Iran Is Crying Uncle

I don't have much on this, I think it just happened.

Question: Should we make peace with Iran or should we destroy them completely?


Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi suggested Monday that one phone call from President Donald Trump could “pave the way for a return to diplomacy” in the Middle East.

“If President Trump is genuine about diplomacy and interested in stopping this war, next steps are consequential. Israel must halt its aggression, and absent a total cessation of military aggression against us, our responses will continue,” he wrote in a post on X. “It takes one phone call from Washington to muzzle someone like Netanyahu. That may pave the way for a return to diplomacy.”
 
I don't have much on this, I think it just happened.

Question: Should we make peace with Iran or should we destroy them completely?


Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi suggested Monday that one phone call from President Donald Trump could “pave the way for a return to diplomacy” in the Middle East.

“If President Trump is genuine about diplomacy and interested in stopping this war, next steps are consequential. Israel must halt its aggression, and absent a total cessation of military aggression against us, our responses will continue,” he wrote in a post on X. “It takes one phone call from Washington to muzzle someone like Netanyahu. That may pave the way for a return to diplomacy.”

Iran is on the ropes. Let Israel finish it
 
Actually, the story I got was that Iran's air defenses were down because they were under peace talks with the USA, and countries have come to expect that the USA never strikes during peace talks, in fact, they use peace talks to buy time.

Iran never expected to be hit while the peace talks were on-going.
Why would they ever be down? That doesn't make sense.
 
Actually, the story I got was that Iran's air defenses were down because they were under peace talks with the USA

Maybe. Says who, maybe that is the propaganda coming out of Tehran. Where does this narrative come from?



countries have come to expect that the USA never strikes during peace talks

It wasn't the US was it? I thought it was Israel that attacked.



I'm not saying what was true and what wasn't. But Iran is not our friend and not above saying things that make the US look bad. And if you're in a war it ain't smart to lower your air defenses at any time.
 
Iran is on the ropes. Let Israel finish it

They can't without our help. They need our BBB's.

If Tehran refuses, and the Israelis have no way of sabotaging Fordow from the inside, the United States should assist Israel in eliminating the facility.

While Israel possesses lighter bunker-buster bombs only Washington possesses the 30,000-pound massive ordnance penetrator (MOP) and B-2 stealth aircraft capable of delivering the MOP, which could decisively eliminate the plant.

So then Trump is going to get us involved in another middle east conflict.

Just don't you Republicans ever cry again about Obama's illegal wars or Biden's illegal wars. Don't tell us you are non interventionists. Don't tell us you care about the debt. You're all just complete hypocrites.
 
Everything Iran does is lies and deception.
Israel just exposed them in a very bad way - of course they want "peace" now.
Stop hitting them now would only mean more of the same, and highly-highly likely they are already setting up ways for their proxy military - Hamas and militant Palestinians to retaliate.
What needs to happen is for Iran to lose all incentive to continue their war against Israel. Only way for that - is the price they pay is overwhelmingly worse than any gains they make for lobbing a few missiles at them.
 
Iran doesn't have air superiority.
They are epically foolish to try and build nukes.
They will be bombed into submission.
 
They can't without our help. They need our BBB's.

If Tehran refuses, and the Israelis have no way of sabotaging Fordow from the inside, the United States should assist Israel in eliminating the facility.

While Israel possesses lighter bunker-buster bombs only Washington possesses the 30,000-pound massive ordnance penetrator (MOP) and B-2 stealth aircraft capable of delivering the MOP, which could decisively eliminate the plant.

So then Trump is going to get us involved in another middle east conflict.

Just don't you Republicans ever cry again about Obama's illegal wars or Biden's illegal wars. Don't tell us you are non interventionists. Don't tell us you care about the debt. You're all just complete hypocrites.

If US involvement brings down the Mullahs and allows the Iranian people to vote for once free and clear on who they want to run the country, that would be a bad thing?

The problem with the past few interventions is we haven't gotten a true resolution to the conflicts in question.
 
They can't without our help. They need our BBB's.

If Tehran refuses, and the Israelis have no way of sabotaging Fordow from the inside, the United States should assist Israel in eliminating the facility.

While Israel possesses lighter bunker-buster bombs only Washington possesses the 30,000-pound massive ordnance penetrator (MOP) and B-2 stealth aircraft capable of delivering the MOP, which could decisively eliminate the plant.

So then Trump is going to get us involved in another middle east conflict.

Just don't you Republicans ever cry again about Obama's illegal wars or Biden's illegal wars. Don't tell us you are non interventionists. Don't tell us you care about the debt. You're all just complete hypocrites.
What's your position? let Iran have the nuclear warheads?

Invading Libya was much much different than invading Iran.
Libya really wasn't a threat. But, go with whatever floats your boat.
 
I guess it is expensive to keep on full alert your defenses 100% at the ready 24/7 even when you think there is no danger there.

Could be. But I kinda think the people running those AD systems are probably being paid anyway. It's a bit hard to accept that the Iranians turned off their AD and sent their people home for awhile. LOL, how'd you like to be the top brass that gave that order?
 
They can't without our help. They need our BBB's.

If Tehran refuses, and the Israelis have no way of sabotaging Fordow from the inside, the United States should assist Israel in eliminating the facility.

While Israel possesses lighter bunker-buster bombs only Washington possesses the 30,000-pound massive ordnance penetrator (MOP) and B-2 stealth aircraft capable of delivering the MOP, which could decisively eliminate the plant.

So then Trump is going to get us involved in another middle east conflict.

Just don't you Republicans ever cry again about Obama's illegal wars or Biden's illegal wars. Don't tell us you are non interventionists. Don't tell us you care about the debt. You're all just complete hypocrites.
I could see Israel pulling an Entebbe style raid to destroy the centrifuges and contaminate the plant so it can never be used again. It would be a high risk/high reward mission that might cost the lives of every participant.
 
Could be. But I kinda think the people running those AD systems are probably being paid anyway. It's a bit hard to accept that the Iranians turned off their AD and sent their people home for awhile. LOL, how'd you like to be the top brass that gave that order?

Iran probably ran out of the cash Ears gave them
 
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I see the lefties are staying away from this thread. Licking their wounds over their islamic fundamentalist jew-hater partners getting their asses whooped. :badgrin:

It's entirely predictable.

Iran is staggering as Israel has it's way
 
What's your position? let Iran have the nuclear warheads?

Invading Libya was much much different than invading Iran.
Libya really wasn't a threat. But, go with whatever floats your boat.
HE probably thinks the Kerry agreement was a good deal.
 

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