Zone1 In The Bible's Genesis An Account Of Nature. Right?

[hobelim]

I skip the fighting and go straight to winning.

Sure, You're a real winner champ! I heard that you got a consolation prize, and a ribbon!

 

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Sure, You're a real winner champ! I heard that you got a consolation prize, and a ribbon!

The proof is always in the pudding.

 

[hobelim]

You've told me what you think of me and my faith something like 1,089 times. This is totally therapy for you.

You may not realize this, even though I told you a thousand times, I am doing what I am doing for the benefit of those standing around watching to reveal the wisdom of God in giving the command to refrain from the flesh of vile and loathsome creatures whose flesh defiles and contaminates your very soul, the mind, through which your entire experience of life is perceived

So that they too, like me, can have an exalted experience of life, without any religious flotsam that oozes out of your addled head like a foul and smelly pus every single time that I squeeze it.

You are the perfect example of what happens to a person who sets that instruction aside.

 

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You may not realize this, even though I told you a thousand times, I am doing what I am doing for the benefit of those standing around watching to reveal the wisdom of God in giving the command to refrain from the flesh of vile and loathsome creatures whose flesh defiles and contaminates your very soul, the mind, through which your entire experience of life is perceived

So that they too, like me, can have an exalted experience of life, without any religious flotsam that oozes out of your addled head like a foul and smelly pus every single time that I squeeze it.

You are the perfect example of what happens to a person who sets that instruction aside.

It's hilarious that you would believe that.

 

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So that they too, like me, can have an exalted experience of life, without any religious flotsam that oozes out of your addled head like a foul and smelly pus every single time that I squeeze it.

And you think that these are the kind of things that someone who is living an exalted experience of life would say?

I think your behaviors demonstrate the exact opposite. I think these are the kind of words a person suffering through life and crying for help would say.

I feel sorry for you.

 

[surada]

Yes, Its obvious that Moses borrowed liberally from known myths except instead of "paying homage to the devil" and praising the serpent as wise and powerful, through deception, he relegated talking serpents in society to the lowest place, as the lowest form of all lowlifes.

See genesis 3:14

Snake cults were popular in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Arabia and the Indus valley. The snake was revered for fertility, wisdom and rebirth. I think it was a matter of dueling gods.

 

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"Science does not describe the creation of the universe. "

It was not long ago that science thought that the universe was static and eternal.

Einstein, for example, thought this, so he modified his theory of relativity to accommodate that false belief, but when it was proved that this belief was wrong after being able to see as far back as the Big Bang, thanks to technological advancements, he said that modifying his theory of relativity to make it work was perhaps the biggest regrets of his life.

BTW, the Big Bang theory was created by a priest scientists like Einstein used to mock.

As Genesis states, the universe had a beginning.

What other religious book had such insight?

 

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"Science does not describe the creation of the universe. "

The Early Universe

pages.uoregon.edu

 

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The Book of Genesis is the first book of the Bible and is part of the Torah, or Pentateuch, which is the first five books of the Bible.

The book is thought to have been composed around the 5th century BC, but some scholars believe that chapters 1–11, which cover primeval history, may have been added as late as the 3rd century BC.

The authors of Genesis borrowed themes from Mesopotamian mythology and ancient near eastern cosmology, but adapted them to their unique belief in one God. The creation myth in Genesis 1 may have been created by a Hebrew scribe living in Babylon during the Babylonian Exile in the 4th century BCE.

Genesis is divided into two parts:

Primeval history
Chapters 1–11 include stories such as the creation, the Garden of Eden, Cain and Abel, Noah and the Flood, and the Tower of Babel.

Patriarchal history
Chapters 12–50 include stories such as Abraham, Isaac and his twin sons Jacob and Esau, and Jacob's family, including Joseph.

Most mainstream Bible scholars consider Genesis to be primarily mythological rather than historical.

You misspelled allegorical and the accounts of the 1st eleven chapters is the history that all nations shared prior to the migration from Mesopotamia.

 

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Genesis was never about the Big Bang

Genesis clearly explains the belief that a Supreme Being created everything. And it's remarkably accurate.

New Big Bang evidence supports Biblical creation, says Orthodox physicist​

 

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In The Bible Genesis An Account Of Nature. Right?​

Is it or is it not an account of nature? Give me your description of the natural world based only the Bible. Was the Universe created in six days? In the Book of Revelations, will the stars fall out of the sky?

These are serious questions. Why? Because people of religious faith have been trying and in some cases succeeding in deciding what kids learn in schools.

The Torah does not say the universe was created in 6 days.

Early Jewish rabbis seemed to think Genesis was talking about a longer time span\

But the English translation butchered it as many assume only 6 days.

Those Jewish theologians were pre-modern science, so there was no incentive to make their interpretations of the first 6 days to that of science today. They simply got it from their Hebrew translation and passed down info.

 

[surada]

The Torah does not say the universe was created in 6 days.

Early Jewish rabbis seemed to think Genesis was talking about a longer time span\

But the English translation butchered it as many assume only 6 days.

Those Jewish theologians were pre-modern science, so there was no incentive to make their interpretations of the first 6 days to that of science today. They simply got it from their Hebrew translation and passed down info.

Genesis and Exodus were written after the Babylonian exile.

 

[hobelim]

Genesis clearly explains the belief that a Supreme Being created everything. And it's remarkably accurate.

According to the story a supreme being created heaven and earth. A world above and a world below. You must have missed the part where the earth was already in existence before light was spoken into existence, light being a direct reference to the law which divides day from night, clean from unclean, true from false, good from evil, life, (sanity) from death, (insanity).

"And the Spirit of God hovered over the waters and said, "let there be light", on this strange planet that had been existing "without shape or form (lawless) and void (exceedingly pointless) and darkness (ignorance) covered the face of the deep (the unknown)" for billions of years.

 

[hobelim]

Snake cults were popular in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Arabia and the Indus valley. The snake was revered for fertility, wisdom and rebirth. I think it was a matter of dueling gods.

Sure, a duel between the only living God ever in existence and a figment of superstitious unrestrained imaginations that does not correspond to any real living being that ever existed.

I wonder how thats going to turn out...

 

[surada]

Sure, a duel between the only living God ever in existence and a figment of superstitious unrestrained imaginations that does not correspond to any real living being that ever existed.

I wonder how thats going to turn out...

The snake cults predate Judaism. It's just what is so. Leviticus was written during the Babylonian exile.. Genesis was written after the exile.

 

[hobelim]

The snake cults predate Judaism. It's just what is so. Leviticus was written during the Babylonian exile.. Genesis was written after the exile.

I don't disagree. As I said Judaism relegated the serpent to the lowest place in society as the lowest of all lowlifes, and turned it from a god into a despicable person. This is what Jesus meant by saying thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven, the will of God, see Genesis 3:14.

In Hebrew the word for serpent, Nachash, is both a noun and an adjective meaning serpent, brazen, shiny one, and/or someone who practices divination. These stars of the ancient world practiced sorcery or the magical arts, what is now well known as brainwashing, mind control, which amounts to the murder of the soul, the mind, rational thinking, and self awareness, turning individuals into Borg. Thats why Jesus said, 'Satan was a murderer from the beginning'.

Even though Satan, the talking serpent, literally never killed anyone, according to the story....

 

[surada]

I don't disagree. As I said Judaism relegated the serpent to the lowest place as the lowest of all lowlifes and turned it from a god into a despicable person.

The ouroboros is a symbol of eternity and continual renewal of life.

Jesus also presents the snake with a less negative connotation when sending out the Twelve Apostles. Jesus exhorted them, "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves" (Matthew 10:16).

 

[hobelim]

The ouroboros is a symbol of eternity and continual renewal of life.

Jesus also presents the snake with a less negative connotation when sending out the Twelve Apostles. Jesus exhorted them, "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves" (Matthew 10:16).

He was just telling them to remain pure of mind which did not mean they should be suckers.

 

[surada]

He was just telling them to remain pure of mind which did not mean they should be suckers.

How do you interpret "pure of mind"? He also told them to leave not fight.

 

[hobelim]

How do you interpret "pure of mind"?

Pure of mind? Faithful and true. Pure intentions, pure thoughts untainted by base instincts greed, envy, false pride, etc., . And since every action is preceded by a thought if you don't remain pure of mind its inevitable that you will injure others, yourself, and the people you love.

Thats why one must circumcise the flesh of the foreskin of the mind, the yetzer ha-ra.

Blessed are the pure of mind for they shall see God.

He also told them to leave not fight.

Right. What Jesus was teaching is so easy to understand that if anyone, even entire villages, refused to acknowledge the truth, then their rejection was deliberate so why waste any time?

There is a choice between life and death, Moses said, "Choose life and live", so live and let die.

If you explained it forever they will never comprehend. THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD ALREADY.