Iran: Playtime is Over.

[Ringo]

This is perfect 24 part miniseries

 

[Zavulon]

A complicated German series called "Dark" is a good watch, if you can follow all the character's thru various ages and different years entered.

Sorry, my German is too bad to watch series, and even lesser to follow all the characters.
First season of Pluribus was great. Pretty insight in American mindset. No really new ideas, but existed ideas mixed in nearly perfect cocktail.

Thanks.

My pleasure.

Iranians can look out their windows and see the truth.

And what do they see looking out their windows? Foreigners trying to kill them and their own Army, defending them?

Depends how you look at it.
If the mullahs think they can hang tough and keep terrorizing the population until Trump says okay we're done for now, but if you don't behave we'll be back. That might be one outcome, but I doubt Trump will end the blockade until Iran surrenders. Just my opinion.

Previous time when America was f#cked that cute, was Vietnam. And negotiations to end Vietnam war took four years. Given lesser intellectual skills of the current administration, I'd make a suggestion that conflict will continue for longer time and will cause much deeper economic crisis (both in the world and in America). So, Trump will just give this hot potato to the next POTUS.

I thought you were smarter than that. How does Iran end Trump's blockade? Without revenue Iran has nothing.

They can take revenue not only for selling their oil, but for example, for keeping the strait closed, or for destroyed (or distracted) American ships, or as result of blackmail of their undefended neighbours, like "Pay us, or we will destroy your de-salination plants and energy infrastructure".

 

[Independent thinker]

As anyone with a brain knew Iran will never bend the knee. The only option left is to bomb them into oblivion. The sole purpose of war is to destroy the enemy or destroy their will to fight. Period. Iran has been damaged but not destroyed, and they are still playing games.


Playtime is over. Destroy Iran completely until they quit and unconditionally surrender.


Discuss.

Nothing to discuss. You're right.

 

[kyzr]

Sorry, my German is too bad to watch series, and even lesser to follow all the characters.
First season of Pluribus was great. Pretty insight in American mindset. No really new ideas, but existed ideas mixed in nearly perfect cocktail.

Don't you get "dubbed" movies and series? That Russian movie I saw (Attraction) was dubbed in English, except all the writings seen are still in Russian. "Dark" should be dubbed in Russian for Russians.

And what do they see looking out their windows? Foreigners trying to kill them and their own Army, defending them?

Nope, just the opposite, Americans trying to free them and their own Army/IRGC killing them.

Previous time when America was f#cked that cute, was Vietnam. And negotiations to end Vietnam war took four years. Given lesser intellectual skills of the current administration, I'd make a suggestion that conflict will continue for longer time and will cause much deeper economic crisis (both in the world and in America). So, Trump will just give this hot potato to the next POTUS.

VN was different than Iran. VN was not a "state sponsor of terrorism" like Iran is. Iran is a serious danger to the region.

They can take revenue not only for selling their oil, but for example, for keeping the strait closed, or for destroyed (or distracted) American ships, or as result of blackmail of their undefended neighbours, like "Pay us, or we will destroy your de-salination plants and energy infrastructure".

1. Iran is not selling oil, none.
2. No one is (or very few are) paying their toll to cross Hormuz.
3. What "destroyed or distracted US ships"?
4. No one is paying blackmail, Iran's missiles and drones are being shot down. But just imagine if Iran had nuclear weapons to threaten everyone with.

So nothing can stop Trumps blockade of Iran. If Iran wants to implode, it will be terrible to see.

 

[Zavulon]

Don't you get "dubbed" movies and series?

We do. But I don't like them. Sometimes, as with "El refugio atómico"/"Billionaires bunker" I watched it twice - first in English, to get some kind logical line, and then in original Spanish, to get emotional/phonetical line.

That Russian movie I saw (Attraction) was dubbed in English, except all the writings seen are still in Russian.

And you lost a lot of information. One can get pleasure from watching dubbed movie, as from f#cking a good sexdoll. But a soulless doll can't give a real pleasure of understanding.

"Dark" should be dubbed in Russian for Russians.

Yep. But in Russian translation some of information was removed intentionally (as a part of state's censorship) some lost unintentionally (because a lot of things in German can't be translated in Russian). May be, I'll watch it in English.

Nope, just the opposite, Americans trying to free them and their own Army/IRGC killing them.

They don't believe you, and they have pretty good reasons for it.

VN was different than Iran. VN was not a "state sponsor of terrorism" like Iran is.

It was a "vanguard of communism" and as a stupid label it's neither worse nor better than "sponsor of terrorism". And, of course, all Great Powers are sponsors of terrorism (especially the USA).

Iran is a serious danger to the region.

America and Israel are much more serious danger.

1. Iran is not selling oil, none.

They do. And now they sell smaller amounts for larger price.

2. No one is (or very few are) paying their toll to cross Hormuz.

Not their problem.

3. What "destroyed or distracted US ships"?

Every US ship, participating in blockade of Hormuz strait, is not participating in deblockade of Taiwan. Say nothing about US ships Iran will destroy.

4. No one is paying blackmail, Iran's missiles and drones are being shot down.

It's simply not true.

But just imagine if Iran had nuclear weapons to threaten everyone with.

So what? As I said - limited amount of nukes gives only Minimal Deterrence, i.e. insurance from elimination of the state.

So nothing can stop Trumps blockade of Iran.

America can. Like Congress can impeach him, or ordinary Americans can kill him.
Or international community can make another Armed Neutrality Alliance to finish this blockade and fight American pirates.

 

[candycorn]

As anyone with a brain knew Iran will never bend the knee. The only option left is to bomb them into oblivion. The sole purpose of war is to destroy the enemy or destroy their will to fight. Period. Iran has been damaged but not destroyed, and they are still playing games.


Playtime is over. Destroy Iran completely until they quit and unconditionally surrender.


Discuss.

Yet your blob is still kicking the can down the road....

How’s that make you feel?

Discuss.

 

[kyzr]

Iranians don't believe you, and they have pretty good reasons for it.

Yes they do, their government just 40,000.

VN was a "vanguard of communism" and as a stupid label it's neither worse nor better than "sponsor of terrorism". And, of course, all Great Powers are sponsors of terrorism (especially the USA).

...or the MIC and Howard Hughes owned everyone back then.

America and Israel are much more serious danger.

True, but only if you're a terrorist.

They do sell oil. And now they sell smaller amounts for larger price.

Bullshit.

Every US ship, participating in blockade of Hormuz strait, is not participating in deblockade of Taiwan. Say nothing about US ships Iran will destroy.

Fantasy.

It's simply not true.

No one is paying blackmail to Iran. Kharg island is almost full, soon Iran will be losing oil wells from being shut down.

So what? As I said - limited amount of nukes gives only Minimal Deterrence, i.e. insurance from elimination of the state.

Iran just can't be trusted with nuclear weapons.

America can. Like Congress can impeach him, or ordinary Americans can kill him.
Or international community can make another Armed Neutrality Alliance to finish this blockade and fight American pirates.

None of those will stop the blockade, if Trump drops, Vance will keep the blockade.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Yet your blob is still kicking the can down the road....

How’s that make you feel?

Discuss.

So, you want us to go in with boots on the ground and kill as many Iranians as we can. Good to know!

 

[Concerned American]

But the ayatollahs are not fighting. They are depending on Democrats to defeat America for them.

Of course. They've become accustomed to democrat appeasement and uninformed democrat responses supporting their terrorism on boards like this one.

 

[candycorn]

Don't you get "dubbed" movies and series? That Russian movie I saw (Attraction) was dubbed in English, except all the writings seen are still in Russian. "Dark" should be dubbed in Russian for Russians.

Nope, just the opposite, Americans trying to free them and their own Army/IRGC killing them.

VN was different than Iran. VN was not a "state sponsor of terrorism" like Iran is. Iran is a serious danger to the region.

1. Iran is not selling oil, none.
2. No one is (or very few are) paying their toll to cross Hormuz.
3. What "destroyed or distracted US ships"?
4. No one is paying blackmail, Iran's missiles and drones are being shot down. But just imagine if Iran had nuclear weapons to threaten everyone with.

So nothing can stop Trumps blockade of Iran. If Iran wants to implode, it will be terrible to see.

LOL....

Iran’s Covert Oil Trade Persists Despite U.S. Blockade | OilPrice.com

Iran is sustaining crude exports through the Strait of Hormuz by deploying dark tanker operations, signal spoofing, and offshore transfers to bypass the U.S. naval blockade.

oilprice.com

Good to see that it’s “not about oil”....

So, you want us to go in with boots on the ground and kill as many Iranians as we can. Good to know!

No. I didn’t want us to be there in the first place.

But you said “Playtime’s over”.....it seems like your blob is still shitting in the sandbox.

 

[WelfareQueen]

LOL....

Iran’s Covert Oil Trade Persists Despite U.S. Blockade | OilPrice.com

Iran is sustaining crude exports through the Strait of Hormuz by deploying dark tanker operations, signal spoofing, and offshore transfers to bypass the U.S. naval blockade.

oilprice.com

Good to see that it’s “not about oil”....

No. I didn’t want us to be there in the first place.

But you said “Playtime’s over”.....it seems like your blob is still shitting in the sandbox.

So, you want Iran to have nukes then. Good to know.

 

[candycorn]

So, you want Iran to have nukes then. Good to know.

Apparently your blob does since he’s currently not doing anything about it.

I’d prefer to let Israel do it. That wouldn’t have created the distraction your blob needed though....so 13 Americans have died and hundreds of more injured for no reason.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Apparently your blob does since he’s currently not doing anything about it.

I’d prefer to let Israel do it. That wouldn’t have created the distraction your blob needed though....so 13 Americans have died and hundreds of more injured for no reason.

So, what would you do differently? Isn't Israel an evil, genocidal regime to you Dims? What is the Dim plan?

 

[candycorn]

So, what would you do differently?

Not send Americans over there to do what Israel could do on their own.
I pointed out on another thread how after 6 weeks into the war, the Treasury Secreatry announced that he was going to ramp up sanctions. They weren’t ramped up before we went in.... Why the hell not?

When you start decapitating foreign governments, it leaves your leaders exposed since that rubicon has been crossed. So that was a terrible idea.

The bombing of civilians...the silly assed threats to wipe out a whole civilization....the jingoism after the alleged cease-fire. All dumb moves.

Isn't Israel an evil, genocidal regime to you Dims?

No...but then again I’m not a democrat.

What is the Dim plan?

You’d have to ask a democrat.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Not send Americans over there to do what Israel could do on their own.
I pointed out on another thread how after 6 weeks into the war, the Treasury Secreatry announced that he was going to ramp up sanctions. They weren’t ramped up before we went in.... Why the hell not?

When you start decapitating foreign governments, it leaves your leaders exposed since that rubicon has been crossed. So that was a terrible idea.

The bombing of civilians...the silly assed threats to wipe out a whole civilization....the jingoism after the alleged cease-fire. All dumb moves.

No...but then again I’m not a democrat.

You’d have to ask a democrat.

Not a Dim? Marxist, am I right.

 

[kyzr]

LOL....Good to see that it’s “not about oil”....

No worries. The US is collecting Iranian tankers, no matter where they are.

US interdicts stateless sanctioned tanker sailing from Iran to China

U.S. forces boarded the M/T Tifani, a stateless sanctioned crude oil tanker tied to Iran, marking the second naval interdiction in as many days.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Zavulon]

No worries. The US is collecting Iranian tankers, no matter where they are.

US interdicts stateless sanctioned tanker sailing from Iran to China

U.S. forces boarded the M/T Tifani, a stateless sanctioned crude oil tanker tied to Iran, marking the second naval interdiction in as many days.

www.foxnews.com

As I said earlier - it's piracy. And it's a game for more than one side. America is destroying the system of international trade, from which it was the most benefited.

 

[candycorn]

Not a Dim? Marxist, am I right.

Nope. Not even close.

 

[22lcidw]

Nope. Not even close.

You are a Progressive Socialist Communist Omar now. Senator Omar Moulton went lovey dovey with the Ayatollahs as I saw an hour ago. On the Republican side, this conflict was touted to last less than 4 weeks went to 4 to 6 weeks and now is in its 54th day or so. Military incursions in history do not go perfectly. Now high prices are going to derail the November election for Republicans along with the war if this is not handled correctly. Senator Omar Whitehorse I just saw spieling on the Green Energy agenda again. We are years overdue for a multiyear calming of the nation, and we are being phuked over y our own political class.

 

[kyzr]

As I said earlier - it's piracy. And it's a game for more than one side. America is destroying the system of international trade, from which it was the most benefited.

Its not piracy, "asymmetrical warfare" like terrorists use on everyone else.
There re either rules for everyone, or there are no rules.
America has the largest economy, which business partners all benefit from.
Nothing is being destroyed, except possibly Iran's oil based economy.