IPPC’s global sea level rise estimates from 30 years ago:

[EMH]

Therefore, implying that such an impact would have the same result today would be a false analogy.

That is the kind of thing I spot a hell of a lot, not unlike using a "baseline" for what they say temperatures "should be" right in the Little Ice Age. And doing thing like this they are able to be both completely honest, and completely misleading at the same time.

When talking about science, a hell of a lot of data involved is of critical importance. When talking about sea level rise, probably the biggest is how much water is sequestered as ice at that time. That is why if you jumped back to say the Cretaceous some 67 mya, such an increase in temperatures would have almost no impact on sea levels. Because there were very few ice sheets on the planet. Antarctica was a semi-tropical environment, not what we know today. The onle glaciers would have been those at higher elevations.

All of that is 100% BS.

The definition of "ice age" is completely wrong.

There has never been a "tropical land" on an Earth pole, that is all laughable BS from Milankovich.


The 600 miles to the Pole law is absolute.

Can you find any land on Earth today not in ICE AGE within 600 miles of a pole? NO

Can you find any land on Earth today in ICE AGE outside of 600 miles of a pole? NO

100% correlation completely ignored for the purpose of pushing CO2 FRAUD on us....

 

[DennisPTate]

Earth climate change:
Colder = drier
Warmer = wetter

Those who blame the fires on "warming" are absolute morons who are wrong twice in the same sentence.





Like... way under the ice, and when there is magma release on the Peninsula.

Antarctica is 100% ice and its "ice loss" is 100% from icebergs... which are STILL FROZEN when released...

There is NO "liquid water" on the surface.

Isn't it true that the situation UNDER the land based Greenland Ice Sheet is different? Isn't it true that there are lakes and rivers of H2O in the liquid state under the ice on Greenland?

I believe that the liquid water lakes and rivers UNDER the Greenland Ice make it much more susceptible to releasing ice bergs into the North ATlantic than is the case in most of Antarctica, [with the possible exception of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet].

Yes, lakes and rivers exist under the Greenland Ice Sheet, but they are not the same as those on the surface. "Subglacial lakes" and "subglacial rivers" are bodies of water that form beneath the ice, fed by surface meltwater that drains through cracks and moulins. These subglacial water systems are "active" and play a crucial role in the ice sheet's movement and how it will respond to climate change

What a Glacial River Reveals About the Greenland Ice Sheet​

 

[EMH]

Isn't it true that the situation UNDER the land based Greenland Ice Sheet is different? Isn't it true that there are lakes and rivers of H2O in the liquid state under the ice on Greenland?

Ice age glacier DIGS. This is Greenland now without its ice...

Notice that the southern tip is not dug out, as the ice only got there in the past 600 years.

Pressurized ice grabs rocks and dirt and then moves them.


Whether there are lakes and water under the ice doesn't affect iceberg production on AA or Greenland. The ice continues to grow, expand, and break off. The physics of being under a mile of ice is complicated for sure.

 

[DennisPTate]

Isn't it true that the situation UNDER the land based Greenland Ice Sheet is different? Isn't it true that there are lakes and rivers of H2O in the liquid state under the ice on Greenland?

Ice age glacier DIGS. This is Greenland now without its ice...

Notice that the southern tip is not dug out, as the ice only got there in the past 600 years.

Pressurized ice grabs rocks and dirt and then moves them.


Whether there are lakes and water under the ice doesn't affect iceberg production on AA or Greenland. The ice continues to grow, expand, and break off. The physics of being under a mile of ice is complicated for sure.

I am sure that you are correct that at this time the liquid water lakes and rivers under Greenland are not yet causing a massive amount of calving of ice bergs but over the coming decades isn't it possible that that situation could change?

The possibility of magnetic polar wobbling or shifting adds another interesting possibility into the whole formula.

I have the impression that a high percentage of those surface of Greenland lakes and rivers as they drop down to be under the ice, seem to mostly be remaining as liquid water and much of it seems to NOT be freezing again, [I guess this is partly due to the pressure that the ice on top of it puts on the liquid water at the bottom]?

 

[EMH]

but over the coming decades isn't it possible that that situation could change?

It hasn't on AA for 40 million years.

It hasn't on Greenland for 1-2 million years.

This is just CO2 FRAUD fearmongering noise with ZERO EVIDENCE.

 

[EMH]

The possibility of magnetic polar wobbling or shifting adds another interesting possibility into the whole formula

That would not affect climate at all.

 

[EMH]

those surface of Greenland lakes and rivers

You are being deceived.

The ice on Greenland goes way south of Arctic Circle. There, during summer, there is significant melting, "rivers" form etc.

But what they DO NOT HAVE on Greenland is any net ICE RETREAT. Whatever melts on southern tip is replaced during winter by incoming ice and the ice IS NOT RETREATING....

 

[DennisPTate]

You are being deceived.

The ice on Greenland goes way south of Arctic Circle. There, during summer, there is significant melting, "rivers" form etc.

But what they DO NOT HAVE on Greenland is any net ICE RETREAT. Whatever melts on southern tip is replaced during winter by incoming ice and the ice IS NOT RETREATING....

Yes, that is good news for the moment. I plead guilty to being somewhat deceived on many topics because some of the best and brightest minds on this third rock are involved in deceiving even the most well informed of us. I have the impression that most topics that BigMedia will even get into, there is an editorial narrative or spin that is not entirely honest.

 

[EMH]

Yes, that is good news for the moment. I plead guilty to being somewhat deceived on many topics because some of the best and brightest minds on this third rock are involved in deceiving even the most well informed of us. I have the impression that most topics that BigMedia will even get into, there is an editorial narrative or spin that is not entirely honest.

You are an excellent addition to USMB Environment section, a good scientific and analytical mind.

WELCOME!!

 

[DennisPTate]

You are an excellent addition to USMB Environment section, a good scientific and analytical mind.

WELCOME!!

Thank you immensely. You have helped to make this the best online forum that I have ever found.

 

[Captain Caveman]

How many trillions in taxes and destroyed liberties will it take to reverse that?