I'm tired of anemic guitar amps!

LoL.

My typos are driving me ******* nuts.

I was trying to say "damn you, you have me shopping for shit I don't have any business shopping for"

It doesnt cost much to look though, so it's all good.
One interesting thing about this old AIMS iron, the OT has only one output, it's 6 ohms. The old ads say you can plug one or two speakers into it, presumably 8 or 4 ohms.

The trannies are strange, they have no codes. They have AIMS part numbers, and the PT has this additional mark which I'll take a picture of:

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This could maybe be a date code, not sure

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These marks are all on the PT, which has this AIMS part number

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The OT has this other part number, and no additional markings

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So it turns out, on the cathode follower, if you increase the load resistor of the gain stage to 220k, then the plate voltage goes down to about 150. And your follower is a lot happier because that's about the same as your cathode voltage.

An observation is that most of these circuits were designed to run at 300 volts. LOW voltage. Over the years you'll see a gradual increase in preamp voltage in both Fender and Marshall amps, and it's not necessarily a good thing.

Where you need the voltage is in the PI, so you can get enough drive for your output tubes. The preamp doesn't need high voltages, you can still get a clean 50 volt signal from a 300v supply.
 
So, the perfect 12at7 phase inverter will have a 450 volt supply. The load resistors will be 47k and 51k. The rest of the circuit will be exactly like a Bassman.

Except - here's the trick - we want to stay within 90 volts at the cathode. So use two 820 ohm resistors in parallel, instead of a 470. And DON'T use a 22k tail, use the 10k/5k combination from the Bassman. A 15k tail will give you exactly 90 volts at the cathode. If you use a 22k your cathode voltage goes to 136.

Throw away that stupid 820 ohm feedback resistor that Fender uses. Try 47k-100k off the 8 ohm speaker tap. You can use a pot to dial in the best combination of sound and presence pot behavior.

This PI as presented will easily drive a pair of KT-88's to full power
 
You can in fact run the phase inverter at 600 volts. You want to put no more than 90 volts on the cathode. 510 volts with a load of 47k and 6 mA of plate current will put the 12at7 grid voltage at -3, and the cathode resistor at 500 ohms. Call it 250 for two sections, and 12 mA total draw, so a 90 volt drop requires a tail resistor of 7500 ohms. We will split this in a 2:1 ratio just like the Bassman, we can use 4.7k and 2.7k. So in this case the presence control would be across the 2.7k resistor, and the NFB resistor is scaled accordingly, probably be in the 27k-47k range.

The advantage of doing this is your plate voltage ends up around 225 and you have at least 150 volts of useful clean swing in either direction. This way your PI will stay clean "all the way up", and it will provide plenty of drive for the KT-88's. (Plus it saves you a filter cap lol).
 
Oh, I forgot to mention, on the 600v plan you need to change the load resistors on the PI to 47k and 60k to maintain proper balance, because of the decreased tail resistor.
 
Here's the practice amp with the iron mounted.

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There still a tube and an extra can that need to go in, on the left side, you can see the markings. The bias pot is going to be located behind the choke, out of harm's way.

The two cans on the right are 350 uF at 350 volts each, they're in series to handle the 600 vdc. They're on all the time. After the standby switch is the OT and the choke. OT handles 312 mA at full power. Choke current will vary between 30 and 60 mA depending on the screen current.
 
You can in fact run the phase inverter at 600 volts. You want to put no more than 90 volts on the cathode. 510 volts with a load of 47k and 6 mA of plate current will put the 12at7 grid voltage at -3, and the cathode resistor at 500 ohms. Call it 250 for two sections, and 12 mA total draw, so a 90 volt drop requires a tail resistor of 7500 ohms. We will split this in a 2:1 ratio just like the Bassman, we can use 4.7k and 2.7k. So in this case the presence control would be across the 2.7k resistor, and the NFB resistor is scaled accordingly, probably be in the 27k-47k range.

The advantage of doing this is your plate voltage ends up around 225 and you have at least 150 volts of useful clean swing in either direction. This way your PI will stay clean "all the way up", and it will provide plenty of drive for the KT-88's. (Plus it saves you a filter cap lol).
I have to admit, I'm lost and can't keep up. Don't stop updating though. Most of it makes sense and is good reading, regardless.
 
I have to admit, I'm lost and can't keep up. Don't stop updating though. Most of it makes sense and is good reading, regardless.
I'm too scared to put 600 volts on the PI. I'll stick with 450.

The tail resistor on the PI is supposed to act like a constant current source. It can only do that if it's big enough in relation to the load. The problem is that the tubes have a maximum cathode voltage. The higher the resistor value the higher the cathode voltage. So you have to find the maximum value that still comes in under the rating.

Sometimes that's not possible. If you put 600 volts on the PI it'll work okay "in normal operation", but when you push it into overdrive it'll try to deliver too much signal and it'll exceed the tube's rated dissipation. For a 12at7 you have 90v max on the cathode and 2.5 watts max dissipation. If your output swings more than 100v you'll exceed dissipation because the currents are too high. 450 volts will give you the 100v swing at a plate current (per plate) of only 3 mA. For two tube sections that's 6 mA total, so if your tail resistor is 15k you'll drop 90 volts across it, which is within spec for cathode voltage.
 
Okay, gonna be brave and turn this thing on without a fuse. Just to check supply voltages. (If I don't get any the fuse can't be the problem lol).

Expecting 600 vdc at B+, and -140 for bias. Marshall knobs are on the way, make this amp look real pretty. :)
 
And now for a public service message from our electrical safety inspectors:

 
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I'm alive! And happy to report a robust 560 volts on B+ and a healthy -166 on bias. However my power switch is bad, those Marshall rockers can't take the heat from soldering, they melt... the standby switch survived but the on-off switch went belly up - which is okay because I forgot to get the lighted one last time. :p

So far so good, next step is to turn on the standby switch and see if we have juice on the other side of the choke. And, build out the bias circuit. Then pop the big tubes in there and see if they behave. The fuses should arrive Monday, and the switch on Tuesday.

Meanwhile all the tube sockets are wired and ready for terminal strips.

This is going to be an oddball amp. Looks like a Marshall, but it ain't. The trick on this amp is cutting DOWN the gain in the right places.

The first thing that happens in this amp, before even the gain control, is your guitar signal goes to 8v. Which coincidentally, is exactly the voltage the PI needs to drive the output tubes to full power. Those first two stages are perfectly clean, no grit whatsoever. If you connect the 8v clean directly to the power amp you get a loud clean amp. Which you can then put pedals in front of and etc

And, this amp will replicate the gain structure of the mother amp, except I'm going to move the 3rd (clean) gain stage to the back, behind the cathode follower. In this location it will be in Fender's "reverb recovery" position, but more importantly it adds another different type of crunch to the cold clipper and the cathode follower. Bogner uses this trick, so does Mesa and some others.

What I'm after with this amp is a seamless transition from clean to extreme gain. In other words "all you have to do is turn up the gain control". This is why precision gain is important in this amp. The fun starts at 50%, when the cold clipper kicks in (at 4v, which is half of 8v), and that'll be "by itself" until the cathode follower starts overdriving at about 65%, and the last gain stage only crunches around 90%.

The signal level has to go DOWN at each stage to make this work. No more than 8-10 volts of signal is useful at the input of the power amp, unless we want to abuse the output tubes. The last gain stage (the one in the reverb position) could in theory boost the signal by as much as 80x, but in this amp we're going to cut that way down with judicious resistors at the input and output. And we'll cut the outputs of the cold clipper and the cathode follower the same way. (My version of the cathode follower is insanely gainy, if I drive it with 8v there's so much grit it starts blocking).

Since there's no room for 24 knobs like in the mother amp, all the essential functions have to be compressed into six pull-knobs, and only the most essential functions can be represented. The tone stack takes up four of those knobs, and the master volume is essential which leaves only enough room for a single gain control. So these gain ratios have to be "hard coded", so to speak. The preamp gain control can only determine how much of the 8v signal gets applied to the subsequent gain stages. When the cold clipper (for example) is "in" we can do 100%, and in that case the first 50% of the range of the gain knob will be clean, and the second 50% will be clipped. However the cold clipper does have some gain, so when it gets an 8v input we have to limit its output to the approximately 8v range. Same story for the cathode follower, so we can standardize on an 8v signal level through the gain stages, but then this has to drop again, in advance of the "reverb recovery" stage.

The tone shaping then becomes pretty easy, you no longer have to worry about signal level because you "want" some reduction, so you just put the tone circuitry in all the same places the level circuitry is. This way tone shaping can be done "per stage" and the result is lots of versatility and flexibility.

Compared to a JCM-800, you get all this for the price of one extra tube and one extra can capacitor. (And some terminal strips).
 
The baby amp is at the DC-happy stage.

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Still missing the power switch and the fuses. I jumper across the fuses to get the amp to work lol :p

Here it is with the big tubes in place.

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