In Our War Against Russia.

[gipper]

Russia ran the USSR, all the Socialist Soviet Republics danced to the music coming from Moscow.

Russia ran the USSR…

 

[whitehall]

Uh... yeah, Russia did invade Germany. And Poland. And Czechoslavakia. Yugoslavia. And Romania. And Hungary. And what else pray tell?

Russia was a German ally before Stalin switched sides and became a friend of FDR. It was Germany that invaded Russia and Poland.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Russia was a German ally before Stalin switched sides and became a friend of FDR. It was Germany that invaded Russia and Poland.

Russia invaded eastern Poland on 23 Sep 1939 in agreement with Germany.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Accounts from whom?

A lot of sources since the fall of the Iron Curtain. Here is one from Stack.com/History: "...
There are historians who argue that an invasion was planned on July 1941 (Victor Suvorov, Mark Solonin and others), and other historians who object this, and claim that no invasion was planned on summer 1941. There is no unambiguous evidence. There is no document ordering an invasion on a specified date.

But there seems to be a consensus that EVENTUALLY (perhaps in 1942) Stalin planned to join the war. In fact he and other Soviet government officials are on record saying this openly. None of them stated the date, of course.

EDIT. This discussion started with publication of Suvorov's book Icebreaker in 1987. Suvorov was a Soviet spy who defected to the West and was sentenced to death in absentia. He could use only openly published evidence in his book. His main argument was based on the configuration of Soviet troops in early summer 1941, which can be interpreted in two ways: a) planned invasion, or b) extreme stupidity. Since then, a lot of such secondary evidence has been collected, and some documents were published supporting his point of view, however there is no document which states a date of a planned invasion. ..."

 

[AZrailwhale]

Russia invaded eastern Poland on 23 Sep 1939 in agreement with Germany.

And then again in 1944.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And then again in 1944.

Not in agreement with Germany for some of you MAGA 'historians.'

 

[Deadstick]

A lot of sources since the fall of the Iron Curtain. Here is one from Stack.com/History: "...
There are historians who argue that an invasion was planned on July 1941 (Victor Suvorov, Mark Solonin and others), and other historians who object this, and claim that no invasion was planned on summer 1941. There is no unambiguous evidence. There is no document ordering an invasion on a specified date.

But there seems to be a consensus that EVENTUALLY (perhaps in 1942) Stalin planned to join the war. In fact he and other Soviet government officials are on record saying this openly. None of them stated the date, of course.

EDIT. This discussion started with publication of Suvorov's book Icebreaker in 1987. Suvorov was a Soviet spy who defected to the West and was sentenced to death in absentia. He could use only openly published evidence in his book. His main argument was based on the configuration of Soviet troops in early summer 1941, which can be interpreted in two ways: a) planned invasion, or b) extreme stupidity. Since then, a lot of such secondary evidence has been collected, and some documents were published supporting his point of view, however there is no document which states a date of a planned invasion. ..."

So the bottom line is there is no evidence it's just an opinion, same as the idiots who say Putin will invade the whole of Europe after the war with Ukraine is over.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Not in agreement with Germany for some of you MAGA 'historians.'

Nope, instead of sharing Poland with Germany, the Soviets took it for themselves the second time.

 

[longly]

NATO is morally, intellectually and financially bankrupt. Russia saved Europe from Hitler. It does not want to rule Europe or the US. It wants only one thing, to protect Mother Russia and live in peace. NATO has been the aggressor for decades.

Many Americans don't understand that because they have been successfully brainwashed for generations, so it's hard for them to perceive reality.

Sorry, friend, but that's a bunch of nonsense. Any casual observer can tell you that NATO and the European nations aren’t the aggressors here. NATO is a defensive organization, not an alliance looking to attack anyone. The idea that NATO is some warmongering entity couldn't be further from the truth—if anything, they lean toward diplomacy and deterrence rather than outright aggression.

I understand that frustration with those who manipulate the Constitution and law for political purposes can push people toward opposing viewpoints, but siding with Putin isn't the solution. In the end, you'd only find yourself under Russian control, stripped of any real freedom.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So the bottom line is there is no evidence it's just an opinion, same as the idiots who say Putin will invade the whole of Europe after the war with Ukraine is over.

Who says that? That is as silly as saying he won't try to take eastern Poland or all of Romania, etc.

He does not want France or Holland or Italy or whatever in western Europe.

 

[Deadstick]

Who says that? That is as silly as saying he won't try to take eastern Poland or all of Romania, etc.

He does not want France or Holland or Italy or whatever in western Europe.

I have heard many people in the media say it also individuals on TV and Radio talk shows, it's a common refrain from them.

 

[Deadstick]

Sorry, friend, but that's a bunch of nonsense. Any casual observer can tell you that NATO and the European nations aren’t the aggressors here. NATO is a defensive organization, not an alliance looking to attack anyone. The idea that NATO is some warmongering entity couldn't be further from the truth—if anything, they lean toward diplomacy and deterrence rather than outright aggression.

I understand that frustration with those who manipulate the Constitution and law for political purposes can push people toward opposing viewpoints, but siding with Putin isn't the solution. In the end, you'd only find yourself under Russian control, stripped of any real freedom.

Nato started their illegal rampage with the attack on the former Yugoslavia they attacked Libya, they were involved in Afghanistan, defensive my arse, now NATO weapons are being launched directly against Russia, Putin is too soft in some peoples opinion otherwise he would have taken some Nato installations off the map.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nato started their illegal rampage with the attack on the former Yugoslavia they attacked Libya, they were involved in Afghanistan, defensive my arse, now NATO weapons are being launched directly against Russia, Putin is too soft in some peoples opinion otherwise he would have taken some Nato installations off the map.

The West stop Russian encroachment. Go encroach Belgorod.

 

[frigidweirdo]

NATO is morally, intellectually and financially bankrupt. Russia saved Europe from Hitler. It does not want to rule Europe or the US. It wants only one thing, to protect Mother Russia and live in peace. NATO has been the aggressor for decades.

Many Americans don't understand that because they have been successfully brainwashed for generations, so it's hard for them to perceive reality.

How is attacking other countries "protecting mother Russia"?

Nobody in Europe or the US wants war with Russia. Putin made a bogeyman so he could get what he wanted, which was WAR.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How is attacking other countries "protecting Mother Russia"?

Nobody in Europe or the US wants war with Russia. Putin made a bogeyman so he could get what he wanted, which was WAR.

The older Putin grows, He becomes more dangerous. I also think he is mentally and emotionally less stable, and thus, to more likely make bad decisions.

 

[Deadstick]

The West stop Russian encroachment. Go encroach Belgorod.

Nato moved thousands of miles East, hello!

 

[Deadstick]

The older Putin grows, He becomes more dangerous. I also think he is mentally and emotionally less stable, and thus, to more likely make bad decisions.

Putin is very stable, Genocide Joe and Trump are unstable, Trump could do anything at any time, Genocide Joe didn't know what planet he was on most of the time if he had gone out for a bottle of milk there was no telling where he would end up.

 

[Deadstick]

How is attacking other countries "protecting mother Russia"?

Nobody in Europe or the US wants war with Russia. Putin made a bogeyman so he could get what he wanted, which was WAR.

Nato aggression started long before the war in Ukraine.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nato moved thousands of miles East, hello!

So you can't move thousands of miles west, again.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nato aggression started long before the war in Ukraine.

No, it did not.