Immigration “due process” considered

[jc456]

Trump Approves National Guard JAG Officers as Immigration Judges

Florida’s plan, approved by President Trump in July 2025, uses nine National Guard JAG officers as immigration judges at a new South Florida detention center. Designed to speed deportations, the policy faces criticism over limited training, judicial independence, and potential due process...

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Due process means “that process to which you are due. “

So, the question here is: “to what process is any person due when he is not even legally here in the first place?”

Note: that’s a question. It is not the answer.

When arrested and tried for a crime, an illegal alien defendant has all the Constitutional rights which we all have and which you could dream of — so we have a partial answer: an illegal alien has the very same due process rights as citizens in criminal cases. And, there is a simple, clear and fair set of explanations for why this is so. Suffice it to say, the Constitution says so.

We also know that there is not that high a “level” of “due process” in other matters. (Traditional rules of evidence get relaxed in some civil cases and at administrative hearings and proceedings.)

I assume that all of us are well-versed enough in the immigration system to grasp that it is not an Article III court. One of the things that follows from all of this is the fact that Immigration Courts, in our land, are under the Executive Branch.

If circumstances warrant it, then under the division of power and authority of our Constitutional government, the President can authorize the use of our national guard to serve as immigration “judges.” (Maybe he even gave the Gov in Fla that idea!)

BREAKING: Florida's Wild Plan to Use National Guard as Immigration Judges! - County Local News

The plan was submitted to President Donald trump, indicating a strategic alignment with federal immigration policies that prioritize enforcement and

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process due. That with which you wrote is not it.

 

[BackAgain]

What is known as Due Process. You may argue what is “Due” but you cannot deny the process

You are being obtuse. I’ve already granted that they are entitled to due process. The question remains the same anyway: to what process are they due?

Snatching someone off the street and shipping to a Hell Hole Prison without a chance to see the evidence against you is not Due Process

Not what happens, but there may be some exceptions.

Oh yea…..Trump did not like his tattoos

Damn, you’re an imbecile.

 

[jknowgood]

So?
They are entitled to the same due process as anyone else accused of a crime

They are gonna get it in Florida. De santitis is planing on processing them and having them on a flight home within 48 hours after they get them. Isn't that great?

 

[BackAgain]

process due. That with which you wrote is not it.

You didn’t write a coherent post.

I wrote with a cell phone in a message board. That has nothing to do with due process.

If you can’t identify what process is “due” in any particular matter (and you can’t), then you can’t deny that due process was provided.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Same process as any other person accused of a crime.

A right to know the charges against them
A right to see the evidence
A right to an attorney
A right to respond to those charges in court

That's just another measure in making citizenship meaningless, which in the land of open borders I suppose is the point of it all.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Same process as any other person accused of a crime.

A right to know the charges against them
A right to see the evidence
A right to an attorney
A right to respond to those charges in court

Court? Evidence?

If they can't show evidence they are here legally, buh-bye!

 

[Kondor3]

Same process as any other person accused of a crime.

A right to know the charges against them
A right to see the evidence
A right to an attorney
A right to respond to those charges in court

You're absolutely right.

Time to set up a centralized VIRTUAL Immigration Court.

Staffed by deputized retired judges and lawyers, local magistrates, justices of the peace, etc..

Send 'em all to a 1-day video training on the subject.

Organize 'em into 1st, 2nd and 3rd shifts, with enough warm-bodies to handle the average volume-per-day.

Every detention center to have high-speed video-conference access for simultaneous hearings for multiple detainees.

The Virtual Court can be spread across the country in all time zones and processing 24 hours a day... high-speed hearings.

Detained Illegal Aliens get a half-dozen-or-so days to "out-process" through the Virtual Immigration Court system.

If they have not successfully established "good cause" to grant them a temporary residency permit then out-they-go.

Never once stepping outside the detention facility, unless they're granted that permit.

Make it a production line, canned script, predetermined asylum outcomes for claimants from certain countries, etc.

Get it running 24 x 7... a regular Deportation Due Process Production Line.

 

[BackAgain]

What is known as Due Process. You may argue what is “Due” but you cannot deny the proces

I can deny that any given particular process is due for particular matters where they don’t apply. Seems like you can’t hold two thoughts in your tiny little brain at the same time.

Snatching someone off the street and shipping to a Hell Hole Prison without a chance to see the evidence against you is not Due Process

It hasn’t happened.

Oh yea…..Trump did not like his tattoos

 

[rightwinger]

I can deny that any given particular process is due for particular matters where they don’t apply.

Word salad

 

[g5000]

Trump Approves National Guard JAG Officers as Immigration Judges

Florida’s plan, approved by President Trump in July 2025, uses nine National Guard JAG officers as immigration judges at a new South Florida detention center. Designed to speed deportations, the policy faces criticism over limited training, judicial independence, and potential due process...

www.visaverge.com

Due process means “that process to which you are due. “

So, the question here is: “to what process is any person due when he is not even legally here in the first place?”

Do you know what "inalienable" means?

You don't get to pick and choose which humans have rights.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you know what "inalienable" means?

You don't get to pick and choose which humans have rights.

They have an inalienable right to a speedy deportation.

 

[BackAgain]

Word salad

I was responding to yours, simp.

 

[BackAgain]

Do you know what "inalienable" means?

You don't get to pick and choose which humans have rights.

Nobody has a “right” to enter our nation or remain in our nation illegally.

Words have actual meaning, you jackass. You just don’t understand those meanings.

 

[jc456]

You didn’t write a coherent post.

I wrote with a cell phone in a message board. That has nothing to do with due process.

If you can’t identify what process is “due” in any particular matter (and you can’t), then you can’t deny that due process was provided.

If I recall, the issue is whether Illegals get the same process as criminal citizens, they don’t . That’s it

 

[BackAgain]

If I recall, the issue is whether Illegals get the same process as criminal citizens, they don’t . That’s it

Wrong. In a criminal case an illegal alien gets EXACTLY the same due process rights as citizens get.

That’s it.

 

[rightwinger]

I was responding to yours, simp.

Is English your second language?
You seem to struggle

 

[rightwinger]

Wrong. In a criminal case an illegal alien gets EXACTLY the same due process rights as citizens get.

That’s it.

And in an immigration case they still get due process

What a country

 

[jc456]

Wrong. In a criminal case an illegal alien gets EXACTLY the same due process rights as citizens get.

That’s it.

nope, all you need to do is support it. Because I always bring receipts

Due Process and Aliens: What They Are and Are Not Entitled to in Immigration Proceedings

Some critics of the Trump Administration’s enforcement of federal immigration law, including members of the public, the media, and Congress, have made misleading claims about the due process rights that apply in immigration proceedings. Those who claim that non-citizens, referred to in our...

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Immigration cases are civil rather than criminal proceedings, and aliens have limited due process rights as defined by Congress and Supreme Court precedents. Those rights differ depending on whether aliens are trying to enter this country or are already here, legally or illegally, as well as their visa or other status.

 

[BackAgain]

Is English your second language?
You seem to struggle

Again. Mere projection from Leftwhiner, the libtarded hack troll and established liar.

Worry about your own awful grasp of language, hack. Also, try to post intelligently as well as intelligibly. You’re failing bad at both.

 

[BackAgain]

And in an immigration case they still get due process

What a country

And again, the question remains “to what ‘process’ are illegal immigrants ‘due’? “

You’ve maintained at least two or three times some horseshit about removal with no being confronted with evidence against them. There may be some exceptions; but, as a general rule, they do get hearings in which the evidence against them is presented.

Sorry you have such problems with reality.