way to blame Bush for Obama's mega fuck up allowing ISIS and Baghdadi to form a terrorist army.

You can't. Here ya go. Chew on it. From your liberal rag....

“The true heir to Osama bin Laden may be ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,” wrote The Washington Post’s David Ignatius. He is “more violent, more virulent, more anti-American,” a senior U.S. intelligence official told the columnist, while the cautious and uncharismatic Zawahiri “is not coping well.” In fact, Baghdadi is now recruiting fighters from other Zawahiri affiliates, including al-Qaeda’s Yemen branch and the Somalia-based al-Shabab.



Obama let this terrorist go in 2009.

“Whereas Baghdadi has done an amazing amount — he has captured cities, he has mobilized huge amounts of people, he is killing ruthlessly throughout Iraq and Syria…. If you were a guy who wanted action, you would go with Baghdadi.”

How ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the world?s most powerful jihadist leader - The Washington Post

"Much of what is known of Baghdadi’s history is unconfirmed, while other information is disputed to such a degree that it’s nearly impossible to discern where fact meets Baghdadi’s rising myth."

That is from your link.

So care to expand upon the claim that Obama let this guy go?

 

[tinydancer]

Guy was never in captivity therefore he couldn't have been let go. Are you hitting the sauce?

One of the worst things about the US media these days is they lie, or cover up or just don't give the American public real news so that individuals can be armed with facts and not spin.

So I hate to burst your bubble Ravi....

ABU DUA: IMPRISONED BY THE US, THE MAN WHO HATES THE WEST MORE THAN OSAMA BIN LADEN

The shadowy leader of thousands of Islamist fighters in Syria and Iraq, many of them Westerners, appears to be surpassing Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri as the world’s most influential jihadist.


They call him The Ghost.

WHY DID THE US RELEASE BAGHDADI RELEASED FROM BOCCA CAMP?

Baghdadi has a $10million bounty on his head by the US that is only second to that of Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri at $25million.

He was taken as a prisoner of the Americans in Camp Bucca between 2005 and 2009 - it was here that one of the only two photos know to be in existence was taken of him.

It is unknown if he came radicalised during his time at the camp where many al-Qaeda commanders were held or if he was already a radical who emerged after the 2003 US invasion.

A US intelligence report from 2005, states: 'Abu Duaa was connected to the intimidation, torture and murder of local civilians in Qaim', says a Pentagon document.

'He would kidnap individuals or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them.'

It is therefore unclear why he was released in 2009.

He may have been one of thousands of suspected insurgents granted amnesty as the US began its draw down in Iraq or he may be under several names.

'We either arrested or killed a man of that name about half a dozen times, he is like a wraith who keeps reappearing, and I am not sure where fact and fiction meet,' said Lieutenant-General Sir Graeme Lamb, a former British special forces commander who helped US efforts against al-Qaeda in Iraq told The Telegraph.

'There are those who want to promote the idea that this man is invincible, when it may actually be several people using the same nom de guerre.'



Tikrit falls to Islamist terrorists | Mail Online

^Made up BS.

Link to negate data put out there by both the Daily Mail and the Telegraph that he was held in Camp Bocco? Oh and the BBC?

Note: I'm picking up two different spellings of the American camp. Not a typo.

Some believe he was already a militant jihadist during the rule of Saddam Hussein. Others suggest he was radicalised during the four years he was held at Camp Bucca, a US facility in southern Iraq where many al-Qaeda commanders were detained.

You might want to check out who America let go that just might take over Iraq up and coming.

Profile: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

BBC News - Profile: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

 

[blackhawk]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

We will watch it fall President Obama has made it clear he won't get involved in a military way in the Middle East or anywhere else.

 

[Paperman299]

Guy was never in captivity therefore he couldn't have been let go. Are you hitting the sauce?

One of the worst things about the US media these days is they lie, or cover up or just don't give the American public real news so that individuals can be armed with facts and not spin.

So I hate to burst your bubble Ravi....

ABU DUA: IMPRISONED BY THE US, THE MAN WHO HATES THE WEST MORE THAN OSAMA BIN LADEN

The shadowy leader of thousands of Islamist fighters in Syria and Iraq, many of them Westerners, appears to be surpassing Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri as the world’s most influential jihadist.


They call him The Ghost.

WHY DID THE US RELEASE BAGHDADI RELEASED FROM BOCCA CAMP?

Baghdadi has a $10million bounty on his head by the US that is only second to that of Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri at $25million.

He was taken as a prisoner of the Americans in Camp Bucca between 2005 and 2009 - it was here that one of the only two photos know to be in existence was taken of him.

It is unknown if he came radicalised during his time at the camp where many al-Qaeda commanders were held or if he was already a radical who emerged after the 2003 US invasion.

A US intelligence report from 2005, states: 'Abu Duaa was connected to the intimidation, torture and murder of local civilians in Qaim', says a Pentagon document.

'He would kidnap individuals or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them.'

It is therefore unclear why he was released in 2009.

He may have been one of thousands of suspected insurgents granted amnesty as the US began its draw down in Iraq or he may be under several names.

'We either arrested or killed a man of that name about half a dozen times, he is like a wraith who keeps reappearing, and I am not sure where fact and fiction meet,' said Lieutenant-General Sir Graeme Lamb, a former British special forces commander who helped US efforts against al-Qaeda in Iraq told The Telegraph.

'There are those who want to promote the idea that this man is invincible, when it may actually be several people using the same nom de guerre.'



Tikrit falls to Islamist terrorists | Mail Online

^Made up BS.

It's not.

The $10 million price on his head, meanwhile, suggests that whoever released him from US custody four years ago may now be regretting it.

Information about him is still pretty sketchy, but it seems most likely at this point that we did have this person in custody and released him in 2009.

 

[tinydancer]

'Terrorists'?

They are actually the Sunni population that has been in Iraq for 13 centuries. It's the Iranian-backed Shiite minority government which was installed by Bush who should be sent packing.

They may be calling themselves al Qaeda, but these aren't the people from bin Laden's group.

They are terrorists. Make no mistake about it. I've been watching the spin develop on different lib boards trying to do damage control and find a way to blame Bush for Obama's mega fuck up allowing ISIS and Baghdadi to form a terrorist army.

You can't. Here ya go. Chew on it. From your liberal rag....

“The true heir to Osama bin Laden may be ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,” wrote The Washington Post’s David Ignatius. He is “more violent, more virulent, more anti-American,” a senior U.S. intelligence official told the columnist, while the cautious and uncharismatic Zawahiri “is not coping well.” In fact, Baghdadi is now recruiting fighters from other Zawahiri affiliates, including al-Qaeda’s Yemen branch and the Somalia-based al-Shabab.



Obama let this terrorist go in 2009.

“Whereas Baghdadi has done an amazing amount — he has captured cities, he has mobilized huge amounts of people, he is killing ruthlessly throughout Iraq and Syria…. If you were a guy who wanted action, you would go with Baghdadi.”

How ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi became the world?s most powerful jihadist leader - The Washington Post

"Much of what is known of Baghdadi’s history is unconfirmed, while other information is disputed to such a degree that it’s nearly impossible to discern where fact meets Baghdadi’s rising myth."

That is from your link.

So care to expand upon the claim that Obama let this guy go?

He was let go in 2009. Just go thru and read my posts. I'm not giving you a fairy tale. I'm presenting the board with information that is out there from different solid sources.

Here we go again.

WHY DID THE US RELEASE BAGHDADI RELEASED FROM BOCCA CAMP?

Baghdadi has a $10million bounty on his head by the US that is only second to that of Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri at $25million.

He was taken as a prisoner of the Americans in Camp Bucca between 2005 and 2009 - it was here that one of the only two photos know to be in existence was taken of him.

It is unknown if he came radicalised during his time at the camp where many al-Qaeda commanders were held or if he was already a radical who emerged after the 2003 US invasion.

A US intelligence report from 2005, states: 'Abu Duaa was connected to the intimidation, torture and murder of local civilians in Qaim', says a Pentagon document.

'He would kidnap individuals or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them.'

It is therefore unclear why he was released in 2009.

He may have been one of thousands of suspected insurgents granted amnesty as the US began its draw down in Iraq or he may be under several names.

'We either arrested or killed a man of that name about half a dozen times, he is like a wraith who keeps reappearing, and I am not sure where fact and fiction meet,' said Lieutenant-General Sir Graeme Lamb, a former British special forces commander who helped US efforts against al-Qaeda in Iraq told The Telegraph.

'There are those who want to promote the idea that this man is invincible, when it may actually be several people using the same nom de guerre.'



Tikrit falls to Islamist terrorists | Mail Online

 

[Ravi]

One of the worst things about the US media these days is they lie, or cover up or just don't give the American public real news so that individuals can be armed with facts and not spin.

So I hate to burst your bubble Ravi....

ABU DUA: IMPRISONED BY THE US, THE MAN WHO HATES THE WEST MORE THAN OSAMA BIN LADEN

The shadowy leader of thousands of Islamist fighters in Syria and Iraq, many of them Westerners, appears to be surpassing Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri as the world’s most influential jihadist.


They call him The Ghost.

WHY DID THE US RELEASE BAGHDADI RELEASED FROM BOCCA CAMP?

Baghdadi has a $10million bounty on his head by the US that is only second to that of Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahri at $25million.

He was taken as a prisoner of the Americans in Camp Bucca between 2005 and 2009 - it was here that one of the only two photos know to be in existence was taken of him.

It is unknown if he came radicalised during his time at the camp where many al-Qaeda commanders were held or if he was already a radical who emerged after the 2003 US invasion.

A US intelligence report from 2005, states: 'Abu Duaa was connected to the intimidation, torture and murder of local civilians in Qaim', says a Pentagon document.

'He would kidnap individuals or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them.'

It is therefore unclear why he was released in 2009.

He may have been one of thousands of suspected insurgents granted amnesty as the US began its draw down in Iraq or he may be under several names.

'We either arrested or killed a man of that name about half a dozen times, he is like a wraith who keeps reappearing, and I am not sure where fact and fiction meet,' said Lieutenant-General Sir Graeme Lamb, a former British special forces commander who helped US efforts against al-Qaeda in Iraq told The Telegraph.

'There are those who want to promote the idea that this man is invincible, when it may actually be several people using the same nom de guerre.'



Tikrit falls to Islamist terrorists | Mail Online

^Made up BS.

Link to negate data put out there by both the Daily Mail and the Telegraph that he was held in Camp Bocco? Oh and the BBC?

Note: I'm picking up two different spellings of the American camp. Not a typo.

Some believe he was already a militant jihadist during the rule of Saddam Hussein. Others suggest he was radicalised during the four years he was held at Camp Bucca, a US facility in southern Iraq where many al-Qaeda commanders were detained.

You might want to check out who America let go that just might take over Iraq up and coming.

Profile: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

BBC News - Profile: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

I bet your picking up a lot more than misspellings.

 

[TooTall]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

We should respect any agreements, if any, to provide assistance - but nothing more.

We could send bushcheney there to help out. They created the problem to begin with.

He had a little help creating the problem:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush turns his attention on Friday to the United Nations after the Senate joined the House in strong votes authorizing a possible U.S. attack on Iraq.

The Republican-led House and Democratic-led Senate by wide margins approved the resolution that Bush wanted to reinforce his demand that the U.N. Security Council threaten the use of force, if necessary, to enforce its requirements that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein abandon programs for biological, chemical or nuclear weapons.

"The Congress has spoken clearly to the international community and the United Nations Security Council," Bush said in a statement issued after the early-hours vote.

"Saddam Hussein and his outlaw regime pose a grave threat to the region, the world, and the United States. Inaction is not an option, disarmament is a must," Bush said.

The House earlier Thursday passed the resolution 296-133 after three days of debate.

Under intense pressure from the White House, which wanted a big bipartisan majority in Congress to strengthen its hand in its confrontation with Iraq, the Democratic-led Senate passed the war powers resolution, 77-23.

Congress Grants Bush War Powers Against Iraq

 

[Mojo2]

The terrorists are now marching on Bagdad. The Iraq government is asking for help, should we oblige?
Seems strange to me that we would spend all the money & lives just to let it fall in a matter of weeks/months.

This happens when you seek to only end wars and not finish them.

And this is the lesson of Viet Nam we STILL haven't learned.

 

[Synthaholic]

Saddam, miss him yet?

I missed him the day we invaded. I wanted us to reconcile with him and put up a united front against Iran.

Honestly, what a waste of blood and treasure that war was, we got absolutely nothing out of this pointless quagmire(except a trillion in debt, thousands of americans dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis debt, and a demoralized fighting force that is spread far too thin) . We didn't even get oil out of the deal(we fought a war to give the Chinese cheap oil).

Ok, so far, so good.

And as if the situation couldn't get any worse, President Noble Peace Prize had the bright idea to give Al Qaeda weapons in Syria(because Assad was the new Hitler), and when these guys lost in Syria they have just decided to overthrow the puppet state we spent a decade establishing.

...and now you've gone full retard.

Obama didn't arm the Syrian rebels, like John McCain wanted him to.