Immigration “due process” considered

[jc456]

Even he thinks y

Given how much you reply, offhand it seems that you care.

I’ve both prosecuted illegal aliens and later defended some. Is “yes” a clear enough answer?

No. I don’t say an illegal alien can be dismissed. His case can be dismissed if it is based on a defective or deficient grand jury presentment. Same as can a citizen’s case. For the same due process reasons. As I said.

An illegal alien, in an American immigration court proceeding, is not entitled to free legal representation. The process to which he is due isn’t the same in an immigration “court” proceeding as it is for him in a criminal court proceeding.

Not possible to show you what you don’t seem to be grasping. If the illegal alien didn’t demand a full removal proceeding but, instead, agreed to simply accept the inevitability of removal, then there is no further immigration court proceeding needed any longer.

Even he thinks you’re acting like a demofk

 

[BackAgain]

Oh for fk sake, now you’re whining like a demofk. How hard is it to hop from each of our posts?

Less than a minute

I went through and saw no post from you supporting your claim. Is it so hard to just answer it, you *****?

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Immigration “due process” considered

Your post was here: Immigration “due process” considered

The link doesn’t even begin to address anything I had discussed. You were simply obtuse. By the way, the Von Spassky position is correct and I never disputed it nor did I ever claim anything to the contrary.

Your comprehension sucks.

 

[BackAgain]

Even he thinks y

Even he thinks you’re acting like a demofk

Liar. You lie like a Democrap.

 

[toobfreak]

there is no further immigration court proceeding needed any longer.

I never met a legal case where the particulars were up to me, but if that is the case and the law doesn't care for a full court hearing, works for me. Only way we will ever get rid of 40 million illegals is to march them out the F-king door ASAP.

 

[BackAgain]

I never met a legal case where the particulars were up to me, but if that is the case and the law doesn't care for a full court hearing, works for me. Only way we will ever get rid of 40 million illegals is to march them out the F-king door ASAP.

We could also incentivize some of our illegal aliens to self deport by granting them the right to come back legally, at some future point, provided they otherwise meet eligibility requirements (like no criminal record while they were here illegally) and go to the back of the line for legal immigration.

It’s like how to eat an elephant. It’s one small bite at a time. And priority demands that those who commit crimes here get removed as swiftly as possible.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Same process as any other person accused of a crime.

A right to know the charges against them
A right to see the evidence
A right to an attorney
A right to respond to those charges in court

In a criminal case yes, as the OP stated. But not for entering our Country illegally.

 

[toobfreak]

We could also incentivize some of our illegal aliens to self deport by granting them the right to come back legally, at some future point,

I thought we were--- I think I heard someone quote that so far, something like 12,000 or 25,000 have elected to self-deport.
I have no problem with immigrants. My great grandparents and some grandparents were immigrants. Leave the country on good terms (no crimes while here) and apply to return legally and I'm good with it.

 

[gtopa1]

What is known as Due Process. You may argue what is “Due” but you cannot deny the process

Snatching someone off the street and shipping to a Hell Hole Prison without a chance to see the evidence against you is not Due Process

Oh yea…..Trump did not like his tattoos

So everyone who arrives at an airport from in the US without a visa can't be sent straight back home??? Are you bloody kidding me???

Greg

 

[Seymour Flops]

So?
They are entitled to the same due process as anyone else accused of a crime

Yes, if they were being prosecuted for the crime if illegally crossing the border.

To be deported because they are here illegally is an civil matter, not a criminal one, and far less process is due.

That's why sanctuary officals are claiming that they will honor "criminal warrants," but not civil removal orders.

 

[jc456]

I went through and saw no post from you supporting your claim. Is it so hard to just answer it, you *****?

Your post was here: Immigration “due process” considered

The link doesn’t even begin to address anything I had discussed. You were simply obtuse. By the way, the Von Spassky position is correct and I never disputed it nor did I ever claim anything to the contrary.

Your comprehension sucks.

I even posted the paragraph

 

[BackAgain]

I thought we were--- I think I heard someone quote that so far, something like 12,000 or 25,000 have elected to self-deport.
I have no problem with immigrants. My great grandparents and some grandparents were immigrants. Leave the country on good terms (no crimes while here) and apply to return legally and I'm good with it.

That’s because you are sensible. America has a great record on immigration. We are more open and tolerant and grant more immigration than any other nation on Earth. It’s a proud heritage (at least in modern times).

However, the topic at hand isn’t about legal immigration. The topic is about illegal immigration and how to deal with the huge numbers of illegal aliens already here.

The new act adds some significant help.

 

[BackAgain]

I even posted the paragraph

Again. It doesn’t say anything I have disagreed with. And it doesn’t support your nonsense.

 

[toobfreak]

The topic is about illegal immigration and how to deal with the huge numbers of illegal aliens already here.

Trump and Homan seem to have a pretty good handle on it. The other day I heard that southern border crossings were essentially down to ZERO. And now that interference from district judges seems to have been quelled by the USSC, I'm guessing things will be turning up on high heat now.

 

[jc456]

Again. It doesn’t say anything I have disagreed with. And it doesn’t support your nonsense.

Like I said post the law then.

Prove it

 

[BackAgain]

Trump and Homan seem to have a pretty good handle on it. The other day I heard that southern border crossings were essentially down to ZERO. And now that interference from district judges seems to have been quelled by the USSC, I'm guessing things will be turning up on high heat now.

Agreed. Your lips to God’s ear.

 

[BackAgain]

Like I said post the law then.

Prove it

You’re a moron. Which thing — of the several things I posted — do you imagine now requires a citation to “law?”

Try to be specific. I’ll be pleased to assist you in overcoming your abject ignorance.

You kinda suck at communicating as well as at comprehension.

 

[toobfreak]

Agreed. Your lips to God’s ear.

I'd rather it were my boot sewn to Biden's ass.

I do believe Trump's people ARE looking into the legalities and possibility of holding various people like Mayorkas and others guilty of anything they can find.

 

[BackAgain]

I'd rather it were my boot sewn to Biden's ass.

I do believe Trump's people ARE looking into the legalities and possibility of holding various people like Mayorkas and others guilty of anything they can find.

I’d be gratified if they’d prosecute him for Contempt of Congress (at long last). It’s been over a year already.

 

[jc456]

You’re a moron. Which thing — of the several things I posted — do you imagine now requires a citation to “law?”

Try to be specific. I’ll be pleased to assist you in overcoming your abject ignorance.

You kinda suck at communicating as well as at comprehension.

See, I don’t do demofk

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Same process as any other person accused of a crime.

A right to know the charges against them
A right to see the evidence
A right to an attorney
A right to respond to those charges in court

1- they know the charge they are here illegally.

2- They have no documents. There’s you proof.

3- No, you can’t be here illegally and demand a lawyer or trial at our expense. You paid coyotes to get here, get your own lawyer.

4- Respond away, you have about 3 ******* minutes to show your papers.