If you still believe in deadly climate change, this will help you sleep.

[mamooth]

Can you fight the very high dense cloud cover? Can you explain why in the Tropics it is routinely hot yet at both poles it is routinely extremely cold? Dr. Richard Lindzen explains it.

It was explained to me in the third grade. Angle of sunlight.

Your schooling must have been lacking.

 

[mamooth]

Doesn't the ice core data show rising temperatures lead rising CO2?

Well, no.

CO2 both lags and leads temp. It's a forcing and a feedback.

I've tried to dumb it down for you before, many times, and it never works. Deniers just don't seem to possess the brainpower to understand the basics.

 

[mamooth]

Huh.

The current Trump cult conspiracy theory is that Russia and China are just aching to control the seal lanes around Greenland, and get at the mineral wealth.

But ... the sea lanes will only be open if Global Warming is real, and happening quickly. The minerals can only be accessed if Global Warming is real, and happening quickly.

Dang. Sucks to be a denier. Even Trump admin says they're full of it now. All those years of crying and lying, totally wasted. No wonder they're so grumpy.

 

[catatomic]

A good campaign should not force the public to lose freedoms. We are far more important than any government.

My platform has maximum freedom. It will be much more freedom than you enjoy now.

 

[catatomic]

What you want to do reminds me of a person with a 15 year old horse training it to run a mile in record time.

CO2 half 2035 CO2 zero 2050 is entirely possible. The biggest problem is the naysayers.

 

[catatomic]

Not a way to campaign for president. I spent years where at times I was the Chairman of various committees. I once represented the entire Oakland side down to Fremont, CA as the chairman. I never used my position as a ruler. I set the agendas. But I always kept the committee informed they could add to it as they saw fit. I only asked them to contact me first and I would be happy to include what they wanted on the agenda.

I'm open to all suggestions and have changed my platform several times.

 

[catatomic]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Your genius delusion prevents you from not realizing there is NO video in the link you didn't visit, the chart is 100% based on the Ice Core data.

I've seen ice core data.

 

[catatomic]

LOL, it is highly relevant since the GISP ice core data doesn't support your claim at all, no relationship between CO2 and Temperature changes is show in the chart whatsoever.

I've seen the Ice Core data.

 

[catatomic]

You mean more taxpayer money gets wasted on donors and cronies.

It's not wasted unless you don't go the deep end.

 

[catatomic]

Can you fight the very high dense cloud cover? Can you explain why in the Tropics it is routinely hot yet at both poles it is routinely extremely cold? Dr. Richard Lindzen explains it.

I can ask my PhD in medium physics from MIT friend, but can you first explain why these two things are relevant?

 

[catatomic]

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You don't need socialism to fight climate change.

 

[daveman]

It's not wasted unless you don't go the deep end.

How much have we spent so far? How has the climate changed because of how much we've spent? And how much do we need to spend before the damage is too great to repair?

And where are you going to get that much money?

 

[daveman]

You don't need socialism to fight climate change.

As I said, everyone who's doomsaying about climate change offers world socialism as a solution.

Could it be that's the desired end state, and fear-mongering about the climate is merely a means to an end?

 

[catatomic]

How much have we spent so far? How has the climate changed because of how much we've spent? And how much do we need to spend before the damage is too great to repair?

And where are you going to get that much money?

I have to go to bed and I don't post on Sunday. Scientists have been clear about the price and Elon Musk said it is cheaper fight it than not to.

 

[jc456]

That program only helped a tiny number of citizens and to qualify it was very very difficult.

Fked up everyone

 

[daveman]

I have to go to bed and I don't post on Sunday. Scientists have been clear about the price and Elon Musk said it is cheaper fight it than not to.

I don't care what Musk has to say about it. And since you seem reluctant to provide...well, anything...I guess this non-PhD-haver will have to do your homework for you.

How Much Will It Cost to Solve Climate Change?​

Major reports are concluding that stabilizing greenhouse-gas emissions to avoid catastrophic climate change is possible and can be done at a relatively low cost. But the details of the reports make it clear that when you factor in real-world issues—such as delays in developing and implementing technology and policy—the cost of solving climate change gets much higher. Switching from fossil fuels to low-carbon sources of energy will cost $44 trillion between now and 2050, according to a report released this week by the International Energy Agency.

Last month a major report from the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said that efforts to stabilize levels of greenhouse-gas emissions would require investments of about $13 trillion through 2030. It also noted that reducing emissions would reduce the rate of economic growth (as a result of such factors as higher energy prices). But it would do so by, on average, less than a tenth of a percentage point per year between now and 2100.

Now remind me...how many of the climate doomsayers' predictions have come true? Hint: Zero.

So how much credibility do they have in predicting the cost of fighting climate change? Hint: Also zero.

You can spend every penny in the Western world if you want, and it won't do any good. China, India, Russia and other huge emitters are going to laugh at you while you starve to death.

 

[Robert W]

I'm open to all suggestions and have changed my platform several times.

Not for my sake or Sunset Tommy's sake or other experts here on climate, as to climate change you are as powerless as we are. We quit tilting at windmills over 30 years back. If you want smiles and giggles, watch now an old prediction film by Al Gore. And note how fast he got super rich. We would get rich ourselves by merely talking as you talk.

 

[jc456]

I don't care what Musk has to say about it. And since you seem reluctant to provide...well, anything...I guess this non-PhD-haver will have to do your homework for you.

How Much Will It Cost to Solve Climate Change?​

Now remind me...how many of the climate doomsayers' predictions have come true? Hint: Zero.

So how much credibility do they have in predicting the cost of fighting climate change? Hint: Also zero.

You can spend every penny in the Western world if you want, and it won't do any good. China, India, Russia and other huge emitters are going to laugh at you while you starve to death.

Nor can that clown say what the problem is

 

[mamooth]

Now remind me...how many of the climate doomsayers' predictions have come true?

Pretty much all of them.

We joy in rubbing that record of success in your faces, along with how your cult has a perfect failure record. Over the past 40 years, you've literally gotten every single thing wrong, while we've been right every time.

You kooks can't even get the direction of the change right. Most of you are still predicting massive cooling RealSoonNow. Your HolyIceAge never arrives, but that doesn't matter. Like any doomsday cultists, you have faith. Each time your icy armageddon fails to arrive, you simply push back the date a little more.

Remember, you're not talking to your fellow cult pissdrinkers here. You're talking to normal people intelligent people who know the science and the facts. That means know you're cult clowns who just repeat whatever nonsense your cult masters feed you.

 

[jc456]

Pretty much all of them.

Name one