Immigration... Whats wrong with the GOP?

The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.

True enough, a person can make 15,000 a year on welfare, just guessing. Would you give that up to go work in the fields for 10,000 a year? Who would do that? What apparently the left wants is a modern slave class working fields breaking their backs for minimum wage.
 
According to the law illegals are not supposed to be able to get work.

Why are liberals so against enforcing the Rule of Law?

What's wrong with the GOP? Nothing...

Obama has violated the Constitution, Rule of Law, engaged in human trafficking, been found in Contemp of Court, and has made illegals a higher priority than US citizens.

What is wrong with Liberals?!
Im not against the law or enforcing the law. However the problem is what it is and we are not going to deport 11 million people, if you think that is feasible then your are delusional. The situation needs to be dealt with and I personally think it a smarter idea to utilize the potential that adding 11 million into the workforce would do for our economy rather than investing so much time and money into blocking and deporting.

It's easily feasible, and not deporting them poses even bigger problems. For one, it allows 11 million more Democrats into the country, and that's the last thing we need. For another, it encourages more illegal immigration.

These people need to go back where they came from. There is simply no rational argument for allowing them to stay.
Hey an honest answer!!! Scared of never winning another election. First thing I've heard from a righty that makes sense!

Of course that's an issue. Do you really think that if illegals all voted Republican that Democrats would be doing everything possible to turn them into voters as they are now?

The last thing this country needs is more people trying to vote themselves part of someone else's paycheck.
Democrats run on a human rights and equality platform... Sooner or later the GOP will see that these issues are important to a majority of people in this country. Maybe then they will get back in the game
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

One reason we don't start producing more is because of things like Bill Clinton's NAFTA. How anyone expects US worker so complete with 3rd world slaves is anyone's guess.

As for farm help. I realize you want your lettece picked on the cheap but those folks doing it are not illegal they have work visas. No one, NO ONE, has a problem with legal immigration.

I assume in the next week you will post about how the poor are getting a bad shake by the rich. Yet in the next post you will be all for more illegal uneducated low skilled workers flooding our borders. It makes no sense, it is nonsense.

You are an employer. You have many bills to pay. You have a choice to hire an American worker or a foreigner for less wages. Which one are you going to hire?

Before you answer, the pot is sweetened: If you hire the American, you have to provide him with health insurance under Commie Care. If you hire the foreigner, he or she is not under the provisions of Commie Care. If your employees are around the 50 person count, in order to avoid Obama Care, you must keep it under 50 full-time working AMERICANS!

Thanks Obama.........
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.

True enough, a person can make 15,000 a year on welfare, just guessing. Would you give that up to go work in the fields for 10,000 a year? Who would do that? What apparently the left wants is a modern slave class working fields breaking their backs for minimum wage.

That is the problem. In NYC for example, they found that you do better on welfare (in cash value) than a starting school teacher in the city.
 
According to the law illegals are not supposed to be able to get work.

Why are liberals so against enforcing the Rule of Law?

What's wrong with the GOP? Nothing...

Obama has violated the Constitution, Rule of Law, engaged in human trafficking, been found in Contemp of Court, and has made illegals a higher priority than US citizens.

What is wrong with Liberals?!
Im not against the law or enforcing the law. However the problem is what it is and we are not going to deport 11 million people, if you think that is feasible then your are delusional. The situation needs to be dealt with and I personally think it a smarter idea to utilize the potential that adding 11 million into the workforce would do for our economy rather than investing so much time and money into blocking and deporting.

It's easily feasible, and not deporting them poses even bigger problems. For one, it allows 11 million more Democrats into the country, and that's the last thing we need. For another, it encourages more illegal immigration.

These people need to go back where they came from. There is simply no rational argument for allowing them to stay.
Hey an honest answer!!! Scared of never winning another election. First thing I've heard from a righty that makes sense!

Of course that's an issue. Do you really think that if illegals all voted Republican that Democrats would be doing everything possible to turn them into voters as they are now?

The last thing this country needs is more people trying to vote themselves part of someone else's paycheck.
Democrats run on a human rights and equality platform... Sooner or later the GOP will see that these issues are important to a majority of people in this country. Maybe then they will get back in the game

Wrong. Democrats run on promising free stuff to ticks on the ass of society paid for by you and me.. Bernie and Hillary are both promising free college, free child care and free healthcare.

Who do you think you're kidding?
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.

True enough, a person can make 15,000 a year on welfare, just guessing. Would you give that up to go work in the fields for 10,000 a year? Who would do that? What apparently the left wants is a modern slave class working fields breaking their backs for minimum wage.

I've seen estimates that when you include free housing, free food, free medical care and all the other benefits that they receive as much as $45,000/yr in benefits.
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.
I wouldn't consider your dinner tonight an infection... It came from the ground to your mouth at the hands of an immigrant, i promise you that. Your lack of imagination would disqualify you from being part of a healthy discussion regarding job opportunities for both our immigrants and unemployed. There are many many many viable options.
 
Im not against the law or enforcing the law. However the problem is what it is and we are not going to deport 11 million people, if you think that is feasible then your are delusional. The situation needs to be dealt with and I personally think it a smarter idea to utilize the potential that adding 11 million into the workforce would do for our economy rather than investing so much time and money into blocking and deporting.

It's easily feasible, and not deporting them poses even bigger problems. For one, it allows 11 million more Democrats into the country, and that's the last thing we need. For another, it encourages more illegal immigration.

These people need to go back where they came from. There is simply no rational argument for allowing them to stay.
Hey an honest answer!!! Scared of never winning another election. First thing I've heard from a righty that makes sense!

Of course that's an issue. Do you really think that if illegals all voted Republican that Democrats would be doing everything possible to turn them into voters as they are now?

The last thing this country needs is more people trying to vote themselves part of someone else's paycheck.
Democrats run on a human rights and equality platform... Sooner or later the GOP will see that these issues are important to a majority of people in this country. Maybe then they will get back in the game

Wrong. Democrats run on promising free stuff to ticks on the ass of society paid for by you and me.. Bernie and Hillary are both promising free college, free child care and free healthcare.

Who do you think you're kidding?

Actually, I though we already had those things.

The government gives out vouchers for child care. When the lowlifes started moving into our suburb, we became overwhelmed with child care centers. Obambo Care promises poor people free medical care under the Medicaid expansion. So they are more than half-way there now!
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.
I wouldn't consider your dinner tonight an infection... It came from the ground to your mouth at the hands of an immigrant, i promise you that. Your lack of imagination would disqualify you from being part of a healthy discussion regarding job opportunities for both our immigrants and unemployed. There are many many many viable options.

Give us one decent reason why any illegal alien should be provided with a job taken from an American rather than being deported.
 
Im not against the law or enforcing the law. However the problem is what it is and we are not going to deport 11 million people, if you think that is feasible then your are delusional. The situation needs to be dealt with and I personally think it a smarter idea to utilize the potential that adding 11 million into the workforce would do for our economy rather than investing so much time and money into blocking and deporting.

It's easily feasible, and not deporting them poses even bigger problems. For one, it allows 11 million more Democrats into the country, and that's the last thing we need. For another, it encourages more illegal immigration.

These people need to go back where they came from. There is simply no rational argument for allowing them to stay.
Hey an honest answer!!! Scared of never winning another election. First thing I've heard from a righty that makes sense!

Of course that's an issue. Do you really think that if illegals all voted Republican that Democrats would be doing everything possible to turn them into voters as they are now?

The last thing this country needs is more people trying to vote themselves part of someone else's paycheck.
Democrats run on a human rights and equality platform... Sooner or later the GOP will see that these issues are important to a majority of people in this country. Maybe then they will get back in the game

Wrong. Democrats run on promising free stuff to ticks on the ass of society paid for by you and me.. Bernie and Hillary are both promising free college, free child care and free healthcare.

Who do you think you're kidding?
And what assholes gave us free roads, mail service, and protection against enemies both domestic and abroad?
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?

First we have to create good jobs for our (legal) citizens....then worry about jobs for illegals. Where are your priorities? Illegals don't get to go to the front of the line. They can always return to where they came from.
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.
I wouldn't consider your dinner tonight an infection... It came from the ground to your mouth at the hands of an immigrant, i promise you that. Your lack of imagination would disqualify you from being part of a healthy discussion regarding job opportunities for both our immigrants and unemployed. There are many many many viable options.

JOB OPPORTUNITIES 101:

Job opportunities and wages are based on a supply and demand basis.

When there is more demand than supply, prices increase. When there is more supply than demand, prices decrease.

Median wages in the US have been stagnant during the entire DumBama administration. Wages don't increase when you have an endless supply of workers. If you starve the market of workers, wages have to increase because producers have to get employees to do the work or otherwise, the work doesn't get done.
 
It's easily feasible, and not deporting them poses even bigger problems. For one, it allows 11 million more Democrats into the country, and that's the last thing we need. For another, it encourages more illegal immigration.

These people need to go back where they came from. There is simply no rational argument for allowing them to stay.
Hey an honest answer!!! Scared of never winning another election. First thing I've heard from a righty that makes sense!

Of course that's an issue. Do you really think that if illegals all voted Republican that Democrats would be doing everything possible to turn them into voters as they are now?

The last thing this country needs is more people trying to vote themselves part of someone else's paycheck.
Democrats run on a human rights and equality platform... Sooner or later the GOP will see that these issues are important to a majority of people in this country. Maybe then they will get back in the game

Wrong. Democrats run on promising free stuff to ticks on the ass of society paid for by you and me.. Bernie and Hillary are both promising free college, free child care and free healthcare.

Who do you think you're kidding?
And what assholes gave us free roads, mail service, and protection against enemies both domestic and abroad?

They aren't free for me. I pay taxes for all that stuff. Illegal aliens and other welfare ticks, on the other hand, have done nothing to earn the benefits they receive.
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.

True enough, a person can make 15,000 a year on welfare, just guessing. Would you give that up to go work in the fields for 10,000 a year? Who would do that? What apparently the left wants is a modern slave class working fields breaking their backs for minimum wage.

I've seen estimates that when you include free housing, free food, free medical care and all the other benefits that they receive as much as $45,000/yr in benefits.

Cash value of welfare spending to households in poverty greater than median household income
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.
I wouldn't consider your dinner tonight an infection... It came from the ground to your mouth at the hands of an immigrant, i promise you that. Your lack of imagination would disqualify you from being part of a healthy discussion regarding job opportunities for both our immigrants and unemployed. There are many many many viable options.

Give us one decent reason why any illegal alien should be provided with a job taken from an American rather than being deported.
There are 11 million reasons
 
What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.

True enough, a person can make 15,000 a year on welfare, just guessing. Would you give that up to go work in the fields for 10,000 a year? Who would do that? What apparently the left wants is a modern slave class working fields breaking their backs for minimum wage.

I've seen estimates that when you include free housing, free food, free medical care and all the other benefits that they receive as much as $45,000/yr in benefits.

Cash value of welfare spending to households in poverty greater than median household income
Why are you still talking about welfare?
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


Look there's no such thing as "illegal immigration" these are not immigrants. These are law breaking losers who do not qualify to immigrate to the United States they do not meet our requirements and we are going to deport their ass and build a wall to keep them out.
 
What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

Your insight of economics is humorous.

We do not build communities because we have nothing better to do, we build communities because there is a demand. Same thing for products. As long as Americans are consumed with cheap products, you could take half this country and build industry and it won't do squat.

Immigration infects more than fields, they are in nearly every line of work in America and keeping wages low. You will find Americans do to any job, but the pay has to be acceptable and we need to severely cut down on our social goodies we currently give out that keep people from finding work.
I wouldn't consider your dinner tonight an infection... It came from the ground to your mouth at the hands of an immigrant, i promise you that. Your lack of imagination would disqualify you from being part of a healthy discussion regarding job opportunities for both our immigrants and unemployed. There are many many many viable options.

Give us one decent reason why any illegal alien should be provided with a job taken from an American rather than being deported.
There are 11 million reasons

You mean the 11 million Americans are without a job because of those illegals?
 
The GOP is supposed to be the job friendly party that promotes free enterprise... When it comes to illegal immigration why is nobody proposing a way to create jobs and put 11 million immigrants to work? We have a tremendous opportunity to kickstart our industries and the workforce available to do it. Why not utilize it? Why does nobody explore this avenue instead of wasting years and billions of dollars fighting to send them back and shrink our economic potential?


What does free enterprise have to do with illegal immigration. If you think creating jobs was so easy, don't you think someone would have done it? What's your plan?

Every illegal takes a job from an American and also drives down the wages of Americans who are working. That's why they have to go. If you say they should stay, you're saying you want to crap on American citizens. It's as simple as that.
First of all if you think Americans are praying at night to hit the fields and pick fruit and veggies until their backs break, then you are nutz... We are way to spoiled and entitled to do that. Fact, many Mexican immigrants do the jobs that we "American" are too privileged to do.

Second, here is a plan... Drive across middle America and note how much open land there is... Why not start building communities, industry, agriculture... Start actually producing shit so we aren't dependent on foreign imports. Connect our cities with a bullet train line to make domestic travel and shipping faster. Colonize Mars and start charging the citizens for air... There are plenty of things that we can do. Im not saying it is an easy answer but the conversation isn't being had or explored... I would think this would fit well with the GOP agenda but all i hear is vast opposition to anything that considers accepting and utilizing illegal immigrants to help progress our nation.

One reason we don't start producing more is because of things like Bill Clinton's NAFTA. How anyone expects US worker so complete with 3rd world slaves is anyone's guess.

As for farm help. I realize you want your lettece picked on the cheap but those folks doing it are not illegal they have work visas. No one, NO ONE, has a problem with legal immigration.

I assume in the next week you will post about how the poor are getting a bad shake by the rich. Yet in the next post you will be all for more illegal uneducated low skilled workers flooding our borders. It makes no sense, it is nonsense.

You are an employer. You have many bills to pay. You have a choice to hire an American worker or a foreigner for less wages. Which one are you going to hire?

Before you answer, the pot is sweetened: If you hire the American, you have to provide him with health insurance under Commie Care. If you hire the foreigner, he or she is not under the provisions of Commie Care. If your employees are around the 50 person count, in order to avoid Obama Care, you must keep it under 50 full-time working AMERICANS!

Thanks Obama.........
We should obviously have incentives to hire American... This is a different discussion
 

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