Incels.

[Correll]

Why would it?

You're not going to stop it so if you want to tilt at windmills it's your time to waste.

Well, you have seemed very angry at the discussion so far. Going as far as to repeatedly lie and to attack me based on your lies.

 

[Blues Man]

Well, you have seemed very angry at the discussion so far. Going as far as to repeatedly lie and to attack me based on your lies.

Whining about "incels" and a discussion about the evolution of societies are 2 entirely different things.

 

[Correll]

Whining about "incels" and a discussion about the evolution of societies are 2 entirely different things.

Is it? I don't recall "incels" being an issue 30 years ago. Seems like that was an "evolution".


And it seems obvious that a smaller group of men that can't get laid and a larger group of men and women that fail to get married,

might be the results of the same underlying cause(s).

 

[Blues Man]

Is it? I don't recall "incels" being an issue 30 years ago. Seems like that was an "evolution".


And it seems obvious that a smaller group of men that can't get laid and a larger group of men and women that fail to get married,

might be the results of the same underlying cause(s).

Again so called "incels" are a fringe subculture which is really nothing but another alt right splinter group. The misogyny is plain to see to anyone who visits any on line incel forum.

You are giving this fringe group far too much credibility

 

[Correll]

Again so called "incels" are a fringe subculture which is really nothing but another alt right splinter group. The misogyny is plain to see to anyone who visits any on line incel forum.

You are giving this fringe group far too much credibility

Irrelevant to my point. BOth issues, seem to stem from a breakdown of normal, or past courtship or mating behaviors.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Would you like to actually honestly address the issue, or are you just here to troll?

I have been discussing this topic. You just want to whine like you’ve been doing this entire time.

 

[Blues Man]

Irrelevant to my point. BOth issues, seem to stem from a breakdown of normal, or past courtship or mating behaviors.

No they don't.

You assume that these "incel" whiners would have been getting girls if it were the 1950's and there is absolutely no evidence of that

 

[Correll]

No they don't.

You assume that these "incel" whiners would have been getting girls if it were the 1950's and there is absolutely no evidence of that

You greatly overstate my position.

Question for you. If it were the "1950s" and the "incels" were thus more likely to have a better job than the women, do you think that "incels" would appear more desirable to potential mates?

 

[XponentialChaos]

You greatly overstate my position.

Question for you. If it were the "1950s" and the "incels" were thus more likely to have a better job than the women, do you think that "incels" would appear more desirable to potential mates?

Question for you: would you prefer for women to make substantially less money than men?

 

[Correll]

Question for you: would you prefer for women to make substantially less money than men?

I think that the ideal should be a nuclear family, one income, male breadwinner, stay at home mom, house with a mother-in-law wing to help with extended family situations.

And I want policies and a culture that makes that viable possibility for those that want it.

IMO, enough women would want that, if possible, that as a result, women would make substantially less money than men.


Now, you answer mine. Question for you. If it were the "1950s" and the "incels" were thus more likely to have a better job than the women, do you think that "incels" would appear more desirable to potential mates?

 

[XponentialChaos]

I think that the ideal should be a nuclear family, one income, male breadwinner, stay at home mom, house with a mother-in-law wing to help with extended family situations.

And I want policies and a culture that makes that viable possibility for those that want it.

IMO, enough women would want that, if possible, that as a result, women would make substantially less money than men.


Now, you answer mine. Question for you. If it were the "1950s" and the "incels" were thus more likely to have a better job than the women, do you think that "incels" would appear more desirable to potential mates?

So you want women to make less money and also wonder why women aren’t attracted to you lol.

To answer your question, I think the single biggest issue that makes you incels undesirable to women is your personality. Financial situations will only minimally help your chances.

 

[Correll]

So you want women to make less money and also wonder why women aren’t attracted to you lol.

THe way you lie constantly, makes you a shitty person. That is not what I said. You are an asshole.

To answer your question, I think the single biggest issue that makes you incels undesirable to women is your personality. Financial situations will only minimally help your chances.

Yeah, I'm sure money is such a small factor in whom women find attractive.

 

[XponentialChaos]

THe way you lie constantly, makes you a shitty person. That is not what I said. You are an asshole.

That’s not what you said? Then please clarify.

Question for you: would you prefer for women to make substantially less money than men? Yes or no.

One word response please. Yes or no.

 

[Correll]

That’s not what you said? Then please clarify.

I already explained it at length. You choose to ignore my explanation before. Why should I think that this time would be different? If you really care, just go back and actually read it.

Question for you: would you prefer for women to make substantially less money than men? Yes or no.

One word response please. Yes or no.

Except it's not an yes/no question. As made clear already. Why are you ignoring everything I already said on the issue?

Oh, wait, do you imagine that that was some sort of gotcha moment?

 

[XponentialChaos]

I already explained it at length. You choose to ignore my explanation before. Why should I think that this time would be different? If you really care, just go back and actually read it.




Except it's not an yes/no question. As made clear already. Why are you ignoring everything I already said on the issue?

Oh, wait, do you imagine that that was some sort of gotcha moment?

You answered already and then you accused me of misinterpreting your answer so I’m asking you to be very clear with a 1-word response. It’s a simple yes/no question and you won’t answer it.

Question for you: would you prefer for women to make substantially less money than men? Yes or no.

You won’t answer now because it’s noe clear to you that I didn’t misinterpret what you said.

 

[Correll]

You answered already and then you accused me of misinterpreting your answer so I’m asking you to be very clear with a 1-word response. It’s a simple yes/no question and you won’t answer it.

Question for you: would you prefer for women to make substantially less money than men? Yes or no.

You won’t answer now because it’s noe clear to you that I didn’t misinterpret what you said.

Because my position is not a yes or no.


Question: Do you think that the decline of marriage is a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Because my position is not a yes or no.


Question: Do you think that the decline of marriage is a good thing or a bad thing?

So you don’t prefer for women to make significantly less than men?

Neither. Whether people get married or not doesn‘t bother me either way.

 

[Correll]

So you don’t prefer for women to make significantly less than men?

Neither. Whether people get married or not doesn‘t bother me either way.

I think that marriage is a good thing, especially for any children involved. It is certainly a valid issue. As this is a discussion forum....


Anyhow, like I was saying before, it is likely that the issues of "incels" and declining marriage rates are connected.

 

[XponentialChaos]

I think that marriage is a good thing, especially for any children involved. It is certainly a valid issue. As this is a discussion forum....


Anyhow, like I was saying before, it is likely that the issues of "incels" and declining marriage rates are connected.

So you don’t prefer for women to make significantly less than men?

 

[Correll]

So you don’t prefer for women to make significantly less than men?

I guess it depends on why. IF it is because women WANT to be stay at home moms, and are able to do that, and thus are out of the work force for quite a long time, thus reducing and constraining their careers,

then not only yes, but hell yes.