In Less Than a Year, Some 2.1 Million Fewer Illegals in the USA

The Democrats' real problem with ICE is not all the sob stories of alleged injustice. It's their decreased ability to steal elections and manipulate future censuses. Communists care nothing about people. It's all about power.
Its also money that democrats wont get to cater to illegals they no longer have

And it exposes the fact that dems care more about foreiners than they care about Americans
 
If all the GDP Gains go to the one percent, that doesn't help the working class at all.

The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting pooer. This is a fact.
You and the dems are only helping illegal alien working class

For Americans you are doing nothing
 
Well, first, the 493,000 number isn't much better than the numbers deported under Obama and Biden.

Secondly, the "Self-Deport" number is dubious, at best.

If people are self-deporting because the economy is turning to shit, that's not much to be proud of.
And that doesn’t account for new arrivals

I don’t believe for one minute that number is zero
 
Its also money that democrats wont get to cater to illegals they no longer have

And it exposes the fact that dems care more about foreiners than they care about Americans
We know that Trump does.
 
And that doesn’t account for new arrivals

I don’t believe for one minute that number is zero
Probably not zero but rest assure, if caught, they are out the door immediately instead of all inclusive 5 star hotel accommodations like Biden gave them.
 
I sincerely hope it's true, and I hope millions more are to come. :clap:
 
We know that Trump does.
If trump didnt care about Americans he would not have run for president

Unlike the washington swamp rats who had no other prospects besides sucking off the government trump made his billion in the private sector before he came to washington
 
Between 'self deportation' and formal removals.

That is roughly 2.1 million since January 21, 2025, not a full 9 months of work.

Oh, and this isn't the phony Obama counting of people turned back at the border as removals.



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According to DHS data, roughly 493,000 individuals have been formally deported since the start of President Trump’s second term, while another 1.6 million have left voluntarily, a process the agency classifies as “self-deportation.”
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WINNING!!!
 
I can speak from personal experience. I am the “rich” and I pay more than my fair share. I pay a small fortune in taxes every year, particularly federal income tax. My property tax bills are high, mainly due to the number of properties I own. I can only imagine how bad they would be in a blue state. The majority of those property taxes go to schools, of which my children don’t participate, roads, the fire department and the public library, of which I don’t use any more than those paying far less tax than me but I am footing more of the bill.

How is it that me, the “rich” guy, isn’t paying their fair share? What do you consider rich? The Democrats defined it as 400k/yr. There is a huge difference between someone making 400k and Bill Gates or Elon Musk.

Okay, so you pay a 50% tax rate instead of the 70% I would impose on Gates or Musk.

Problem solved.
 
Okay, so you pay a 50% tax rate instead of the 70% I would impose on Gates or Musk.

Problem solved.

Not at all. When adding in the additional taxes I already pay on property, there would be little incentive to make a salary that qualifies for a 50% tax rate.

People should make their own money and stop acting as if somebody that makes more than them bears a much larger responsibility for the same services. My family likely utilizes less of the public services that taxes pay for than those that make much less and yet we are expected to pay more and more and more.
 
If trump didnt care about Americans he would not have run for president

Unlike the washington swamp rats who had no other prospects besides sucking off the government trump made his billion in the private sector before he came to washington
What horse shit. Trump ran for President to stay the **** out of jail
 
Not at all. When adding in the additional taxes I already pay on property, there would be little incentive to make a salary that qualifies for a 50% tax rate.

You mean you'd be less inclined to screw over your employees and customers? Why, that would be awful!!!

Of course, we could go back to just allowing you to deduct your property taxes from that 50%, but Trump got rid of that to screw the Blue states.

People should make their own money and stop acting as if somebody that makes more than them bears a much larger responsibility for the same services. My family likely utilizes less of the public services that taxes pay for than those that make much less and yet we are expected to pay more and more and more.

Yup. And the country works better when the rich pay their fair share.

Here's the thing. Those services aren't going away, and someone has to pay for them. If that idiot Ronnie Ray-Gun hadn't screwed with the sensible tax code, we wouldn't have spent the last 45 years borrowing 30 trillion to pay for services.

You guys always say that you want "smaller government". Here's how you get a smaller government. You make people pay for it.

"We get all these services and we don't have to pay for them" is why you get so many services.
 
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You mean you'd be less inclined to screw over your employees and customers? Why, that would be awful!!!

I don’t screw over anybody. I don’t own a company so don’t have any employees. I have rental properties and my tenants will tell you that I am the easiest going landlord they ever had. I had a commercial tenant just renew her lease after her previous 3 year lease expired. I typically only do 3 year leases, but I allowed her to sign a 2 year lease. She is routinely late with her rent, but I recognize that she is struggling and is making a sincere effort to make the business work. I have never enforced a late fee and I didn’t increase her rent despite insurance and taxes on the property increasing by 25%. I am sure she is aware that I would also not come after her for the remainder of her lease if she had to leave. I simply asked her to give me a heads up if it looked like she was not going to be able to make it so I would have time to find a new tenant before she left. I’m not sure how this qualifies as screwing anybody over.

Of course, we could go back to just allowing you to deduct your property taxes from that 50%, but Trump got rid of that to screw the Blue states.

Why would you want to increase my taxes and then allow me to deduct a large property tax bill from those taxes? Maybe you haven’t realized that proprerty taxes are so high in many blue states that a person could easily decrease their effective tax by quite a bit by writing off all their property tax. That leaves other states to make up the difference in federal tax revenue. I thought the rich were supposed to pay their fair share? Shouldn’t rich states be forced to bear more of the federal tax burden than less wealthy states? Allowing for huge deductions certainly decreases those states contributions and effectively uses those gains taken from the rest of the states to spend it on the local level. Removing the cap encourages these states to spend even more money at the local level and pass the cost on via property tax, which resident then pass on to the rest of the states.

Yup. And the country works better when the rich pay their fair share.

You don’t have a clue what that even means. You don’t have a clue what “rich” people pay. You're repeating a childish and simplistic cliché that's meant to divide people and stir up resentment.

"We get all these services and we don't have to pay for them" is why you get so many services.

I pay more for the same services than others living in the same area.
 
I don’t screw over anybody. I don’t own a company so don’t have any employees. I have rental properties

Don't care.

Why would you want to increase my taxes and then allow me to deduct a large property tax bill from those taxes? Maybe you haven’t realized that proprerty taxes are so high in many blue states that a person could easily decrease their effective tax by quite a bit by writing off all their property tax.

Fairly unlikely. If you are making enough money to pay property taxes on a Mansion or a Michigan Avenue Condo, you are making good money and paying plenty in taxes.

This was the Petulant Orange Child screwing over the parts of the country who don't support him. Not realizing that those parts of the country generate 80% of the economic activity.

You don’t have a clue what that even means. You don’t have a clue what “rich” people pay. You're repeating a childish and simplistic cliché that's meant to divide people and stir up resentment.

I no exactly what that means. The rich paid their fair share before Reagan. Now they don't and the economy hasn't really gotten better, but we are 30 Trillion in debt. Good job, everyone.

I pay more for the same services than others living in the same area.

So do I. Just don't spend time whining about it like you do.
 
Don't care.

You tell me that I am screwing people over. I give you a story showing you how that is not true. Of course you don’t care. In your mind, all “rich” people are evil.

Fairly unlikely. If you are making enough money to pay property taxes on a Mansion or a Michigan Avenue Condo, you are making good money and paying plenty in taxes.

Actually, that is not true. I have family members that live in NJ. Their income is less than 75k/yr and they pay 14k in property taxes. They have owned their home for many years and it has gone up in value. A person making 400k per year could easily be living in a home worth 1.5 million and they would be writing off 33k in federal income tax. At your proposed 50% rate, they would pay ~$16,500 less in federal income taxes.

I no exactly what that means. The rich paid their fair share before Reagan. Now they don't and the economy hasn't really gotten better, but we are 30 Trillion in debt. Good job, everyone.

We are not 30 trillion in debt because the rich aren’t paying enough taxes. Politicians on both sides have an insatiable desire to spend. That is the problem.

So do I. Just don't spend time whining about it like you do.

You just spend your time whining about how I am not paying enough, despite paying more than you.
 
Probably not zero but rest assure, if caught, they are out the door immediately instead of all inclusive 5 star hotel accommodations like Biden gave them.
This makes my blood boil, because the same thing happened here in my country as well (Canada). The little ******* SHIT Trudeau would be generous with our tax money and put refugees in hotels, giving them nice rooms with wifi and treating them to a breakfast buffet downstairs. These politicians love being generous with other people's money, that other people sweated and broke their backs to earn, and they make nice names for themselves as a humanitarian, meanwhile Canadians have to make do with ever-dwindling incomes. It fills me with homicidal rage.



What horse shit. Trump ran for President to stay the **** out of jail
This makes so little sense as to be comical. Imagine a criminal wants to get out of jail. What does he do? "I think maybe I will run for presidency. That is such a good way to stay out of jail and is totally not over-kill". You're an idiot.
 

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