Iraq is imploding. Should we lend air support or wash our hands?

[georgephillip]

Air support, the Mesa Verde is there, or on the way, we need to send more.

Why do we need to murder, maim, and displace more Muslims, because it has all worked out so well so far?

 

[peach174]

Air support, the Mesa Verde is there, or on the way, we need to send more.

Why do we need to murder, maim, and displace more Muslims, because it has all worked out so well so far?

Have we had them attack us since 9/11?
Yes it has worked out, but not now. They are getting their strength back again thanks to this administration.

Because Muslim Terrorists want to murder us.
Did you not read the evidence that they are planning to wipe out electrical girds?

 

[georgephillip]

How many nuclear weapons ISIS has NOW, is irrelevant to how many they could possess in a relatively short time after taking over Iraq, with all it's massive oil wealth. All the momentum and cards seem to be pointing in exactly that direction. Al Qaeda has been talking about whacking the US with nukes for years (the infamous "American Hiroshima). And ISIS has attacking America right in their official charter. What more so we need ? Graffiti on the White House ?

WE are indeed in their crosshairs, and anyone who would deny it is playing with the annihilation of America.

Yellowstone is a bigger threat to annihilate America.
Unlike most of the Muslim world, Sh'ia are the majority in Iraq, and they have back-up next door in Iran. If you really worry about smoking guns and mushroom clouds, you should help convince your government to stop killing Muslims for money and market share.

ANSWER Coalition

An eruption from Yellowstone would create an ash cloud that would affect the entire world's atmosphere for a decade or more not just America.

If they get a build up there again. They will do the same thing again to us like they did on 9/11.
This next time it would be our electric grids. Not planes.
Al-Qaeda Calls for 'Electronic Jihad' - Terror group compares US cybersecurity to pre-9/11 aviation

I'm not sure what you mean by "if they get built up there again?"
Al-Qai'da has more fighters and controls more land today than it did before the US maimed, murdered, and displaced millions of innocent Muslim civilians.

"This is the clearest evidence we've seen that al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups want to attack the cyber systems of our critical infrastructure," said committee chief Joe Lieberman, who argued that the video proves that new legislation is needed to protect key networks. 'Congress needs to act now to protect the American public from a possible devastating attack on our electric grid, water delivery systems, or financial networks,' he said."

Joe Lieberman is one of many politicians and bureaucrats who should be standing trial for their role in lying this country into the invasion of Iraq and for allowing 911 to happen in the first place.

Al-Qaeda Calls for 'Electronic Jihad' - Terror group compares US cybersecurity to pre-9/11 aviation

 

[Slyhunter]

Air support, the Mesa Verde is there, or on the way, we need to send more.

Why do we need to murder, maim, and displace more Muslims, because it has all worked out so well so far?

They're terrorism is proof we didn't kill enough.

 

[kaz]

For some reason Obama became obsessed with getting rid of Assad

Obama is Sunni

Where in heaven's name would you get that idea?

He's a Sunni sympathizer if you prefer. His only real God is himself. The left agree with him on that.

 

[Plasmaball]

Obama is Sunni

Where in heaven's name would you get that idea?

He's a Sunni sympathizer if you prefer. His only real God is himself. The left agree with him on that.

the only people who agree with this are retards....you are a retard

 

[Kondor3]

ISIS is out in the open...kill them with our killing machines. General Keane just outlined actions to take on Fox...too bad you missed it.

Gerald Ford had the same choices in front of him in 1975. He (and/or his people) knew that airstrikes would not prove decisive as a stand-alone tactic, and let it (Vietnam) go.

Ragheads out in the open country do not equate to gooks in the jungle...and our capabilities are centuries advanced since Ford. Unfortunately civilian leadership is at an all time low.

Trouble is, ISIS will not be operating in the open; they'll be operating in scattered hunter-killer packs over open terrain, rather than Highway-of-Death -caliber convoy concentrations, and, for the most part, actually operating within settled areas (villages, towns, cities), with tons of innocent civilians nearby. Oh, and, by the way, once the NVA began its final campaign against the South, they were utilizing the open roads to move mechanized infantry and artillery and armor, just like the other guys, if memory serves correctly.

The analogy stands.

I don't have much confidence in our leadership either, but, when airpower by itself is unlikely to prove decisive, then airpower by itself is unlikely to prove decisive;l so, why waste millions (billions?) more on expensive munitions when what's really needed is airpower plus boots on the ground?

2014 = 1975. Baghdad = Saigon. ISIS = the NVA. Maliki & Co. = ARVN.

The analogy stands.

If the Iraqis show us they can hold on, and reverse various ISIS gains, then, maybe we can consider airstrikes, but, until we've reached such a tipping point, I, for one, would prefer that we stay out of this train-wreck.

 

[kaz]

Where in heaven's name would you get that idea?

He's a Sunni sympathizer if you prefer. His only real God is himself. The left agree with him on that.

the only people who agree with this are retards....you are a retard

He's a narcissist. And I've never seen a politician more worshiped as the left do. It's sick.

He pursues the same policies W did, and you are able to see W as evil and Obama as brilliant. He's cleaning up the country. With the same policies that destroyed it.

Like in Iraq, he finished W's plan. Which fixed the problem W created. What is wrong with you people?

 

[georgephillip]

Air support, the Mesa Verde is there, or on the way, we need to send more.

Why do we need to murder, maim, and displace more Muslims, because it has all worked out so well so far?

Have we had them attack us since 9/11?
Yes it has worked out, but not now. They are getting their strength back again thanks to this administration.

Because Muslim Terrorists want to murder us.
Did you not read the evidence that they are planning to wipe out electrical girds?

Why do they want to murder us?
Because we have given Israel carte blanch to occupy all of Palestine, consistently supported Middle East dictators, launched a pair of illegal invasions/occupations that have resulted in millions of refugees, and used our drones from Pakistan to Yemen to murder innocent Muslims?

Our electrical grids have more to fear from solar flares than al-Qa'ida, but if we don't roll back our terror, some of it will blow back.

 

[1776]

Obama claims "his victory in Iraq" back in 2011.

In 2014...."It's bush's fault the terrorists have risen in power there."

 

[Clementine]

Nope fuck them. ..they wanted us out...we shouldnt have been there..This is what was said would happen when bush when in...

Obama said this wouldn't happen.

If Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda or the Taliban were the ones being attacked, Obama would help. Since he doesn't go against the radicals, he is sitting this one out.

 

[Plasmaball]

He's a Sunni sympathizer if you prefer. His only real God is himself. The left agree with him on that.

the only people who agree with this are retards....you are a retard

He's a narcissist. And I've never seen a politician more worshiped as the left do. It's sick.

and now hes a narcissist. look dude, just stop. What you see is nothing new. What you see is today's politics in full swing because the lines have been drawn. Every issue is now the superbowl and that side must win.

you got suckered, fully and its only hurting yourself.

But here is the kicker, you dont see it that way. So what you will do ( or i should say would have done) is respond to my post in some partisan way about how Obama is destroying the nation because he is some radical Commie, muslim, narcissist, who wants to shove his progressive radical muslim loving ideas down our throats.

The truth he isnt. He is simply a man.

 

[georgephillip]

Air support, the Mesa Verde is there, or on the way, we need to send more.

Why do we need to murder, maim, and displace more Muslims, because it has all worked out so well so far?

They're terrorism is proof we didn't kill enough.

Their terrorism is proof you can't kill innocent Muslim without blow-back.

 

[Plasmaball]

Nope fuck them. ..they wanted us out...we shouldnt have been there..This is what was said would happen when bush when in...

Obama said this wouldn't happen.

If Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda or the Taliban were the ones being attacked, Obama would help. Since he doesn't go against the radicals, he is sitting this one out.

thats why he is sending carriers to the ME as an option in helping Iraq.


US sends aircraft carrier to Persian Gulf as Obama considers air strikes in Iraq | World news | theguardian.com


Do you even bother to read the news you fucking moron? Seriously you are one stupid motherfucker.Punch yourself in the face next time instead of posting. It will do the same amount of good.

 

[peach174]

Why do we need to murder, maim, and displace more Muslims, because it has all worked out so well so far?

Have we had them attack us since 9/11?
Yes it has worked out, but not now. They are getting their strength back again thanks to this administration.

Because Muslim Terrorists want to murder us.
Did you not read the evidence that they are planning to wipe out electrical girds?

Why do they want to murder us?
Because we have given Israel carte blanch to occupy all of Palestine, consistently supported Middle East dictators, launched a pair of illegal invasions/occupations that have resulted in millions of refugees, and used our drones from Pakistan to Yemen to murder innocent Muslims?

Our electrical grids have more to fear from solar flares than al-Qa'ida, but if we don't roll back our terror, some of it will blow back.

The Koran tells them to.
Their enemies are Jews and Christians.
They are the same types of Muslims that we fought with in the Barbary Coast Wars. We did nothing to them in the 1700's. Yet they extorted money from us by taking Americans as Prisoners.
It is not because of what we did.
Even we would have done nothing to them they would still want to kill us because we are the Big Satan and Israel is the little Satan.

 

[peach174]

They want to wipe off the Earth every Jew and Christian on this planet.
Why do you think that they are killing all of the Christians over there and destroying the Churches?
The Christians over there have done nothing to them.

 

[Plasmaball]

They want to wipe off the Earth every Jew and Christian on this planet.
Why do you think that they are killing all of the Christians over there and destroying the Churches?
The Christians over there have done nothing to them.

religions tend to want to wipe the other one out. Convert or dont get into heaven.

 

[georgephillip]

Have we had them attack us since 9/11?
Yes it has worked out, but not now. They are getting their strength back again thanks to this administration.

Because Muslim Terrorists want to murder us.
Did you not read the evidence that they are planning to wipe out electrical girds?

Why do they want to murder us?
Because we have given Israel carte blanch to occupy all of Palestine, consistently supported Middle East dictators, launched a pair of illegal invasions/occupations that have resulted in millions of refugees, and used our drones from Pakistan to Yemen to murder innocent Muslims?

Our electrical grids have more to fear from solar flares than al-Qa'ida, but if we don't roll back our terror, some of it will blow back.

The Koran tells them to.
Their enemies are Jews and Christians.
They are the same types of Muslims that we fought with in the Barbary Coast Wars. We did nothing to them in the 1700's. Yet they extorted money from us by taking Americans as Prisoners.
It is not because of what we did.
Even we would have done nothing to them they would still want to kill us because we are the Big Satan and Israel is the little Satan.

Oil changed everything.

"The Red Line Agreement had been 'part of a network of agreements made in the 1920s to restrict supply of petroleum and ensure that the major [mostly American] companies ... could control oil prices on world markets'.[6]

"The Red Line agreement governed the development of Middle East oil for the next two decades.

"The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil.

"Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:

"Persian oil ... is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it's ours.[7]"

Keep in mind the US was the world's leading oil exporter when FDR had this conversation.

When the next New Pearl Harbor strikes, we will have no one to blame except those who get rich from eternal war and endless debt

United States foreign policy in the Middle East - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Samson]

Why do they want to murder us?
Because we have given Israel carte blanch to occupy all of Palestine, consistently supported Middle East dictators, launched a pair of illegal invasions/occupations that have resulted in millions of refugees, and used our drones from Pakistan to Yemen to murder innocent Muslims?

Our electrical grids have more to fear from solar flares than al-Qa'ida, but if we don't roll back our terror, some of it will blow back.

The Koran tells them to.
Their enemies are Jews and Christians.
They are the same types of Muslims that we fought with in the Barbary Coast Wars. We did nothing to them in the 1700's. Yet they extorted money from us by taking Americans as Prisoners.
It is not because of what we did.
Even we would have done nothing to them they would still want to kill us because we are the Big Satan and Israel is the little Satan.

Oil changed everything.

"The Red Line Agreement had been 'part of a network of agreements made in the 1920s to restrict supply of petroleum and ensure that the major [mostly American] companies ... could control oil prices on world markets'.[6]

"The Red Line agreement governed the development of Middle East oil for the next two decades.

"The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil.

"Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:

"Persian oil ... is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it's ours.[7]"

Keep in mind the US was the world's leading oil exporter when FDR had this conversation.

When the next New Pearl Harbor strikes, we will have no one to blame except those who get rich from eternal war and endless debt

United States foreign policy in the Middle East - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

They want to wipe off the Earth every Jew and Christian on this planet.
Why do you think that they are killing all of the Christians over there and destroying the Churches?
The Christians over there have done nothing to them.

There are more than a billion Muslims on the planet; how many want to exterminate all Jews and Christians. The Christians "over there" may not have done anything to Muslims, but Christians in the US and Europe have done a great deal.

"Conventional wisdom in American politics focuses only on American costs in the war in Iraq: the casualties to U.S. soldiers, the financial costs, and sometimes the strategic costs. But the human cost to the Iraqis themselves are nearly ignored in political discourse, the news media, and intellectual circles. This site is a corrective to those oversights. We present empirical reports, studies, and other accounts that convey and assess the consequences of war for the people of Iraq. "

The Human Cost of the War in Iraq