In the 2028 Election, who would represent the most minimally viable candidates to win the White House?

[ColonelAngus]

Mayor Pete would be terrible.

 

[CowboyTed]

In the end it is the haves and the have nots. So, the older people protesting for the Progressives way with near all of them living comfortably from pensions, social security and benefits while they sit on their asses. No matter if they earned it, it is taking wealth from somewhere else. And they would say, they earned it. The fact is, not really in a general sense. Would they accept half of those resources to give to others? You have to have skin in the game. There are other avenues of the problems we have besides that. This is one example, though. We live in era where it is not our shit that stinks, but others. And from that who gets more of the booty.

You can't see that the game is rigged...

The young people work just as hard as their parents and grandparents but are getting less...

The older are the ones with shares (and share income)and the younger are working for there money...

Wage Stagnation in Nine Charts

Our country has suffered from rising income inequality and chronically slow growth in the living standards of low- and moderate-income Americans. This disappointing living-standards growth—which was in fact caused by rising income inequality—preceded the Great Recession and continues to this...

www.epi.org

I have been saying it for years... It is not about race it is about income... Are you poor or middle class, are you earning your money OR are wealthier and you gaining from investment income...

 

[Seymour Flops]

Guessing it will be Newsom on the (D) side.


Your side, which is the (R) side.......who ******* knows if trump will declare WAR and try for a non-election, to remain in power.
Unless trump dies of natural causes before the 2028 election, my guess is that he will try to retain POWER.

Jesus, Winco. can't hold a civilized conversation for more than one short sentence. Probably due to having to admit that Gavin Newsom is the best your side can do right now.

Newsom is tentatively trying on the moderate cosplay gear that Democrats have to wear when they run for national office. He will need to come up with a firm position on the males in womens/girls sports issue. Maintaining his current position will kill him with undecideds and changing it will kill him with the more left Democrats.

Depending on how the economy goes, he will have to either promise to fix it, or claim that not everyone is enjoying the prosperity and promising to fix that. With a real plan for either one.

Hating Trump will not be viable as every plank on the platform in 2028.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Guessing it will be Newsom on the (D) side.


Your side, which is the (R) side.......who ******* knows if trump will declare WAR and try for a non-election, to remain in power.
Unless trump dies of natural causes before the 2028 election, my guess is that he will try to retain POWER.

Yeah, thats not going to happen

 

[ThisIsMe]

The Democrats will not put Harris up again. That would certainly be a losing proposition. AOC perhaps. Hakeem Jeffries would probably throw himself into the mix. If the Democrats want to actually have a good chance, they need to look at some of their "old-school" liberals, not the new pro-Marxist lot. It needs to go back to sanity. They also need to rein in the obnoxious rioters and soft on crime DA's and judges. The general public is sick of the violent criminals being repeatedly released again and again and again and again, when all they do is rack up more victims of the public.

Newsome-cortez ticket? Thats my guess

 

[Seymour Flops]

There are rumours of it being a battle of the new Establishment characters on both sides. AOC perhaps with Harris and Newsom making up the California mix. GOP have Vance, Rubio even Tulsi or RFK could make some.noise who knows? i wouldn't be surprised if Florida Ron made a go of it again. Ultimately, as of now, who would be the most minimally viable candidate to win the W.H?

"New Establishment." Good way to put it. That's who is in charge now, driven primarily by the force of Trump's personality. I fear the old establishment may gain a foothold. As this poster put it:

A lot of GOP want their party back..

Yes, that is true.

Many of the people who are playing the dedicated MAGAs right now may go right back to being old establishment Reps. Rubio is very likely to do that, and also a likely contender for the nomination.

Old Establishment Republicanism consisted of talking a good conservative, pro-American game, but bowing to the Democrats at every turn, while they praise you for "working together." That may not work anymore, since the Democrat ledership have become enslaved by their most radical socialist/woke/jihad elements.

They've shut down the government for almost two weeks because they fear a little socialist barmaid from the 'burbs who became a congresswoman will primary them in the Senate race.

The Dems need to find somone who can plausibly claim to be moderate, which means they have been virtually unknown as a Democrat until now.

 

[kyzr]

CA is far from a mess.. That is the story line on RW news... Look at the actual economics... San Fran has a housing problem, because so many want to live there and wages high... Supply and Demand...
High tech came to Austin and left pretty rapidly... Compared to Red States, CA is Nirvana...

Fix California | Republican Caucus

California legislative democrats have run this state for over two decades, and their policies have created one problem after another.

src.senate.ca.gov

Read the book, Vance was quick pulling up the ladder when he got out.. There is a lot of hypocrisy, he thinks nothing about his family migrating for work but **** anyone else...
He is Trump's *****, he has no backbone and has actively made the lives of the people from area in his book worse... Sorry but the guy is scum, he couldn't wait to forget where he was from... I made it, so **** you...

JD is a loyal VP, and Trump approved "heir-apparent" to the US presidency as the Republican nominee for 2028.
He will have to win the primaries, unlike democrats, where the politburo appoints their nominee.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

There are rumours of it being a battle of the new Establishment characters on both sides. AOC perhaps with Harris and Newsom making up the California mix. GOP have Vance, Rubio even Tulsi or RFK could make some.noise who knows? i wouldn't be surprised if Florida Ron made a go of it again. Ultimately, as of now, who would be the most minimally viable candidate to win the W.H?

2028 is a political eternity away, but the smart money's on Vance for the Right.

For the Left?

It doesn't matter, they'll still be captured by their rabid/irrational base, and completely unpalatable to the public at large.

Not to mention the GOP will continue to dominate Congress.

If a Democrat were to somehow miraculously win the presidency - they would be practically an immediate lame duck.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Wouldn't rule out Nikki Haley...

HA!

Thanks for making it abundantly clear that no one should listen to you.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Guessing it will be Newsom on the (D) side.


Your side, which is the (R) side.......who ******* knows if trump will declare WAR and try for a non-election, to remain in power.
Unless trump dies of natural causes before the 2028 election, my guess is that he will try to retain POWER.

Is that what he did the last time?

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Is that what he did the last time?

I wonder if these people ever do any even cursory introspection and check the rearview on how their past predictions turned out.

Cuz there's a consistent outlay of dead detritus all over that road.

But since they lack any self-awareness - they're incapable of realizing that every prediction their legacy media pumps into their brains has turned out to be wrong.

After an entire decade of this.

Non stop.

It's amazing to behold when you take a break and come back seeing the same Leftoids with the same third rate takes they had before.

Gobsmacked.

 

[Winco]

Is that what he did the last time?

It's NOT about 'last time'
it's about 2028.

 

[RhodyPatriot]

It's NOT about 'last time'
it's about 2028.

Yeah.

Taking stock of the past to properly assess our current perception of the future is for total dumbasses.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It's NOT about 'last time'
it's about 2028.

If he wanted to be a dictator, he would have done it while he was in the position to accomplish it. He wouldn't have banked on having the power to do it some time in the future.
He'll help Vance win and keep the economy humming, then he'll go back to his sunny home, write a book, and play golf, as long as the left doesn't assassinate him.

 

[Cassandro]

Unlike the Dems, the GOP has a surfeit of capable individuals. Will there be room for DeSantis in the Vance administration?

 

[CowboyTed]

"New Establishment." Good way to put it. That's who is in charge now, driven primarily by the force of Trump's personality. I fear the old establishment may gain a foothold. As this poster put it:


Yes, that is true.

Many of the people who are playing the dedicated MAGAs right now may go right back to being old establishment Reps. Rubio is very likely to do that, and also a likely contender for the nomination.

Old Establishment Republicanism consisted of talking a good conservative, pro-American game, but bowing to the Democrats at every turn, while they praise you for "working together." That may not work anymore, since the Democrat ledership have become enslaved by their most radical socialist/woke/jihad elements.

They've shut down the government for almost two weeks because they fear a little socialist barmaid from the 'burbs who became a congresswoman will primary them in the Senate race.

The Dems need to find somone who can plausibly claim to be moderate, which means they have been virtually unknown as a Democrat until now.

Problem is Democrats would be a Centre Right Party in any other first world country in the world...

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”​

― Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad / Roughing It

The GOP model by Global Metric is Far Right... Centre Right Parties in the first world (outside US) support Universal Healthcare, Affordable/Free College/University, Combating Climate Change, Unions, Environmental Laws....
These countries fundamentally believe a country should be judged on how it treats its weakest and most vulnerable in society... US has created a society were you be ashamed you are not rich enough. This is the cultural difference...
Corporations in Europe are there to serve the people not the other way around...

 

[Seymour Flops]

Problem is Democrats would be a Centre Right Party in any other first world country in the world...

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”​

― Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad / Roughing It

Yes, I've traveled to Europe. I found very nice people, so long as you did not get caught up when they talked about the Jews.

But, I had no negative opinions of the Europeans such that I needed to be more charitable.

The GOP model by Global Metric is Far Right... Centre Right Parties in the first world (outside US) support Universal Healthcare, Affordable/Free College/University, Combating Climate Change, Unions, Environmental Laws....
These countries fundamentally believe a country should be judged on how it treats its weakest and most vulnerable in society... US has created a society were you be ashamed you are not rich enough. This is the cultural difference...
Corporations in Europe are there to serve the people not the other way around...

I suppose the U.S. could strive to be more like Europe. It would seem a bit odd, with so many of our ancestors having left their for a better life under our American system. Still, those people-serving corporations and not worrying about creating wealth sounds pretty appealing. I enjoyed the public transportation of Germany, which was well integrated with the other countries, especially since I lived in Frankfurt, something of a hub. The saunas were nice. Yes, we could stand to learn from them.

Hang on . . . if we became like Europe, we would surely need American assistance to end our devastating wars, and to rebuild our nations after those wars, and to station soldiers in our countries to protects us, so we can afford socialized medicine and great public transport with the money we don't spend on our own militaries.

Who would we turn to, the usual American charitable benefactor having converted to Europeanism?

 

[The piss off patriot]

We are talking about the establishment who had a hard on for Nikki. Nikki really? I don’t think that the establishment will get beyond of Vance if they are really serious about it because I believe that jd will not be controllable. Which the establishment has not learned from the lesson of 2016.

 

[The piss off patriot]

Who said that they didn’t like Vance because of his views on trump. If you see this let me know you are but here’s my response to your post So what! So you are saying that you can’t criticize the leader of the party and then oh look at that you are second in line! Obviously you don’t believe that people in a party is allowed to run if they criticize anyone

 

[IM2]

Harris wud be the best chice. She only lost by 1.5 percent, and she has been 100 percent correct about what we are seeing now. After 4 years of this, Repubicans will have a serious problem unless they run an non-MAGA candidate.