Indiana parents warn nation after child is removed from home for improper pronoun usage: ‘Can happen anywhere’

[JoeB131]

Just two different faces of the same underlying madness and evil. That, along with pedophilia, bestiality, incest, and almost every other severely fucked-up sexual perversion. It all grows from the same noxious roots.

Um, Bob, your deranged cult was chased from one end of the country to another because "decent people" thought your elders marrying multiple woman and young girls was "Madness and Evil".

It seems to me that you can't tell me why homosexuality is "wrong" or "evil" other than you think it's icky and God says it's bad.

 

[JoeB131]

Illogical argument. Conservative and progressives alike do agree that children should be allowed to develop fully before GAC is provided. One's political leaning doesn't immediately discredit their approach for medical care. The facts are valid that GAC, at an early age, does irreversible and biological harm to the body. Not to mention, the mental health concerns of regret that can and does happen. My point again, is that GAC is not some magic wand that is the end all answer to gender dysphoria. As stated GAC is a warm fuzzy blanket that covers the truth of life long, irreversible physical changes and carries potential absolute risks to a human's sexuality, sexual function, sexual pleasure and fulfillment.

Do any of those Conservatives or progressives have medical degrees and specialize in this kind of treatment?

If they don't, then a person suffering Gender Dyshoria should no more care about their opinions than a cancer patient should care about their view on Oncology.

Fact is even though there are probably 360,000 gender dysphoric youth in this country, less than 5000 of them are getting GAC.

 

[Orangecat]

Loving parents dont behave in a cruel manner.

It's cruel to lie and tell a child they can be whatever gender they choose.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

As usual…there is more to it then what is being sensationalized:

Citing religious, parental rights, Hoosier couple asks SCOTUS for relief after trans child was removed - The Indiana Lawyer

An Indiana Catholic couple is asking U.S. Supreme Court to take their case after their transgender child was taken from their home because the parents would not use the child’s preferred pronouns.

www.theindianalawyer.com

Yes. There is more to it. This boy has serious mental and emotional issues. His delusions should not be indulged. He should be guided into accepting reality. Removing him from a home supporting reality is not helping this child live in the real world.

 

[d0gbreath]

Banana Republic.

Indiana is pretty bad, but I wouldn't go that far.

 

[d0gbreath]

It's cruel to lie and tell a child they can be whatever gender they choose.

That is not a lie. Plus, no parent ever, ever said that.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes. There is more to it. This boy has serious mental and emotional issues. His delusions should not be indulged. He should be guided into accepting reality. Removing him from a home supporting reality is not helping this child live in the real world.

In the real world, she's still going to have to deal with her Gender Dysphoria.

 

[Orangecat]

That is not a lie. Plus, no parent ever, ever said that.

Actions speak louder than words. Condoning it is just as bad.

 

[d0gbreath]

Actions speak louder than words. Condoning it is just as bad.

How many transsexual individuals do you know personally?

 

[Orangecat]

How many transsexual individuals do you know personally?

752

 

[d0gbreath]

752

That seems like too many, but OK.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

In the real world, she's still going to have to deal with her Gender Dysphoria.

He needs treatment. No doubt about it. Indulging the delusion is not the appropriate treatment.

 

[JoeB131]

He needs treatment. No doubt about it. Indulging the delusion is not the appropriate treatment.

Except there's a wealth of scientific studies that say that it is.

 

[Orangecat]

That seems like too many, but OK.

What a transphobic thing to say.

 

[JoeB131]

As usual…there is more to it then what is being sensationalized:

Citing religious, parental rights, Hoosier couple asks SCOTUS for relief after trans child was removed - The Indiana Lawyer

An Indiana Catholic couple is asking U.S. Supreme Court to take their case after their transgender child was taken from their home because the parents would not use the child’s preferred pronouns.

www.theindianalawyer.com

Thank you for clearing up this misinformation, Coyote

I am noticing, though, that this thread no longer shows up on my Watched Threads list now that it's been merged, and I have to hunt and peck for it. Is this a quirk of USMB?

 

[d0gbreath]

What a transphobic thing to say.

Sorry, what was I thinking?

 

[d0gbreath]

Thank you for clearing up this misinformation, Coyote

I am noticing, though, that this thread no longer shows up on my Watched Threads list now that it's been merged, and I have to hunt and peck for it. Is this a quirk of USMB?

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

 

[gtopa1]

As usual…there is more to it then what is being sensationalized:

Citing religious, parental rights, Hoosier couple asks SCOTUS for relief after trans child was removed - The Indiana Lawyer

An Indiana Catholic couple is asking U.S. Supreme Court to take their case after their transgender child was taken from their home because the parents would not use the child’s preferred pronouns.

www.theindianalawyer.com

LIAR!!

According to Becket, “After completing its investigation, Indiana made an about-face and abandoned all allegations against Mary and Jeremy, admitting that the accusations of abuse were unsubstantiated. However, Indiana surprised the parents by arguing that the disagreement over gender identity was distressing to their child and contributed to his eating disorder — even though that disorder became worse after he was removed and placed in a transition-affirming home. The trial court relied on Indiana’s argument to keep the child out of his parents’ custody and keep the gag order in place.”

Yup; you are a LIAR!!!!

Greg

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Except there's a wealth of scientific studies that say that it is.

Do we remove arms and legs from those with Body Integrity Dysphoria? Do we put anorexics on a strict diet because they see themselves as fat? Those who believe they are vampires aren't given blood bags at kindergarten snack time. The trans delusion is promoted. It is a social cause. It is a mental illness. Most children grow out of it.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The hard fact is that a girl, is not, and cannot become a boy, nor is a boy nor can a boy become a girl. It is flat-out biologically impossible.

Okay, an Asian can't become a white person, but gosh darn, how many Asians get Blephoraplasties to round out their eyes?
Yet you never seem to be nearly as freaked out about that.

Two reasons immediately jump out at me as to why your analogy is bullshit.

First of all, does anyone believe that the operation you describe can genuinely turn person of Asian ethnicity into one of Caucasian ethnicity? I seriously doubt it. I can imagine that someone of Asian appearance might think that white people's eyes are more attractive, and be vain enough to have the surgery to imitate that, but I doubt anyone believes that he or she is actually becoming a white person by having that operation. I think I am vaguely aware that at some point in the past, it was fashionable for black people to have their hair straightened, in order to look more like white people's hair. Much less drastic a process than a blephoraplasty, but the same idea. I don't think anyone genuinely thought that it made them white.

The big fraud at the root of “gender affirming care” is that it somehow changes the victim into the opposite of his true gender sex. It does no such thing, and anyone who believes that it does is delusional. After it is all done, what is left is a person that is the same sex he was before, but now a ruined, mutilated form thereof; likely rendered sterile, possibly inconstant, incapable of enjoying sexual intimacy. The victim's mind is still just as fucked up as it was before, but now the victim's body is fucked up as well.
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And that leads into the second point. I assume that this blephoraplasty is purely a cosmetic procedure, that it does not cause any actual loss of function for the patient, other than the usual damage and recovery that is inherent in any surgery. Someone who has had a blephoraplasty, can still see as well as before the procedure, right? It doesn't damage or disable any actual functions or organs, does it?

Same with nearly every other form of legitimate cosmetic surgery, I assume. Short of having some serious visual deformity, I, myself, have a difficult time imagining anyone being vain enough to go through surgery just for cosmetic reasons, but I guess there are some people who are much vainer than I can imagine being. Having been through two surgeries on the leg that I broke four year ago, I have enough of a sense of how destructive surgery inherently is that I would not easily consent to having it done to me unless it is to fix damage that is more serious than what the surgery itself will unavoidably cause.

“General affirming care” isn't just cosmetic. It entails, through drugs, hormones and surgery, a destruction of the victim's reproductive system, as well as of excretory systems in close proximity thereto. No objective benefit at all; and plenty of serious, irreversible harm. Sterility, sexual dysfunction, incontinence, a lifetime of ongoing drugs and treatments to maintain the mutilated body. It flies in the face of any rational set of medical ethics, for any physician to have any part in doing this to a patient.

Certainly, a minor cannot be expected to understand or give informed consent to the seriousness of the lifetime harm that this Frankensteinery would inflict; and no excuse can possibly stand for doing any of this to a minor, or even in encouraging a minor along that path. Even an adult that wishes this shit to be done to him, should probably be assumed to be of a seriously unsound mental condition, such that it would be unethical for any physician to take advantage of his mental unsoundness by performing these procedures.

If Josef Mengele were alive today, I think he would be fascinated by this field. This shit is very much in line with the sort of work he was into; and very much in line with what is known of his ethical character.