If you still believe in deadly climate change, this will help you sleep.

[catatomic]

So you are the average American with the average American carbon footprint.

No. Don't most Americans live in housing?

 

[ding]

What are you talking about?

This...

 

[ding]

No. Don't most Americans live in housing?

Yes, do you live in a tent?

 

[ReinyDays]

It's pretty low. I'm sure.

... but you're not smart enough to look on your bill to find out? ...

VERY lame for someone with a Master Degree in Differential Equations ... seems like you wouldn't know what to do with a ∂t even if it bit you in the ass ...

 

[catatomic]

... but you're not smart enough to look on your bill to find out? ...

VERY lame for someone with a Master Degree in Differential Equations ... seems like you wouldn't know what to do with a ∂t even if it bit you in the ass ...

It's hard to look at my bill because I am in subsidized housing.

 

[catatomic]

Yes, do you live in a tent?

I live in a small apartment.

 

[catatomic]

This...

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There's not a lot of uncertainty about today's models.

 

[Woodznutz]

The level of the ocean has risen perhaps a few millimeters in the last 100 years at best. Florida is sinking because it is made of sand.

Tracking 30 Years of Sea Level Rise

Global mean sea level has risen 101 millimeters (3.98 inches) since 1992, and it continues to do so at 3.9 mm (0.15 inches) per year.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Tracking 30 Years of Sea Level Rise

Global mean sea level has risen 101 millimeters (3.98 inches) since 1992, and it continues to do so at 3.9 mm (0.15 inches) per year.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

That is measured by satellites who would have to know their exact altitude over the ocean in a constantly decaying orbit. A whole lot of math would have to go into these calculations and is extremely prone to error.

 

[daveman]

Why?

1. Write the conclusion you want.
2. Cherry-pick, distort, and invent data that support your conclusion.
3. Shout that the science is settled.
4. Cash the grant money checks.

Because it's not science, that's why.

 

[daveman]

If true, lucky for us. Big oil has a lot of muscle though.

Yes, lucky us! The economies of the Western world will be destroyed because morons support everything they're told to support.

You should make that a plank of your platform. "You have too much money! You don't need a house! Have you ever considered living in a yurt?"

 

[daveman]

What are you talking about?

Science. Obviously you don't recognize it.

 

[ReinyDays]

It's hard to look at my bill because I am in subsidized housing.

Too stupid to go out and look on your meter? ... the electric company posts their rates on the internet ...

Hypocrite ... burning coal to tell us the evils of burning coal ... [sniff] ... my hydro-electricity makes bouillabaisse ... never claimed otherwise ...

 

[ReinyDays]

That is measured by satellites who would have to know their exact altitude over the ocean in a constantly decaying orbit. A whole lot of math would have to go into these calculations and is extremely prone to error.

Here's a scientific paper with an extended error management discussion ... some things they do correct for, and these corrections are described ... other they don't ...

The main (uncorrected) error is too little data ... 25 years is just weather, not climate ... the other big one is altimeter decay, scientific instruments have to be calibrated on a regular basis, like every year, but this is near impossible in Low Earth Orbit ...

The math says less than 2 feet rise by Year 2100 ... which is nothing ... doesn't effect Miami International Airport ... one man with one shovel can protect the entirety of Houston, Texas ... easy ... like "minimum wage" easy ...

 

[catatomic]

1. Write the conclusion you want.
2. Cherry-pick, distort, and invent data that support your conclusion.
3. Shout that the science is settled.
4. Cash the grant money checks.

Because it's not science, that's why.

I've read hundreds of papers. That just isn't so.

 

[catatomic]

Yes, lucky us! The economies of the Western world will be destroyed because morons support everything they're told to support.

You should make that a plank of your platform. "You have too much money! You don't need a house! Have you ever considered living in a yurt?"

It always saves money to consume less

 

[catatomic]

Science. Obviously you don't recognize it.

Why you got to treat me like I'm stupid?

 

[catatomic]

Too stupid to go out and look on your meter? ... the electric company posts their rates on the internet ...

Hypocrite ... burning coal to tell us the evils of burning coal ... [sniff] ... my hydro-electricity makes bouillabaisse ... never claimed otherwise ...

I'm sure my footprint is low.

 

[catatomic]

Here's a scientific paper with an extended error management discussion ... some things they do correct for, and these corrections are described ... other they don't ...

The main (uncorrected) error is too little data ... 25 years is just weather, not climate ... the other big one is altimeter decay, scientific instruments have to be calibrated on a regular basis, like every year, but this is near impossible in Low Earth Orbit ...

The math says less than 2 feet rise by Year 2100 ... which is nothing ... doesn't effect Miami International Airport ... one man with one shovel can protect the entirety of Houston, Texas ... easy ... like "minimum wage" easy ...

The models are plugged in from 1880 and it is a problem.

 

[ding]

There's not a lot of uncertainty about today's models.

Here's a paper that says slightly different initial conditions in GCM's can yield wildly different outputs.
https://www.ssb.no/en/natur-og-milj...594b9225f9d7dc458b0b70a646baec3339/DP1007.pdf