Iranian information

[Nik]

bloggers can be so unreliable in so many ways
not that the MSM is really any more reliable

There isn't any 100% reliable info on this topic. Its all small reports that are being filtered out through the media. And its not like the videos are faked ;p

 

[Neser Boha]

I don't know if it has been talked about here in the thread, but I'd like to point out that there has been an election boycott going on in the last election in Iran (and even prior to that on local municipal level) - thanks to which (the boycott) Ahmadinejad won. If the boycott hasn't taken place, it probably would have been the pro-reformist candidate (can't remember his name - either Rasfanijani or Mousavi)... Thanks to the boycotts, many of the protesters have been killed or mysteriously 'disappeared'...

Interesting stuff...

 

[Nik]

Reports of many dead overnight...

 

[sealybobo]

Wow...reports of Iranian civilians attacking Basij camps. Apparently its a backlash from them shooting the protestors before.

This is what should have happened in 2000 and 2004 when Bush stole the 2 elections. Instead we sat on our computers and cried.

Iranians care more about their vote than we do. We are lazy.

 

[Nik]

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Very disturbing.

 

[rhodescholar]

Wow...reports of Iranian civilians attacking Basij camps. Apparently its a backlash from them shooting the protestors before.

This is what should have happened in 2000 and 2004 when Bush stole the 2 elections. Instead we sat on our computers and cried.

Iranians care more about their vote than we do. We are lazy.

Ugh, Bush "stole" the election, Israel "stole" the land...hysterical that it is always the socialist left - those supporting theft from others' fore their hard work - who complain the loudest about these alleged "thefts."

 

[rhodescholar]

Ahmadinejad won the election fair and square.

But young thugs and criminals have taken to the streets to spread violence.

Most likely the CIA and Israel are creating and funding the protests.

Total. Fucking. Idiot. Moron. Troll. Flushed.

 

[sealybobo]

Wow...reports of Iranian civilians attacking Basij camps. Apparently its a backlash from them shooting the protestors before.

This is what should have happened in 2000 and 2004 when Bush stole the 2 elections. Instead we sat on our computers and cried.

Iranians care more about their vote than we do. We are lazy.

Ugh, Bush "stole" the election, Israel "stole" the land...hysterical that it is always the socialist left - those supporting theft from others' fore their hard work - who complain the loudest about these alleged "thefts."

Really, how about your side and all their blabbering about ACORN!!!

But you are right. The people who get robbed usually yell the loudest.

 

[Nik]

Guys....seriously. I'm posting videos and pics of people being killed and you want to turn this into a partisan pissing match?

Take it to another thread please.

 

[rhodescholar]

Really, how about your side and all their blabbering about ACORN!!!

But you are right. The people who get robbed usually yell the loudest.

I am conservative, voted for McCain, and accepted his loss. I didn't spend 5 months trying to fight it in the courts. Acorn did not cause McCain to lose, but they did use the names of dead people on the voter rolls, amongst other things.

This is what is makes me laugh at the left, when they lose, someone cheated, but when a conservative loses, "that's what should have happened, and the election was flawless."

Back to the topic, if nothing else, I hope the iranians kill every POS Basij - who the media seems unwilling to point out is primarily made up of imported palestinians to do the dirty muscle work - that they can.

If the US won't invade, at least they should arm the civilians so that they can take on the Basij on equal footing. The iranian army is unlikely to get actively involved, so its really a street fight between the imported palestinians and the freedom loving iranians being attacked.

Also interesting how this could never happen in the US, given the level of weaponry already in possession of the public. Hopefully, the next time the gun-control idiots think of screeching for more laws and restrictions, they might remember situations like this, where an awful dictatorship is always willing to attack an unarmed civilian pop - until the civvies arm themselves...

 

[L.K.Eder]

Really, how about your side and all their blabbering about ACORN!!!

But you are right. The people who get robbed usually yell the loudest.

I am conservative, voted for McCain, and accepted his loss. I didn't spend 5 months trying to fight it in the courts. Acorn did not cause McCain to lose, but they did use the names of dead people on the voter rolls, amongst other things.

This is what is makes me laugh at the left, when they lose, someone cheated, but when a conservative loses, "that's what should have happened, and the election was flawless."

Back to the topic, if nothing else, I hope the iranians kill every POS Basij - who the media seems unwilling to point out is primarily made up of imported palestinians to do the dirty muscle work - that they can.

If the US won't invade, at least they should arm the civilians so that they can take on the Basij on equal footing. The iranian army is unlikely to get actively involved, so its really a street fight between the imported palestinians and the freedom loving iranians being attacked.

Also interesting how this could never happen in the US, given the level of weaponry already in possession of the public. Hopefully, the next time the gun-control idiots think of screeching for more laws and restrictions, they might remember situations like this, where an awful dictatorship is always willing to attack an unarmed civilian pop - until the civvies arm themselves...

Back that one up!

 

[sealybobo]

Really, how about your side and all their blabbering about ACORN!!!

But you are right. The people who get robbed usually yell the loudest.

I am conservative, voted for McCain, and accepted his loss. I didn't spend 5 months trying to fight it in the courts. Acorn did not cause McCain to lose, but they did use the names of dead people on the voter rolls, amongst other things.

This is what is makes me laugh at the left, when they lose, someone cheated, but when a conservative loses, "that's what should have happened, and the campaign was flawless."

Back to the topic, if nothing else, I wish the iranians kill every POS Basij - who, funny enough, the media seems unwilling to point out is primarily made up of imported palestinians to do the dirty muscle work - that they can.

If the US own't invade, at least they should arm the civilians so that they can take on the Basij on equal footing. The army likely won't get actively involved, so its really a street fight between the imported palestinians and the freedom loving iranians who are being attacked.

Also interesting how this could never happen in the US, given the level of weaponry already in possession of the public. Hopefully, the next time the gun-control idiots think of screeching for more laws and restrictions, they might remember situations where this, an awful dictatorship is always happy to take on an unarmed civilian pop- until the civvies arm themselves...

Yes, McCain lost, no question about it. No need to spend any time in court or protesting that loss.

ACORN ='S VOTER FRAUD Not even actually because it was ACORN employees who turned in fraudulent registrations and they never actually got processed or registered.

FLORIDA & OHIO = ELECTION FRAUD

And the Iranians have more balls than we do. They at least protest when their election is stolen. I just go online and cry and you actually defend our democracy being hijacked.

 

[sealybobo]

Guys....seriously. I'm posting videos and pics of people being killed and you want to turn this into a partisan pissing match?

Take it to another thread please.

Video's and clips of people being killed. Oh my.

I'm just impressed because they are standing up for what they believe in. What's it called, "civil disobediance"?

And they are making Amadenijad look corrupt. He loves to come to America and act so cool and in control. And arrogant. Well now he must be embarrassed. He loves to call America out for our flaws.

I would love to see some gays protesting. But that's impossible because Iran has no gays.

 

[Sunni Man]

Ahmadinejad won the election fair and square.

But young thugs and criminals have taken to the streets to spread violence.

Most likely the CIA and Israel are creating and funding the protests.

Total. Fucking. Idiot. Moron. Troll. Flushed.

What's the matter Rhodes?

Can't stand the Truth!!!!

 

[Sunni Man]

Ahmadinejad is a true Iranian patriot and refuses to bow down to Israel and the West.

I only wish America had leaders of his caliber running this country.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Ahmadinejad is a true Iranian patriot and refuses to bow down to Israel and the West.

I only wish America had leaders of his caliber running this country.

No, you REALLY don't wish that. If we did have our own "Imanutjob" in charge, there wouldn't be a middle east to speak of. Just a land of glass and oil bereft of inhabitants.

 

[Tech_Esq]

What's the latest? I'm behind a content filter and twitter is blocked.

 

[Sunni Man]

Ahmadinejad is refered to as a nutjob by the west because #1 he doesn't believe in the Holocaust.

Heck, half of the world denies the Holohoax nonsense story.

And #2, he want's his country to do nuclear.

I would venture to say, that almost every leader of every nation has a desire for their country to become nuclear.

 

[Tech_Esq]

Ahmadinejad is refered to as a nutjob by the west because #1 he doesn't believe in the Holocaust.

Heck, half of the world denies the Holohoax nonsense story.

And #2, he want's his country to do nuclear.

I would venture to say, that almost every leader of every nation has a desire for their country to become nuclear.

Why does half the world deny the holocaust?

Why does "almost every leader of every nation" want nuclear weapons?

I was gonna say more, but I'll start there.

 

[Nik]

What's the latest? I'm behind a content filter and twitter is blocked.

Fewer and fewer amounts of information coming out of the country. Iranian government is creating false twitter accounts. Lots of rumors going around, hard to tell whats true and whats false.

That being said, as much as I can tell there were massive rallies today. I heard that pro-Mousavi and pro-Ahmadinejad rallies were timed for similar times/places (by state media to create conflict). I don't know what the result of this was, reports from today seem to be mostly peaceful. That being said, there are more and more videos coming out, some today have been really brutal. Pictures of people dying on camera and the like, its pretty horrific.

Some tweets that Sullivan has aggregated:

we told everybody to get out and leave dorms. but most of the student got no where to go & no relatives in Tehran.

it looks they are going to attack dorms again! IRG's chopper just passed by Yousefabad. there is noting left to destroy over there!

a state TV employee: Gun shooting sound is heard near Jaame jam building

confirmed by farsi twitters: around 2000 basiji is now standing in front of dorms.

Mousavi supporters are having "Calmness will beat the bullets" placards and standing near TV/Radio station's mosque.

NEWS: Mousavi supporters moving towards IRIB News Network HQ. 8 ppl confirmed killed

more than 150,000 people are demostrating to Tajrish Sq.Basiji forces are ready to attack / in Tehran

they are searching for Dr Yazdi , a political activist

Basij are wearing civilian clothing. Do not mix them up with protestors!!


Police is going to houses and seizing satellite receivers.

Qazvin Uni kids right now tore up their exam papers and stopped the exams

BBCPersian has just gone black. [Shiraz]

Mousavi said he is ready for a live show at IRIB (Iran TV). do u think they will let him do that. No way.

IRNN : Guardian Council "revocation of the result of the election is a possibility"

At first Arabs sent their congrats to AhmadiNejad very fast but now their newspapers are turning on him.

I'm hearing LOUD shouts (Allaho Akbar/DownWithDictator) from the street. There should be a struggle. My wife is going to check

The most famous-legal-Iranian singer(Shajarian)said "TV has no right to play my music.I've not sang them for Ah.Nej."

Many have said my username is long. I'm sorry guys, I didn't mean to be political at the time I created this account.

Gmail and Yahoo messenger is filtered too. They are blocking all the communication means.

For those of you who don't know, the rally is in Jameh Jam.

Rally is on. Silent, calm, and peaceful. This is what we all want! Thanks for everyone who's there, and who's watching!

my cousin in tehran, a girl of 29, was beaten with batten in her legs and can't participate today because she can't walk

Masood just called (he's OK), his laptop is destroyed & unfortunately gov intelligent found and arrest Reza at shariati Hospital.

Ashora platoons now moving from valiasr toward National Tv staion. mousavi's supporters are already there. my father is out there!

eyewitness: The crowd is from Mirdamad upto Park Saayi. (That's huge!!)

Eyewitness Live: More ppl have joined, walking on Valiasr. packed from Mirdaamad upto Park, moving towards north.

everyone! I'm reporting pro-mousavi rally up valiasr to Jaam-e-jam!! Obvious I'm not trying to discourage anyone!

There is conflict in front of TV station

DO NOT RT anything U read from "NEW" tweeters, gvmt spreading misinfo

Security forces opening twitter accounts 2 pose as protestors n spread disinformation

24 newspapers were closed down in iran to stop the true reflection of the recent events.

Iran has banned all foreign journalists from reporting on the sts.

State-TV is repeatedly telling people to go to Mousavi's protest in Valiasr Sq. One can only imagine what their plan is. (

state TV is now requesting people (armed forces) to go to valiasr st and protest against the outlaws & criminals! (people)

The News Channel of Iran just announced that neither Mousavi nor his supporters will participate in today's protest in Vali Asr square.

Another source confirmed: "11 dead yesterday in Rasoul Hospital"

gmail blocked tooo( i heard in Velenjak & Farmanie they assemblage satellites from ppl homes

yesterday my friend saw a girl that fell into street and a guardians stands beside her and shoot into her leg (jenah st)

unconfirmed rumours - army generals arrested - many rumours of coupdetat by army

rumour spreading Tehran - Army Generals have met in secret - Army considering position

his family beaten seriously and brother taken away - house destroyed

Saeid Hajarian - rumour - arrested last night

The girl that was taken away at 2 AM in Tehran was Shiva Nazaragahi

NEWS: Girl that was taken 2AM; It is unclear whether the agents really were intelligence agents or lying.

Woman says ppl knocking on her door 2 AM saying they were intelligence agents, took her daughter

are hearing that all foreigner visas are being cancelled by gov

Also of note:

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16 Jun 2009 12:56 pm

Grand Ayatollah Montazeri Takes A Stand
The reformist cleric in Qom, and once the designated successor to Khomeini, issues this statement. It may buttress the resistance's claim that they represent the Islamic revoltuion and the regime represents a coup:

In the name of God

People of Iran

These last days, we have witnessed the lively efforts of you brothers and sisters, old and young alike, from any social category, for the 10th presidential elections.

Our youth, hoping to see their rightful will fulfilled, came on the scene and waited patiently. This was the greatest occasion for the government’s officials to bond with their people.

But unfortunately, they used it in the worst way possible. Declaring results that no one in their right mind can believe, and despite all the evidence of crafted results, and to counter people protestations, in front of the eyes of the same nation who carried the weight of a revolution and 8 years of war, in front of the eyes of local and foreign reporters, attacked the children of the people with astonishing violence. And now they are attempting a purge, arresting intellectuals, political opponents and Scientifics.

Now, based on my religious duties, I will remind you :

1- A legitimate state must respect all points of view. It may not oppress all critical views. I fear that this lead to the lost of people’s faith in Islam.

2- Given the current circumstances, I expect the government to take all measures to restore people’s confidence. Otherwise, as I have already said, a government not respecting people’s vote has no religious or political legitimacy.

3- I invite everyone, specially the youth, to continue reclaiming their dues in calm, and not let those who want to associate this movement with chaos succeed.

4- I ask the police and army personals not to “sell their religion”, and beware that receiving orders will not excuse them before god. Recognize the protesting youth as your children. Today censor and cutting telecommunication lines can not hide the truth.

I pray for the greatness of the Iranian people.

Are people actually interested in this? I am happy to aggregate information, but it really seems like, sadly, only a few people give a shit about whats going on over there.