If you still believe in deadly climate change, this will help you sleep.

[catatomic]

Your post lacks something you didn't notice was missing.....




Playstation modeling scenarios, how unconvincing this crap is, CH4 and other extremely rare gases combined does not reach the very small CO2 warm forcing effect, thus your post was poor and silly.

Stop being a suck up for the Government run pseudoscience organization!

The models are correct across the 150 years.

 

[catatomic]

It's going up just like every other interglacial period before it has. The temperature today is 2C cooler than the previous interglacial with 120 ppm more atmospheric CO2. How do you explain that?

You'd have to show me so I could understand. I've seen the graph where it's going up way faster.

 

[catatomic]

Yeah, to hell with personal freedom. You'll have less and like it!

It's my decision to buy what I want. I don't need government making those decisions for me. Government making those decisions has historically killed millions of people.

And no, it won't work when you're in charge.

I will have much more personal freedom for citizens when I'm elected.

 

[ding]

You'd have to show me so I could understand. I've seen the graph where it's going up way faster.

2C warmer with 120 ppm less CO2. How do you explain that?

 

[ding]

The models are correct across the 150 years.

You can't calibrate models using the data it's supposed to predict. That's not how modeling is supposed to work.

"...GCMs are not sufficiently reliable to distinguish between natural and man-made causes of the temperature increase in the 20th century. Some of the predictions from GCMs are accompanied by standard errors, as in statistical analysis. But since the GCMs are deterministic models one cannot interpret these standard errors in the same way as in statistics. GCMs are typically evaluated applying the same observations used to calibrate the model parameters. In an article in Science, Voosen (2016) writes; “Indeed, whether climate scientists like to admit it or not, nearly every model has been calibrated precisely to the 20th century climate records – otherwise it would have ended up in the trash”. Unfortunately,models that match 20th century data as a result of calibration using the same 20th century data are of dubious quality for determining the causes of the 20th century temperature variability. The problem is that some of the variables representing sources of climate variability other than greenhouse gases are not properly controlled for during the calibrations. The resulting calibration of the climate sensitivity may therefore be biased. Further critical evaluations are given by several authors, such as Essex (2022)..."

 

[Sunsettommy]

The models are correct across the 150 years.

No, you are lying just like everyone else which is why you have no remaining credibility while there are no increasing problems out there:

No increase in Tornadoes, Hurricanes, no increase in major storms

No increase in Wildfires

No HOT SPOT after 35 years

No Positive Feedback Loop

No Sea Level acceleration

No Climate Emergency exist

There is plenty more to show that warmist/alarmists are pushing a barrage of lies everyday while there is nothing horrible going on.

 

[Sunsettommy]

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2C warmer with 120 ppm less CO2. How do you explain that?

He can't any more than he can explain this chart which are based on the GISP data:

All those large temperature swings which are totally disconnected to CO2 changes which are minimal.

LINK

 

[Sunsettommy]

The models are correct across the 150 years.

By the way you didn't address this at all, how come you ignored it which actually destroys their relevance as CO2 itself is negligible at the 435 ppm level.

Playstation modeling scenarios, how unconvincing this crap is, CH4 and other extremely rare gases combined does not reach the very small CO2 warm forcing effect, thus your post was poor and silly.

 

[daveman]

I took an MIT classs where I read how all the models worked.

You were told what to believe. And you very obediently believe it.

 

[daveman]

I will have much more personal freedom for citizens when I'm elected.

You know that's never going to happen, right?

 

[catatomic]

View attachment 1100183

2C warmer with 120 ppm less CO2. How do you explain that?

Again, the graph I saw was different.

 

[catatomic]

You can't calibrate models using the data it's supposed to predict. That's not how modeling is supposed to work.

"...GCMs are not sufficiently reliable to distinguish between natural and man-made causes of the temperature increase in the 20th century. Some of the predictions from GCMs are accompanied by standard errors, as in statistical analysis. But since the GCMs are deterministic models one cannot interpret these standard errors in the same way as in statistics. GCMs are typically evaluated applying the same observations used to calibrate the model parameters. In an article in Science, Voosen (2016) writes; “Indeed, whether climate scientists like to admit it or not, nearly every model has been calibrated precisely to the 20th century climate records – otherwise it would have ended up in the trash”. Unfortunately,models that match 20th century data as a result of calibration using the same 20th century data are of dubious quality for determining the causes of the 20th century temperature variability. The problem is that some of the variables representing sources of climate variability other than greenhouse gases are not properly controlled for during the calibrations. The resulting calibration of the climate sensitivity may therefore be biased. Further critical evaluations are given by several authors, such as Essex (2022)..."

Sure... get a function accross 150 years without fudging variables. Get the whole scientific community to accept it.

 

[catatomic]

No, you are lying just like everyone else which is why you have no remaining credibility while there are no increasing problems out there:

No increase in Tornadoes, Hurricanes, no increase in major storms

No increase in Wildfires

No HOT SPOT after 35 years

No Positive Feedback Loop

No Sea Level acceleration

No Climate Emergency exist

There is plenty more to show that warmist/alarmists are pushing a barrage of lies everyday while there is nothing horrible going on.

What does that have to do with it?

 

[catatomic]

By the way you didn't address this at all, how come you ignored it which actually destroys their relevance as CO2 itself is negligible at the 435 ppm level.

I don't believe I ignored it.

 

[catatomic]

You were told what to believe. And you very obediently believe it.

That's not how the best science courses work.

 

[catatomic]

You know that's never going to happen, right?

In a world where I feel so small I can't stop dreaming big.

 

[Sunsettommy]

What does that have to do with it?

Because the data shows the models are crap.

The models says there should be a "Hot Spot" where is it fella, under your bed.... perhaps...

The Models says there should be a Positive Feedback Loop, which has never existed in history of the world, is it hiding in your closet...... scaring away the moths...

You are still batting Zero.

 

[Sunsettommy]

I don't believe I ignored it.

You never replied because you can't address it so you DID ignore it.

Lying isn't going to help you here.

 

[Sunsettommy]

You were told what to believe. And you very obediently believe it.

He fails to realize they have no demonstrated forecast skill thus entirely worthless.

 

[catatomic]

I will not keep debating when you ignore me. This could be good-bye.