Iranians dancing in the streets, but long faces in Lib La La Land

Cellblock2429 said:
/----/ OH NOOOSE. Iran is kicking our weak, pathetic military; Trump is hiding under his desk shivering in fear. Iranians are marching in the street shouting, WE BEAT YOUR AZZ, AMERICA.
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Kind of. What did we accomplish for $50 billion dollars? What a dope you are.

No, Trump's not scared. He has a bunker. He has security. He's also not worried about you being attacked. He even said it. During war people die.

Iran’s enriched uranium remains in Iran. A formerly free passage through the Strait of Hormuz is now and may remain a toll route. What did we win again?

Iran’s hard-line theocracy is still intact and still in possession of its enriched uranium. Seizing that was one of the many and various reasons Trump has given for waging the war. Further, there is not even a consensus on the terms of the ceasefire.

“No clear consensus on which of the 10 points both sides agree on, noting that the proposal is Iran’s.”

“The U.S. is objectively worse off than before we started the war. ... The fact that we are negotiating on the basis of Iran’s 10-point plan is a sure sign of defeat.”

- Robert Kagan, State Department veteran of the Reagan administration

Iran’s plan, however, included provisions such as retaining control of and the right to monetize the Strait of Hormuz, the lifting of all U.S. sanctions that had been placed on the country over two decades and a promise by the U.S. never to attack again.
Trump and his aides quickly claimed that wasn’t the 10-point plan Trump meant, but a different plan that Iran had proposed, one more to Trump’s liking. Leavitt on Wednesday also said reporters should ignore statements coming from Iran entirely. “What Iran says publicly or feeds to all of you in the press is much different than what they communicate to the United States, the president and his team privately,” she said.

“When things are all over, I don’t think there will be much in the plus column except weakening their military for the moment,” said Jim Townsend, who has worked at both the Pentagon and NATO and is now with the Center for a New American Security.
Robert Kagan, a State Department veteran of the Reagan administration, said Trump did not merely fail to accomplish his claimed goals, but actually harmed American interests.

The U.S. is objectively worse off than before we started the war. Iran has gotten international sanction to charge tolls and control passage through the strait. Iran will use this to insist on sanction relief from any nation that wishes to use the strait. It will be backed in this by Russia and China. Iran has not conceded on enrichment. I don’t see how Trump stops Russia and China from replenishing Iran’s weapons supply,” he said. “China has become a major player in the Gulf in a way that it has never been before. The fact that we are negotiating on the basis of Iran’s 10-point plan is a sure sign of defeat.”

Trump is ******* us!!!
 
sealybobo said:
Kind of. What did we accomplish for $50 billion dollars? What a dope you are.

No, Trump's not scared. He has a bunker. He has security. He's also not worried about you being attacked. He even said it. During war people die.

Iran’s enriched uranium remains in Iran. A formerly free passage through the Strait of Hormuz is now and may remain a toll route. What did we win again?

Iran’s hard-line theocracy is still intact and still in possession of its enriched uranium. Seizing that was one of the many and various reasons Trump has given for waging the war. Further, there is not even a consensus on the terms of the ceasefire.

“No clear consensus on which of the 10 points both sides agree on, noting that the proposal is Iran’s.”

“The U.S. is objectively worse off than before we started the war. ... The fact that we are negotiating on the basis of Iran’s 10-point plan is a sure sign of defeat.”

- Robert Kagan, State Department veteran of the Reagan administration

Iran’s plan, however, included provisions such as retaining control of and the right to monetize the Strait of Hormuz, the lifting of all U.S. sanctions that had been placed on the country over two decades and a promise by the U.S. never to attack again.
Trump and his aides quickly claimed that wasn’t the 10-point plan Trump meant, but a different plan that Iran had proposed, one more to Trump’s liking. Leavitt on Wednesday also said reporters should ignore statements coming from Iran entirely. “What Iran says publicly or feeds to all of you in the press is much different than what they communicate to the United States, the president and his team privately,” she said.

“When things are all over, I don’t think there will be much in the plus column except weakening their military for the moment,” said Jim Townsend, who has worked at both the Pentagon and NATO and is now with the Center for a New American Security.
Robert Kagan, a State Department veteran of the Reagan administration, said Trump did not merely fail to accomplish his claimed goals, but actually harmed American interests.

The U.S. is objectively worse off than before we started the war. Iran has gotten international sanction to charge tolls and control passage through the strait. Iran will use this to insist on sanction relief from any nation that wishes to use the strait. It will be backed in this by Russia and China. Iran has not conceded on enrichment. I don’t see how Trump stops Russia and China from replenishing Iran’s weapons supply,” he said. “China has become a major player in the Gulf in a way that it has never been before. The fact that we are negotiating on the basis of Iran’s 10-point plan is a sure sign of defeat.”

Trump is ******* us!!!
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Maybe stuff your face with a taco?
 
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Mac-7 said:


Jubilant Iranians doing the Trump Dance

But jane fonda is sad

What could be better?
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I wonder how many Americans will dance in the streets when Trump is dead?

And did you hear Iranians are dancing in the streets today?

Crowds took to the streets of Iran overnight to celebrate, waving Iranian flags and burning those of the United States and Israel.

The clerical leadership, which faced mass protests months ago, has withstood the superpower onslaught with no sign of internal collapse.
 
sealybobo said:
You need to start listening to NPR


You pigs don't realize the damage Trump is doing.
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/----/ NPR - Left-wing propaganda. You need to stop listening to it.

Critics, including former senior editor Uri Berliner, have argued that NPR has a "viewpoint diversity" problem:

  • Story Selection: Critics argue NPR prioritizes progressive social issues while downplaying stories that might favor conservative viewpoints (e.g., the Hunter Biden laptop story or the "lab leak" theory).
  • Staff Demographics: Berliner noted that in NPR's DC headquarters, the vast majority of editorial staff are registered Democrats, which can lead to an "echo chamber" effect.
  • Tone: The use of specific terminology (e.g., "Latinx" or "unhoused") is often cited as an adoption of progressive language that alienates more conservative listeners.
 
sealybobo said:
I wonder how many Americans will dance in the streets when Trump is dead?

And did you hear Iranians are dancing in the streets today?

Crowds took to the streets of Iran overnight to celebrate, waving Iranian flags and burning those of the United States and Israel.

The clerical leadership, which faced mass protests months ago, has withstood the superpower onslaught with no sign of internal collapse.
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Of course America and Iran are both deeply divided counyries

Its a sign of the times
 
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