Iran Has Hit Far More U.S. Military Assets Than Previously Reported, Satellite Images Show

[Bad Bob]

Ridiculous excuses.

The fog of war.....even in the digital age.

 

[Kruska]

True, but since the Iranians were being uncooperative with our targeting specialists, our guys had to do the best they could with what intel available. The school was part of a military base and, IIRC, used to be a military admin building.

Right, maybe the US should ask the Iranian's to voluntarily help them to positively identify targets, so as to minimize civilian casualties and avoid war-crimes - you already applied for a permanent personal seat at the UN human rights commission.?

 

[gipper]

The fog of war.....even in the digital age.

Fvck that. Why is it war crimes are always excused as…hey it’s war?

If Iran or any nation did that to a US school, would you be so forgiving?

 

[Kruska]

If the birds were already in flight, there may not have been time to alter their targeting data.

Come on - any warring party is obligated to verify the legitimacy of a target BEFORE executing a strike.
Your honorable US loyalty, obviously challenges your judgement capability.

BTW - that kind of a "verification" in 1984 was the cause for a German Pershing I, to hit Paris instead of Prague during "Certain Fury 84" aka Reforger 84. You should have seen that bunch of senior NATO officials and officers running about like chickens that are about to face the chopper.

 

[Bad Bob]

Right, maybe the US should ask the Iranian's to voluntarily help them to positively identify targets, so as to minimize civilian casualties and avoid war-crimes - you already applied for a permanent personal seat at the UN human rights commission.?

Wouldn't the MAGAts whine that it'd be like General Milley calling the Chinese?

Besides, I wouldn't trust the Iranians. They'd just a likely give the coordinates of an empty barn.
OTOH, they might give targeting information on a church or girl's school for the PR effect. Hamas does it all the time; set up a mortar next to a church or hospital, shoot then run before the Israeli missile hits them.

 

[Bad Bob]

Come on - any warring party is obligated to verify the legitimacy of a target BEFORE executing a strike.
Your honorable US loyalty, obviously challenges your judgement capability.

BTW - that kind of a "verification" in 1984 was the cause for a German Pershing I, to hit Paris instead of Prague during "Certain Fury 84" aka Reforger 84. You should have seen that bunch of senior NATO officials and officers running about like chickens that are about to face the chopper.

I'm certain our military plays by the rules. I'm on so sure about the Trump's CIA. It was them who blew up the Venezuelan fishermen....and maybe a few drug smugglers.

 

[Bad Bob]

Fvck that. Why is it war crimes are always excused as…hey it’s war?

If Iran or any nation did that to a US school, would you be so forgiving?

We'd be even more pissed than the Iranians since they do crap like that on purpose.

 

[eagle1462010]

Come on - any warring party is obligated to verify the legitimacy of a target BEFORE executing a strike.
Your honorable US loyalty, obviously challenges your judgement capability.

BTW - that kind of a "verification" in 1984 was the cause for a German Pershing I, to hit Paris instead of Prague during "Certain Fury 84" aka Reforger 84. You should have seen that bunch of senior NATO officials and officers running about like chickens that are about to face the chopper.

A few missed targets out of over 20000 targets is a very good batting average

 

[gipper]

We'd be even more pissed than the Iranians since they do crap like that on purpose.

Lol. Dupe of the Zionist establishment.

 

[Bad Bob]

Lol. Dupe of the Zionist establishment.

Just an American military retiree. While Trump may suck Bibi's or MsB's cocks for money, our military does not.

 

[Kruska]

Wouldn't the MAGAts whine that it'd be like General Milley calling the Chinese?

MAGA's surely would. Democrat war-mongers just as well.

Besides, I wouldn't trust the Iranians. They'd just a likely give the coordinates of an empty barn.
OTOH, they might give targeting information on a church or girl's school for the PR effect. Hamas does it all the time; set up a mortar next to a church or hospital, shoot then run before the Israeli missile hits them.

Uhm... setting up a mortar or missile launcher "next" to a church or hospital - doesn't constitute a war crime nor defying International law. Striking that church or hospital - "factually" constitutes a war-crime though.

It's not an easy topic to judge about - factually even a "munitions room or command cell - in the basement of a hospital doesn't make it automatically a legitimate target but "could", and even then strict conditions need to be met - one can't just blow the hospital to smithereens - I spend a lot of years "having to study" that "heap" of regulations.

 

[Bad Bob]

MAGA's surely would. Democrat war-mongers just as well.

Uhm... setting up a mortar or missile launcher "next" to a church or hospital - doesn't constitute a war crime nor defying International law. Striking that church or hospital - "factually" constitutes a war-crime though.

It's not an easy topic to judge about - factually even a "munitions room or command cell - in the basement of a hospital doesn't make it automatically a legitimate target but "could", and even then strict conditions need to be met - one can't just blow the hospital to smithereens - I spend a lot of years "having to study" that "heap" of regulations.

Incorrect. Using a church, hospital or school as cover for a military operation is a war crime.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule39

“(3) PROTECTED PROPERTY.—The term ‘protected property’ means property specifically protected by the law of war (such as buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals, or places where the sick and wounded are collected), if such property is not being used for military purposes or is not otherwise a military objective. Such term includes objects properly identified by one of the distinctive emblems of the Geneva Conventions, but does not include civilian property that is a military objective...

...“(b) OFFENSES.—The following offenses shall be triable by military commission under this chapter at any time without limitation:
“ …
“(10) USING PROTECTED PROPERTY AS A SHIELD.—Any person subject to this chapter who positions, or otherwise takes advantage of the location of, protected property with the intent to shield a military objective from attack, or to shield, favor, or impede military operations, shall be punished as a military commission under this chapter may direct

 

[Jroc]

These MAGA dipshits ain't exactly working on their master's thesis, are they?

Neither are the traitors who spread spoon-fed, Iranian government propaganda as if we're fact and actually get excited by it

 

[Kruska]

Just an American military retiree. While Trump may suck Bibi's or MsB's cocks for money, our military does not.

Come on, Abu-Ghraib. Guantanamo etc. etc. and numerous actions in Iraq, Afghanistan down to Vietnam - already disapprove your conviction. Which doesn't out-rule that IDF war-crimes, Russian war-crimes in Ukraine, or e.g. those maybe committed by the IRGC, might be worse or just as bad.

Loads of militaries have participated in actions or ordered actions that can be considered to be war-crimes, even though I personally do not perceive them as such - after all "they" shot and tried to kill us first. (the classical conundrum). Legality of those wars or combat operations? - hey, I just acted upon orders of superiors or those of my government, whereby the military superiors or the latter will not hesitate to offer a sacrificial lamb.

You mentioned, "next" to a church..... not "in" a church or hospital. And as I had stated already - even if "in" a hospital there are a series or catalogues full with directives, "regulating" the attack size, impact and usage of means. on such a target BEFORE executing a strike. One can't just simply devastate/obliterate the target.

 

[gipper]

Neither are the traitors who spread spoon-fed, Iranian government propaganda as if we're fact and actually get excited by it

Lol.

 

[Bad Bob]

Come on, Abu-Ghraib. Guantanamo etc. etc. and numerous actions in Iraq, Afghanistan down to Vietnam - already disapprove your conviction. Which doesn't out-rule that IDF war-crimes, Russian war-crimes in Ukraine, or e.g. those maybe committed by the IRGC, might be worse or just as bad.

Loads of militaries have participated in actions or ordered actions that can be considered to be war-crimes, even though I personally do not perceive them as such - after all "they" shot and tried to kill us first. (the classical conundrum). Legality of those wars or combat operations? - hey, I just acted upon orders of superiors or those of my government, whereby the military superiors or the latter will not hesitate to offer a sacrificial lamb.

You mentioned, "next" to a church..... not "in" a church or hospital. And as I had stated already - even if "in" a hospital there are a series or catalogues full with directives, "regulating" the attack size, impact and usage of means. on such a target BEFORE executing a strike. One can't just simply devastate/obliterate the target.

Sure, it happens. The Russians are guilty of massacring innocent people walking the streets in Ukraine. Young men with high powered weapons.

The point being is that Western countries seek to follow the rules and minimize unnecessary loss of life while other nations, especially a terrorist nation like Iran, seek to maximize loss of innocent life to induce.....wait for it....terror.

That's why terrorists blow up civilian buses and shopping markets while western forces pick military targets.

 

[August West]

Neither are the traitors who spread spoon-fed, Iranian government propaganda as if we're fact and actually get excited by it

An example of that is where and what?

 

[Jroc]

An example of that is where and what?

The O.P....you came in late... Try to keep up

 

[Bad Bob]

The O.P....you came in late... Try to keep up

The OP is one person. America has 180M voters. Try to understand perspective. TIA

Again, the Iranian photos are most likely true and Trump can dispute them by producing the US satellite photos. He can try to doctor the photos, but if caught lying, Americans will prove they dislike liars.

The bottom line is that Trump isn't producing damage assessment photos for the American public. Why?

 

[Jroc]

The OP is one person. America has 180M voters. Try to understand perspective. TIA

Again, the Iranian photos are most likely true and Trump can dispute them by producing the US satellite photos. He can try to doctor the photos, but if caught lying, Americans will prove they dislike liars.

The bottom line is that Trump isn't producing damage assessment photos for the American public. Why?

Maybe you're Iranian propagandists as well we don't highlight with joy and Glee and satisfaction, Iranian State media released propaganda as fact that's traitorous are you an the Iranian stoodge?