Iran Is Already Charging Tolls To Ships Passing Through The Straight Of Hormuz. This War Has Been An Unmitigated Disaster For Trump And The U.S.

[Alicia J]

Nobody except Iran (and IMDB trolls) is claiming that the tolls are actually being paid.

What happened to "no ship can get through because they cannot get insurance!"

If they cannot afford the insurance, how can they afford the tolls?

TDS makes it difficult for them to keep their lies straight.

Poor MAGA man is denying reality again....how pitiful.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Iran. Crypto payment.

They don’t have a government. So who the hell is even in a position to not only demand these tolls but collect them. They don’t have a Navy. They lost their island. Some fanatics may still be on the shores but they’re out of food and ammo. So again, how are they going to enforce this toll?

 

[struth]

I can. I task you to look for yourself via google. I have faith in you!

Then why don’t you?

 

[struth]

Verified reports mean NOTHING to you.

Mike Pence testified that Trump tried to steal the 2020 election. Did you care? NO.

Gotcha so you can’t tell us, who verified it? How? Did they speak to the people that paid? Who were they and how much?

Why are you deflecting?

 

[Winston]

Loyd's list did not verify that tolls have been paid. They just said that "it is understood."

Your thehill.com article is about Trump charging tolls, not the Iranians. Here one of the few Dem Congressfolk who sounds literate cries about that possibility:

This is what happens when, first, you don't read the linked source. And second, you don't really understand the source. Lloyd's List specializes in shipping. It has been doing so for almost THREE HUNDRED YEARS. You know anyone in the maritime shipping business, you can bet they know Lloyd's List.

Yes, no ship can transit through the Strait without insurance. And I got to be honest, I don't see any ships steaming in that direction and I don't see any insurance being sold for ships transiting the Strait. And these tolls, they are only making matters worse. There are hundreds, probably more than a thousand, ships stuck there now. They have insurance, and paying a toll just might be considered ransom, throwing the cost to the insurer.

 

[egp320i]

Iran is charging tolls for ships to pass through the Straight Of Hormuz. And all Trump can do is cry about it some more.

Let's count the ways that Trump has lost this war...

1) Has there been regime change? NO

2) Has Iran been forced to give up their enriched uranium? NO

3) Has Iran been forced to give up their ballistic missiles program? NO

4) Has Iran been forced to give up their drones program? NO

5) Has Trump now given Iran a massive strategic advantage in the Middle East by blundering into this war and giving Iran total control of the Straight Of Hormuz and making Iran a more powerful adversary in the future? YES

6) Will Americans now be paying a fortune for gas for god knows how long? YES

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/09/iran-us-strait-of-hormuz-khamenei

And Panama lets ships go through for free.......right?

 

[leftwinger]

Who’s paid? And how much?

Nobody. It's all BoardStain talk. Pure Hogwash.

From AI (a fancier search engine) ***Iran is reportedly planning to charge a toll of up to $2 million per ship for passage through the Strait of Hormuz following a ceasefire agreement in April 2026, though no official confirmation has been issued

 

[frigidweirdo]

The west doesn't need ME oil. It has its own, including the largest reserves in the world with 300 billion barrels in Venezuela. I have no idea what Trump is doing. He is a ******* moron. Just so dumb. Unbelievable.

Well, the problem is that oil is a world wide thing. China needs oil, India needs oil, other countries need oil.

If oil prices go higher, they go higher in the US as well. The US cannot keep oil prices down in the US, but them being higher everywhere else, because as soon as the prices go up, money greedy people will start selling the oil abroad.

Let's look at facts:

The US is producing 13.66 million barrels of oil a day.
The US uses about 20 million barrels of oil a day.

The US needs to import about 6.33 million barrels of oil a day to function.

The US exports about 10.7 million barrels of oil a day.

So the US is exporting most of its oil.

The US imports about 7.9 million barrels of oil a day.

The math doesn't add up, but the exporting figure includes products that are made using oil, and I guess that when the US does this, it gets counted in the how many it uses category and then in the how many it exports category.

Anyway, the US needs oil.

The US imports 4-4.7 million barrels from Canada daily

Canada uses about 2.37 million barrels of oil daily.
Canada produces about 5.13 million barrels of oil daily.

So, they have an excess of 3 million barrels but the US needs double that.

So, the problem is the US doesn't produce enough, Canada does (for itself) but not enough for Canada and the US combined.

So the US needs to import oil. The higher the oil prices, the more it hurts the US. If they have to import 6 million barrels a day, and each barrel costs $100, that's $600,000,000 million a day or $219 billion a year. If the oil is at $50, the US saves over $100 billion a year.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Another lie.

It's clear that the person whining about how others debate won't answer questions when it comes right down to it.

Her ideology was drawn from a horses ass after the horse consumed 50lbs of chocolate.

What can you say.

 

[HikerGuy83]

What facts have you provided? I’ll ask again who’s paid? How much?

Don't hold your breath.

These threads all pretty much run the same with the same howling.

It's all about attacking someone who is doing something about something....that they don't like.

And because they are still 100% butthurt over 2024, they latch on like barnacles.

But they are not as smart as barnacles.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Well, the problem is that oil is a world wide thing. China needs oil, India needs oil, other countries need oil.

There is oil other than from the middle east.

 

[leftwinger]

If they can get people to pay? Good for them?

They charged me $8000/yr to own a house in CA.//

 

[candycorn]

Iran is charging tolls for ships to pass through the Straight Of Hormuz. And all Trump can do is cry about it some more.

Let's count the ways that Trump has lost this war...

1) Has there been regime change? NO

2) Has Iran been forced to give up their enriched uranium? NO

3) Has Iran been forced to give up their ballistic missiles program? NO

4) Has Iran been forced to give up their drones program? NO

5) Has Trump now given Iran a massive strategic advantage in the Middle East by blundering into this war and giving Iran total control of the Straight Of Hormuz and making Iran a more powerful adversary in the future? YES

6) Will Americans now be paying a fortune for gas for god knows how long? YES

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/09/iran-us-strait-of-hormuz-khamenei

Even the right wing loons here have a very hard time selling anything positive that was gained by the tantrum.

 

[candycorn]

Iran has no Navy and doesn't pose much of a threat.

Just like before the war.

 

[Tyrion234]

Well, the problem is that oil is a world wide thing. China needs oil, India needs oil, other countries need oil.

If oil prices go higher, they go higher in the US as well. The US cannot keep oil prices down in the US, but them being higher everywhere else, because as soon as the prices go up, money greedy people will start selling the oil abroad.

Let's look at facts:

The US is producing 13.66 million barrels of oil a day.
The US uses about 20 million barrels of oil a day.

The US needs to import about 6.33 million barrels of oil a day to function.

The US exports about 10.7 million barrels of oil a day.

So the US is exporting most of its oil.

The US imports about 7.9 million barrels of oil a day.

The math doesn't add up, but the exporting figure includes products that are made using oil, and I guess that when the US does this, it gets counted in the how many it uses category and then in the how many it exports category.

Anyway, the US needs oil.

The US imports 4-4.7 million barrels from Canada daily

Canada uses about 2.37 million barrels of oil daily.
Canada produces about 5.13 million barrels of oil daily.

So, they have an excess of 3 million barrels but the US needs double that.

So, the problem is the US doesn't produce enough, Canada does (for itself) but not enough for Canada and the US combined.

So the US needs to import oil. The higher the oil prices, the more it hurts the US. If they have to import 6 million barrels a day, and each barrel costs $100, that's $600,000,000 million a day or $219 billion a year. If the oil is at $50, the US saves over $100 billion a year.

The math doesn’t add up in either of your hypothetical bs

 

[HikerGuy83]

Well, the problem is that oil is a world wide thing. China needs oil, India needs oil, other countries need oil.

If oil prices go higher, they go higher in the US as well. The US cannot keep oil prices down in the US, but them being higher everywhere else, because as soon as the prices go up, money greedy people will start selling the oil abroad.

Let's look at facts:

The US is producing 13.66 million barrels of oil a day.
The US uses about 20 million barrels of oil a day.

The US needs to import about 6.33 million barrels of oil a day to function.

The US exports about 10.7 million barrels of oil a day.

So the US is exporting most of its oil.

The US imports about 7.9 million barrels of oil a day.

The math doesn't add up, but the exporting figure includes products that are made using oil, and I guess that when the US does this, it gets counted in the how many it uses category and then in the how many it exports category.

The U.S. imports cheap refined products from various places. That is why there is almost no refining on the east coast anymore. They can't compete.

Well, the problem is that oil is a world wide thing. China needs oil, India needs oil, other countries need oil.

If oil prices go higher, they go higher in the US as well. The US cannot keep oil prices down in the US, but them being higher everywhere else, because as soon as the prices go up, money greedy people will start selling the oil abroad.

Let's look at facts:

The US is producing 13.66 million barrels of oil a day.
The US uses about 20 million barrels of oil a day.

The US needs to import about 6.33 million barrels of oil a day to function.

The US exports about 10.7 million barrels of oil a day.

So the US is exporting most of its oil.

The US imports about 7.9 million barrels of oil a day.

The math doesn't add up, but the exporting figure includes products that are made using oil, and I guess that when the US does this, it gets counted in the how many it uses category and then in the how many it exports category.

Anyway, the US needs oil.

The US imports 4-4.7 million barrels from Canada daily

Canada uses about 2.37 million barrels of oil daily.
Canada produces about 5.13 million barrels of oil daily.

So, they have an excess of 3 million barrels but the US needs double that.

So, the problem is the US doesn't produce enough, Canada does (for itself) but not enough for Canada and the US combined.

So the US needs to import oil. The higher the oil prices, the more it hurts the US. If they have to import 6 million barrels a day, and each barrel costs $100, that's $600,000,000 million a day or $219 billion a year. If the oil is at $50, the US saves over $100 billion a year.

Yeah.....1/10th of what we pay in interest on the national debt.

Oil was running 60/barrel and there are sources that can be turned on, but not a lot.

If Iran hold the strait hostage for too long, I see the U.S. doing a bombing campaign for about 50 miles inland to secure it.

Won't be pretty.

 

[candycorn]

Hubris is not in my vocabulary since I have to fight to survive...

You spend a lot of time on this board for someone who has to "fight to survive".

 

[HikerGuy83]

The math doesn’t add up in either of your hypothetical bs

He's right in that if he is talking about oil as in crude oil, there is a huge mix of refined products that come and go from the United States. That makes the crude numbers meaningless.

The question is...can the people who refine and sell to us....get oil.

 

[candycorn]

The U.S. imports cheap refined products from various places. That is why there is almost no refining on the east coast anymore. They can't compete.


Yeah.....1/10th of what we pay in interest on the national debt.

Oil was running 60/barrel and there are sources that can be turned on, but not a lot.

If Iran hold the strait hostage for too long, I see the U.S. doing a bombing campaign for about 50 miles inland to secure it.

Won't be pretty.

All the bombing hasn't opened the strait.

More bombing won't open the strait either.

The only thing that will is Iraqi style conquest which means thousands (if we're lucky-- tens of thousands if we're not) of dead American soldiers.

And then the American consumers get the honor of paying $3.50 a gallon instead of $4.00.

Worth it? I'm sure it is to you...you're hiding behind a keyboard.

 

[shockedcanadian]

You spend a lot of time on this board for someone who has to "fight to survive".

You have no idea. Consider yourself fortunate to be American.

Be warned though. First they came for the Socialist...