In Memory of Those Who Paid the Price

[Gunny]

Mr. Vice President, Mr. Speaker, Members of the Senate, and of the House of Representatives:

Yesterday, December 7th, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy -- the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.

Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to our Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. And while this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or of armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time, the Japanese government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition, American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday, the Japanese government also launched an attack against Malaya.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked Guam.

Last night, Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.

Last night, the Japanese attacked Wake Island.

And this morning, the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.



As commander in chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense. But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.

No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph -- so help us God.

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December 7th, 1941, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese empire.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/fdrpearlharbor.htm

Salute to those perished on December 7, 1941.

 

[Psychoblues]

A good democratic President delivered that address, gunny. But, the wars didn't end there as they were supposed too. As long as there are dollars to be made in warfare there will be wars and extended wars. Simple, but maybe a little too simple for you. In 1968 I truly believed America was beyond profitteering by way of warfare. I was wrong then and you are wrong now.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

A good democratic President delivered that address, gunny. But, the wars didn't end there as they were supposed too. As long as there are dollars to be made in warfare there will be wars and extended wars. Simple, but maybe a little too simple for you. In 1968 I truly believed America was beyond profitteering by way of warfare. I was wrong then and you are wrong now.

You are aware that Viet Nam was a democratic Presidents war right? That a Republican President ended it?

 

[Gunny]

A good democratic President delivered that address, gunny. But, the wars didn't end there as they were supposed too. As long as there are dollars to be made in warfare there will be wars and extended wars. Simple, but maybe a little too simple for you. In 1968 I truly believed America was beyond profitteering by way of warfare. I was wrong then and you are wrong now.

Actually FDR was quite the socialist. I'll also point out the Democrats had yet to be emasculated at that point in time and would actually still fight if provoked.

Beyond that, your political viewpoints are nonsensical. Even worse, I doubt you believe even half what you post ... you just like to stir up shit. Probably ought to seek help for that.

 

[Angel Heart]

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Interesting how most have been started by the Dems... The death count under their watch is amazing.

 

[Psychoblues]

I figured you wouldn't know shit about the Viet Nam War, rgs.

You are aware that Viet Nam was a democratic Presidents war right? That a Republican President ended it?

United States Military entered Viet Nam in 1954 under a very much Republican, Dwight D. Eisenhower, leadership.

A Republican President, Richard Millhouse Nixon, who promised to end it in 1968 carried it on for another 7 or so years and cost many thousands of American and Viet Namese lives was a wolf in sheeps clothing. But you love him anyway, reich?

A Democratic Congress ended that stupid war at last resort. They cut the funding and the murder taking place there.

 

[trobinett]

Salute to those perished on December 7, 1941.

Salute!

 

[Psychoblues]

SALUTE!!!!!!!

Salute!

 

[Psychoblues]

Obviously your Doc hasn't done well for you.

Actually FDR was quite the socialist. I'll also point out the Democrats had yet to be emasculated at that point in time and would actually still fight if provoked.

Beyond that, your political viewpoints are nonsensical. Even worse, I doubt you believe even half what you post ... you just like to stir up shit. Probably ought to seek help for that.

Please pass on his/her name so I can quietly avoid them in my search for additional truth.

Pardon me, gunny, but I did the Viet Nam War but I sure as hell didn't start it or end it. Those are the problems you continue to be confused about.

 

[Gunny]

Obviously your Doc hasn't done well for you.




Please pass on his/her name so I can quietly avoid them in my search for additional truth.

Pardon me, gunny, but I did the Viet Nam War but I sure as hell didn't start it or end it. Those are the problems you continue to be confused about.

You don't want to go to the doc's .... that might cure your problem and THEN where would you be?

Hell, you might want to THEN starting actually responding to the actual topics in theads. The reputation you have worked so hard to achieve as a rambling troll would be shot down in flames.

We can't have THAT, now can we?

 

[Psychoblues]

Silly you.

You don't want to go to the doc's .... that might cure your problem and THEN where would you be?

Hell, you might want to THEN starting actually responding to the actual topics in theads. The reputation you have worked so hard to achieve as a rambling troll would be shot down in flames.

We can't have THAT, now can we?

What shot, what rep and just what topic are you intimating here?

 

[Gunny]

Silly you.



What shot, what rep and just what topic are you intimating here?

Feel free to re-read the post as many times as you like. I answered the question rather clearly.

 

[Psychoblues]

How about you reading my answer and respond with some intelligence and indication that you actually understand?

Feel free to re-read the post as many times as you like. I answered the question rather clearly.

I will not go back to 2 plus 2 and ABC with you, gunny.

 

[actsnoblemartin]

wasnt the country and the two parties split on vietnam?

meaning, being for or against the war had nothing to do with the party affiliation?

 

[actsnoblemartin]

My understanding, we did send military advisors in the mid 50's, i dont know who was president, so ill just take your word for it.

didnt we leave in january 1973?

I know the congress cut the funding, was it a partisan vote though?

republicans for, dems against?

I dont know why the boards want to fight so much, especially about the past.

I am speaking in general

I figured you wouldn't know shit about the Viet Nam War, rgs.



United States Military entered Viet Nam in 1954 under a very much Republican, Dwight D. Eisenhower, leadership.

A Republican President, Richard Millhouse Nixon, who promised to end it in 1968 carried it on for another 7 or so years and cost many thousands of American and Viet Namese lives was a wolf in sheeps clothing. But you love him anyway, reich?

A Democratic Congress ended that stupid war at last resort. They cut the funding and the murder taking place there.

 

[trobinett]

There were MANY hero's in the Vietnam war, some we will never know.

I have no problem with the constant reexamination of that war, but I do wish, that those, that want to revisit those terrible days would get their stories straight.

Many Americans died, and WHO knows where we would be today if they hadn't been willing to put their lives on the line?

The political discussions surrounding our involvement in Vietnam, at this late date, does what, for our understanding of what that conflict means to us, our what later conflicts mean?

Get over it, those of us, that served during that time, and didn't ask, or in most instances receive any thanks for that service have moved on, just wish the rest of you would do the same.

 

[Annie]

There were MANY hero's in the Vietnam war, some we will never know.

I have no problem with the constant reexamination of that war, but I do wish, that those, that want to revisit those terrible days would get their stories straight.

Many Americans died, and WHO knows where we would be today if they hadn't been willing to put their lives on the line?

The political discussions surrounding our involvement in Vietnam, at this late date, does what, for our understanding of what that conflict means to us, our what later conflicts mean?

Get over it, those of us, that served during that time, and didn't ask, or in most instances receive any thanks for that service have moved on, just wish the rest of you would do the same.

those that served in Vietnam, should have been thanked and asked forgiveness for a country that undermined, then blamed them.

 

[Psychoblues]

Just where do you think we might be, trobby? In fuckin' paradise or somewhere even better?

Many Americans died, and WHO knows where we would be today if they hadn't been willing to put their lives on the line?

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Don't patronise the Viet Nam Vets, trobby. We did what we did and could for the country we believed in at the time. If you have a problem with that take it up with the Republicans that got us into that ridiculous exercise in American aristocracy and conservative fear mongering.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Just where do you think we might be, trobby? In fuckin' paradise or somewhere even better?




Don't patronise the Viet Nam Vets, trobby. We did what we did and could for the country we believed in at the time. If you have a problem with that take it up with the Republicans that got us into that ridiculous exercise in American aristocracy and conservative fear mongering.

Do not even know history... Democrats got us in Viet Nam, unless LBJ was really a Republican. Nixon got us out. Now HE was a Republican.

 

[Psychoblues]

You spout revisionist history, turdbreath rgs. The very Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower got us into that war, everybody that has ever read one page of the history of that conflict understands that.

Do not even know history... Democrats got us in Viet Nam, unless LBJ was really a Republican. Nixon got us out. Now HE was a Republican.

Dwight couldn't get us out with any honor so he left the argument for the Demcrats to settle. Admittedly, the Dem's didn't do much better. Ultimately the very Republican Dick Nixon got us out as promised but with great dishonor and shame. Tsk, tsk. I don't know who to blame more for that
American catastrphy. DD Eisenhower or Dick Nixon? Which of them do you blame?