Imagine a US where we all lived by the Bible

[presonorek]

Almost everybody has an internet connection and access to porn. There is no excuse for engaging in dangerous sexual behavior in these modern times.

Internet porn does not compare to the feel of real flesh.....or do you not know that?

I have been married 13 years so yes. I do know that but I am not an animal with no self control. I see lots of booty that I would love to grab but I don't. I would hate to get the itchy Willy or anything silly like that. I kind of use my brain and it has worked so far.

Getting AIDS is dumb.

So a patient that contracts AIDS by a blood transfusion is dumb and should be executed for the good of the Godly....How ironic...Do you always lust for the death of children?

What verse of the Bible are you reading?
Which post of mine are you reading?

Sodomy
Pre marital sex
Adultery

There is no condemnation for receiving a blood transfusion.

You are adding things that was never said by anybody.

 

[Moonglow]

Almost everybody has an internet connection and access to porn. There is no excuse for engaging in dangerous sexual behavior in these modern times.

Internet porn does not compare to the feel of real flesh.....or do you not know that?

I have been married 13 years so yes. I do know that but I am not an animal with no self control. I see lots of booty that I would love to grab but I don't. I would hate to get the itchy Willy or anything silly like that. I kind of use my brain and it has worked so far.

Getting AIDS is dumb.

So a patient that contracts AIDS by a blood transfusion is dumb and should be executed for the good of the Godly....How ironic...Do you always lust for the death of children?

What verse of the Bible are you reading?

Sodomy
Pre marital sex
Adultery

There is no condemnation for receiving a blood transfusion.

Considering this is not a Jewish nation

 

[presonorek]

Almost everybody has an internet connection and access to porn. There is no excuse for engaging in dangerous sexual behavior in these modern times.

Internet porn does not compare to the feel of real flesh.....or do you not know that?

I have been married 13 years so yes. I do know that but I am not an animal with no self control. I see lots of booty that I would love to grab but I don't. I would hate to get the itchy Willy or anything silly like that. I kind of use my brain and it has worked so far.

Getting AIDS is dumb.

So a patient that contracts AIDS by a blood transfusion is dumb and should be executed for the good of the Godly....How ironic...Do you always lust for the death of children?

I didn't realize that blood transfusions were a significant factor in the spread of AIDS.

AIDS is more commonly spread through sex with sexual partners that are unmarried to each other's. You don't use outrageous outliers to make an argument. That's as dumb as having sex with random whores.

 

[presonorek]

Almost everybody has an internet connection and access to porn. There is no excuse for engaging in dangerous sexual behavior in these modern times.

Internet porn does not compare to the feel of real flesh.....or do you not know that?

I have been married 13 years so yes. I do know that but I am not an animal with no self control. I see lots of booty that I would love to grab but I don't. I would hate to get the itchy Willy or anything silly like that. I kind of use my brain and it has worked so far.

Getting AIDS is dumb.

So a patient that contracts AIDS by a blood transfusion is dumb and should be executed for the good of the Godly....How ironic...Do you always lust for the death of children?

What verse of the Bible are you reading?

Sodomy
Pre marital sex
Adultery

There is no condemnation for receiving a blood transfusion.

Considering this is not a Jewish nation

That is not a complete sentence. I'm going to sleep.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Most Christians today have no clue what Christ was about.

Maybe you never heard the silence.

 

[zaangalewa]

Instigators of very heavy crimes like murder are not in a good position.

Pastor Steven Anderson wasn't advocating murder. The Bible wasn't advocating murder.

You said before:

... In the video, Anderson cites a Bible passage he says is the "cure" for AIDS:

"Here's what the Bible says, Leviticus 20:13, 'If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.' And that, my friend, is the cure for AIDS. It was right there in the Bible all along."

His message is that killing gays is a divinely sanctioned way to rid the world of AIDS. ...

I would say this speaks not only about murder - this speaks even about mass-murder.

He was referring to capital punishment. The government would execute offenders justly and humanely. Pastor Steven Anderson is strongly opposed to vigilante behavior. You have it all wrong.

A lawful execution is not murder.

One of the best jokes in Auschwitz-Birkenau besides the joke Auschwitz-Birkenau itselve, I guess.

By the way, this method would rid the United States of AIDS more efficiently than raising money and conducting research. Anybody can tell that. They are just afraid to admit it.

What about to nuke the USA? This could also solve the problem with Aids in the USA very efficient.

 

[Billo_Really]

Maybe you never heard the silence.

What does that have to do with all these bullshit Christians running around thinking they can be for God and for war, at the same time? You cannot hold a bible in one hand and a gun in the other and think your following Christ. Anyone who thinks they can, answer this question...

"How would Jesus have bombed Fallujah?"​

 

[zaangalewa]

Maybe you never heard the silence.

What does that have to do with all these bullshit Christians running around thinking they can be for God and for war, at the same time? You cannot hold a bible in one hand and a gun in the other and think your following Christ. Anyone who thinks they can, answer this question...

"How would Jesus have bombed Fallujah?"​

First: Christians worldwide did not agree with the american government under G.W. Bush when the USA attacked the Iraq under the doctrine "preemptive strike". Second: Nevertheless everyone has the right to defend himselve and his people. So a Christian is able to kill if necessary. Third: I don't know what the USA did in the Iraq (Fallujah). I grew up under people where nearly everyone was convinced the USA has no idea about what war is. In guess we see in Americans somehow our own grandchildren playing in sand boxes and are calling this games "war". I heard some people were even speaking about the "entertainment wars" of the USA for example - specially in case of the Iraq.

 

[zaangalewa]

Almost everybody has an internet connection and access to porn. There is no excuse for engaging in dangerous sexual behavior in these modern times.

Internet porn does not compare to the feel of real flesh.....or do you not know that?

I have been married 13 years so yes. I do know that but I am not an animal with no self control. I see lots of booty that I would love to grab but I don't. I would hate to get the itchy Willy or anything silly like that. I kind of use my brain and it has worked so far.

Getting AIDS is dumb.

So a patient that contracts AIDS by a blood transfusion is dumb and should be executed for the good of the Godly....How ironic...Do you always lust for the death of children?

What verse of the Bible are you reading?

Sodomy
Pre marital sex
Adultery

There is no condemnation for receiving a blood transfusion.

Considering this is not a Jewish nation

Fortunatelly or unfortunatelly? What about if god speaks yiddish?

 

[Moonglow]

Internet porn does not compare to the feel of real flesh.....or do you not know that?

I have been married 13 years so yes. I do know that but I am not an animal with no self control. I see lots of booty that I would love to grab but I don't. I would hate to get the itchy Willy or anything silly like that. I kind of use my brain and it has worked so far.

Getting AIDS is dumb.

So a patient that contracts AIDS by a blood transfusion is dumb and should be executed for the good of the Godly....How ironic...Do you always lust for the death of children?

What verse of the Bible are you reading?

Sodomy
Pre marital sex
Adultery

There is no condemnation for receiving a blood transfusion.

Considering this is not a Jewish nation

Fortunatelly or unfortunatelly? What about if god speaks yiddish?

Then he's a German Jew.....

 

[zaangalewa]

I have been married 13 years so yes. I do know that but I am not an animal with no self control. I see lots of booty that I would love to grab but I don't. I would hate to get the itchy Willy or anything silly like that. I kind of use my brain and it has worked so far.

Getting AIDS is dumb.

So a patient that contracts AIDS by a blood transfusion is dumb and should be executed for the good of the Godly....How ironic...Do you always lust for the death of children?

What verse of the Bible are you reading?

Sodomy
Pre marital sex
Adultery

There is no condemnation for receiving a blood transfusion.

Considering this is not a Jewish nation

Fortunatelly or unfortunatelly? What about if god speaks yiddish?

Then he's a German Jew.....

and was killed from his brothers in Auschwitz-Birkenau so you are not able to believe in god?

 

[XploreR]

Not all of the Bible is Christian. The Old Testament is Jewish, written more than 400 years before Jesus lived. The New Testament is Christian, but covers mostly the teachings of Paul rather than Jesus. The Old and New Testament are completely different books with nearly opposite views of God. The Old Testament teaches a primitive, self-absorbed, self-serving, harsh, hostile, judgemental, unforgiving God. The New Testament teaches a compassionate, forgiving, God of love. Jesus came to empower the individual, saying we could any reach the level of awareness and knowing that he himself attained. But Paul and the Christian faith he founded and promoted set aside Jesus' teachings and replaced them with the Messianic message--that Jesus was the personal savior for each of us, and instead of personal empowerment, we became subservient to Jesus will and judgement for salvation. Paul hijacked Jesus' work and made it something totally different. Jesus' teachings conflicted with the Old Testament. He tried to change it and was killed as a result. Living according to the Bible makes no sense, for the conflict between the Old and New Testaments, coupled with the added conflict between the teachings of Jesus and Paul leaves us floundering. How can anyone live up to the conflicting words of God found in the Bible?

 

[zaangalewa]

Not all of the Bible is Christian. The Old Testament is Jewish, written more than 400 years before Jesus lived. The New Testament is Christian, but covers mostly the teachings of Paul rather than Jesus. The Old and New Testament are completely different books with nearly opposite views of God. The Old Testament teaches a primitive, self-absorbed, self-serving, harsh, hostile, judgemental, unforgiving God. The New Testament teaches a compassionate, forgiving, God of love. Jesus came to empower the individual, saying we could any reach the level of awareness and knowing that he himself attained. But Paul and the Christian faith he founded and promoted set aside Jesus' teachings and replaced them with the Messianic message--that Jesus was the personal savior for each of us, and instead of personal empowerment, we became subservient to Jesus will and judgement for salvation. Paul hijacked Jesus' work and made it something totally different. Jesus' teachings conflicted with the Old Testament. He tried to change it and was killed as a result. Living according to the Bible makes no sense, for the conflict between the Old and New Testaments, coupled with the added conflict between the teachings of Jesus and Paul leaves us floundering. How can anyone live up to the conflicting words of God found in the Bible?

What's your own religion? I can see only a summary of prejudices about Jews and Christians in your text here.

 

[XploreR]

Not all of the Bible is Christian. The Old Testament is Jewish, written more than 400 years before Jesus lived. The New Testament is Christian, but covers mostly the teachings of Paul rather than Jesus. The Old and New Testament are completely different books with nearly opposite views of God. The Old Testament teaches a primitive, self-absorbed, self-serving, harsh, hostile, judgemental, unforgiving God. The New Testament teaches a compassionate, forgiving, God of love. Jesus came to empower the individual, saying we could any reach the level of awareness and knowing that he himself attained. But Paul and the Christian faith he founded and promoted set aside Jesus' teachings and replaced them with the Messianic message--that Jesus was the personal savior for each of us, and instead of personal empowerment, we became subservient to Jesus will and judgement for salvation. Paul hijacked Jesus' work and made it something totally different. Jesus' teachings conflicted with the Old Testament. He tried to change it and was killed as a result. Living according to the Bible makes no sense, for the conflict between the Old and New Testaments, coupled with the added conflict between the teachings of Jesus and Paul leaves us floundering. How can anyone live up to the conflicting words of God found in the Bible?

What's your own religion? I can see only a summary of prejudices about Jews and Christians in your text here.

Hi Zaangalewa. Thank you for your post and questions. Actually, I was shocked by your assertion that I was expressing personal prejudices toward Jews and Christians. I've read my post twice and am frankly confused by your conclusions. Anyway, I don't harbor any conscious prejudices toward Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, or any other religious group or belief. I find them all interesting. Certainly, I personally feel more comfortable with some over others, but I have no agenda nor desire to denigrate those I feel less comfortable with. My post is an attempt to respond to the topical question, and show that the Bible is not what most religious people believe to be, either historically or interpretively. Views of God and Man's relationship with Him expressed in the Old and New Testament are genuinely opposite to each other. Traditional Christianity as it is practiced today around the world is founded on the views of Paul, who never met Jesus during his short life, and never had the opportunity to know Jesus or learn Jesus' teachings. Instead, he worked under the assumption that Jesus was the Messiah prophesied by generations of forebears, and constructed a belief system based on that assumption rather than spreading the actual words or teachings of Jesus themselves. The contrast between what Jesus taught and what Paul taught about Jesus are magnitudes apart. Jesus actual teachings are very similar--sometimes verbatim--with those of Buddha. Paul was unfamiliar with Buddha or his teachings, and didn't relate to Jesus' connection with them. Interestingly, Jesus personally picked 12 desciples to be his students and aids, and instructed them to carry on his teachings after his demise. Yet, the Christian Bible used the writings from only two and discarded the other ten (which were available to them when the Bible was assembled by the Church). In their place, the Church used the writings of Paul, who never knew Jesus personally and who spent many years of his life before conversion hunting down and persecuting Christians. I have no prejudice against Christianity, but I do value the actual teachings of Jesus over those of Paul, and except for a remarkably sparse number of direct quotes by Jesus mentioned in the New Testament, traditional Christianity offers very little to work with. My post is simply an attempt to shine a light on a widespread misunderstanding and misinformation about the Bible. I hope this helps.

 

[zaangalewa]

Not all of the Bible is Christian. The Old Testament is Jewish, written more than 400 years before Jesus lived. The New Testament is Christian, but covers mostly the teachings of Paul rather than Jesus. The Old and New Testament are completely different books with nearly opposite views of God. The Old Testament teaches a primitive, self-absorbed, self-serving, harsh, hostile, judgemental, unforgiving God. The New Testament teaches a compassionate, forgiving, God of love. Jesus came to empower the individual, saying we could any reach the level of awareness and knowing that he himself attained. But Paul and the Christian faith he founded and promoted set aside Jesus' teachings and replaced them with the Messianic message--that Jesus was the personal savior for each of us, and instead of personal empowerment, we became subservient to Jesus will and judgement for salvation. Paul hijacked Jesus' work and made it something totally different. Jesus' teachings conflicted with the Old Testament. He tried to change it and was killed as a result. Living according to the Bible makes no sense, for the conflict between the Old and New Testaments, coupled with the added conflict between the teachings of Jesus and Paul leaves us floundering. How can anyone live up to the conflicting words of God found in the Bible?

What's your own religion? I can see only a summary of prejudices about Jews and Christians in your text here.

Hi Zaangalewa. Thank you for your post and questions. Actually, I was shocked by your assertion that I was expressing personal prejudices toward Jews and Christians.

Not personal - ideological.

I've read my post twice and am frankly confused by your conclusions.

Take your attacks against Paul for example and compare this attacks with the 1. Corinthian Chapter 13. Read it and afterwards try to tell the people again Paulus did not understand Jesus very well. Same with your crazy view as if a war between Old Testament and New Testament would exist. The New Testament is maybe a greek extension. The theme is not isolation - the theme is universalisation of the jewish religion. Jesus was a Jew. When Jesus died he prayed "Eli, Eli, lama asabtani" ... that's Psalm 22. Nothing demonstrates in a better way the unity of Christians and Jews. Who is an antisemite is not able to be a Christian. And it's not far from the denying of the Old Testament to antisemitism, how the Nazis demonstrated very clear when they tried to undermine the christian religion by founding the so called "German Christians" ("Deutsche Christen").

Anyway, I don't harbor any conscious prejudices toward Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, or any other religious group or belief. I find them all interesting.

In guess "any other group or belief" contains also Satanists or Scientology. I personally accept nothing what has to do with Wewelsburger constructs of the Nazis or with Satanism or with Scientology or other criminal mindmanipulating organisaions - although they are indeed interesting. In general: Religions are not good because they are religions or bad because they are religions.

Certainly, I personally feel more comfortable with some over others, but I have no agenda nor desire to denigrate those I feel less comfortable with. My post is an attempt to respond to the topical question, and show that the Bible is not what most religious people believe to be,

You don't have any idea what you are speaking about in context with the bible. So why should others not have the same right to read the bible and not to understand what they read?

either historically or interpretively. Views of God and Man's relationship with Him expressed in the Old and New Testament are genuinely opposite to each other.

Yes and No. Depends maybe wether someone reads the words or the spirit. In general l see it as a very good sign if two persons who speak with each other about god and his peoples have three opinions about - but not none or endless many (=none).

Traditional Christianity as it is practiced today around the world is founded on the views of Paul, who never met Jesus during his short life,

Hmmm .. hmm ... let me say it this way: I would not be absolutelly sure that I did not meet Jesus in my life I'm more convinced we made a lot of jokes when we spoke with each other. Someone needs humor who likes to speak with god - and that's a dilemma because I'm a German and Germans don't have anything what someone could call humor. But okay - Paulus was not only a Jew but also a Roman what's maybe confusing some people. Paulus was for sure an important motor and motivator. And maybe the Christian religion would indeed not exist today without him. To call Paulus a "great man" could be an understatement.

and never had the opportunity to know Jesus or learn Jesus' teachings.

I don't think anyone is wrong, if he says something about Christ who did not meet Jesus personally during his lifetime, when he was a human being like everyone of us. The knowledge of Paulus about Jesus was excellent.

Instead, he worked under the assumption that Jesus was the Messiah prophesied by generations of forebears, and constructed a belief system based on that assumption rather than spreading the actual words or teachings of Jesus themselves. The contrast between what Jesus taught and what Paul taught about Jesus are magnitudes apart.

No - that's a clear prejudice. Paulus had a lot of work to do and he was not always patient - but who finds him in the bible with his heart loves the little boy and gentle man Paul.

Jesus actual teachings are very similar--sometimes verbatim--with those of Buddha. Paul was unfamiliar with Buddha or his teachings,

I was always asking myselve who gave Buddha the allowness to teach. Who moved his foot bowl against the stream? But maybe Buddha would answer: "That's not my teaching ... My teaching is: there is suffer ... "

and didn't relate to Jesus' connection with them.

Your belief is Jesus was a Buddha?

Interestingly, Jesus personally picked 12 desciples to be his students and aids, and instructed them to carry on his teachings after his demise. Yet, the Christian Bible used the writings from only two and discarded the other ten (which were available to them when the Bible was assembled by the Church). In their place, the Church used the writings of Paul, who never knew Jesus personally and who spent many years of his life before conversion hunting down and persecuting Christians.

We are crazy, aren't we? Our persecuters are our teachers and we love them.

I have no prejudice against Christianity,

Not? Although Paul is part of our we-identity and we read textes from the Old Testament we are not as bad as we could be?

but I do value the actual teachings of Jesus over those of Paul, and except for a remarkably sparse number of direct quotes by Jesus mentioned in the New Testament, traditional Christianity offers very little to work with. My post is simply an attempt to shine a light on a widespread misunderstanding and misinformation about the Bible. I hope this helps.

I fear you are a little misinformed about our misinformations but wether you misunderstand our misundertandings I'm not able to say. Perhaps the answer is a pretty big worm on the other side of the road where the chicken is.