Zone1 If you commit a crime, should you be punished?

[Muhammed]

A jury of his peers ruled otherwise

You never found any charges against Biden
hard as you looked

The Biden crime family's corruption is well documented.

Trump was illegally convicted by a corrupt court. You know that for a fact.

The New York government is the most corrupt in world history.

 

[IM2]

Sure he would easily have his rights restored ...come on. These are victimless civil accounting infractions

Stop making excuses. You guys still want to put Hillary in prison for cattle futures. Trump broke the law and the statutory penalty for it was prison.

 

[JLW]

According to Trump’s AG Pam Bondi the answer is No.

Pam Bondi fires three Jan. 6 prosecutors, sending another chill through DOJ workforce

The dismissals were the first time that prosecutors who worked on Jan. 6 cases and were past their probationary period of federal employment had been fired by the Justice Department.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[beagle9]

The best jurors NYC had to offer
Trumps attorneys helped select them

Trumps high powered defense could not convince a single juror of his innocence

You mean couldn't convince a single brainwashed manipulated left wing jury that he wasn't guilty. There I fixed it for you..

 

[AZrailwhale]

Ashli Babbitt was NOT MURDERED nor was she unarmed.

Wrong to both. Any other department would have fired Byrd and in any jurisdiction other than D.C. he would have been charged with murder. Here is an excerpt form an article published October 13th 2021: "
More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how "upset" the officer was after shooting her.

"These previously secret records show there was no good reason to shoot and kill Ashli Babbitt," stated Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents through a May 2021 FOIA lawsuit. "The Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Pelosi Congress have much to answer for the over the mishandling and cover-up of this scandalous killing of an American citizen by the U.S. Capitol Police."

Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed during the storming of the Capitol by a bullet fired by Capitol Police officer Lt. Michael Byrd. The documents from the DC Metropolitan Police department show that witnesses did not see Babbitt holding a weapon prior to her being shot, and reveal conflicting accounts of whether Byrd verbally warned Babbitt before shooting her. "
Since then Byrd has been paid tens of thousands of dollars, far in excess of any other C
More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how "upset" the officer was after shooting her.

"These previously secret records show there was no good reason to shoot and kill Ashli Babbitt," stated Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents through a May 2021 FOIA lawsuit. "The Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Pelosi Congress have much to answer for the over the mishandling and cover-up of this scandalous killing of an American citizen by the U.S. Capitol Police."

Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed during the storming of the Capitol by a bullet fired by Capitol Police officer Lt. Michael Byrd. The documents from the DC Metropolitan Police department show that witnesses did not see Babbitt holding a weapon prior to her being shot and reveal conflicting accounts of whether Byrd verbally warned Babbitt before shooting her." Byrd got tens of thousands of dollars in extra pay, far more than any other Capital Police officer, AND PROMOTED TO CAPTAIN.

 

[AZrailwhale]

You said she was armed. The man who shot her couldn't have known this. Regardless of laws, there is a moral lesson to the action. Perhaps it is in American gun culture I dont know. How many people fired a gun on this day?

At least a hundred LEOs fired guns of one sort or another in Jan 6. Only one used lethal force.

 

[AZrailwhale]

No they didn’t.

Trump was guilty of 34 felonies
Because he was going to be President the judge declined to sentence

No, at worst, Trump was guilty of ONE misdemeanor that was illegally inflated to thirty-four felonies. At best one of his accountants made a paper-work error.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Actually more Americans did not vote for Trump.

2024 was a Landslide...for 'Did Not Vote'

A new analysis by the Environmental Voter Project shows that 85.9 million eligible voters skipped the 2024 general election.

www.environmentalvoter.org

161 million people did not vote for Trump. 77 million did.

In every election more people don't vote than vote. Of those that did vote, Trump carried a clear majority. Facts just don't matter to you. It's all about perception and propaganda,

 

[rightwinger]

No, at worst, Trump was guilty of ONE misdemeanor that was illegally inflated to thirty-four felonies. At best one of his accountants made a paper-work error.

You keep trying to retry the case

A Jury of his peers unanimously declared him guilty

 

[AZrailwhale]

The best jurors NYC had to offer
Trumps attorneys helped select them

Trumps high powered defense could not convince a single juror of his innocence

No; Trump's attorneys only had so many challenges and the judge refused to allow voting history to be considered in jury selection. If the jury had been composed of equal numbers of Republican, Independant and Democratic voters, Trump would never have been convicted. A 100% Democrat jury in one of the most ideologically liberal cities in the nation convicted Trump. Bring charges In Frenso California, Juneau Alaska, Walla Walla Washington, Boise Idaho, Topeka Kansas or any number of other cities in so called red states and the charges would never have made it past a Grand Jury.

 

[AZrailwhale]

N, that's a lie and the demented old man is in the white house right now. So it's like this:

People are saying that Biden was a vegetable while others ran the country. Woodrow Wilson's health condition was concealed following a stroke that left him incapacitated. FDR's handicap was covered up. I believe Eisenhower had a heart attack while in office, and his health was kept under wraps. It is said that Reagan was in the early stages of Alzheimer’s in his last term. We didn't see all this then. Trump lied over 30,000 times in his first presidency, yet people talk about Biden. Now the fact that Trump lied so much is a problem, but the bigger problem would be that he really believes the lies he is telling are true. That is dementia. Biden struggling to answer questions is old age. Trump shutting down and dancing on stage for 30 minutes is another show of his decline, but for some reason his age wasn’t made a big issue.

Whoever was running the country during the Biden presidency took us out of COVID. Whoever was running the country passed very beneficial legislation that Republicans opposed and now give themselves credit for. Whoever was running the country organized NATO to help Ukraine defend itself. Whoever was running the country deported more people than Trump. Whoever was running the country had serious border legislation sabotaged by Trump. Whoever was running the country rebuilt the economy and left Trump with the best economy on earth. If that person had dementia, then we need more leaders with dementia. Whoever was leading the country then still needs to be leading it now.

So we were already "out of Covid" although more people died of it during Biden's administration then during Trump's. Somehow the minute Biden was elected all coverage of Covid deaths stopped. During the Trump years deaths per day was publicized constantly, after the election, nothing but silence. This is an excerpt from a Newsweek article comparing the Covid deaths under the two presidents:
"...The latest available CDC figure, dated February 8, 2023, puts the cumulative U.S. COVID death toll at 1,110,364, meaning that by this point around 700k more Americans have died in the pandemic under Biden than under Trump."

 

[AZrailwhale]

You keep trying to retry the case

A Jury of his peers unanimously declared him guilty

No, a jury of people who had an ideological bias against Trump declared him guilty. If the case had been allowed to go to appeal, it would have been overturned for numerous violations by both the prosecutor AND THE JUDGE. Expecting Trump to get a fair trial in Manhattan would be like expecting MLK to get a fair trial in Atlanta Georgia in 1968.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You forgot "made out of misdemeanors that the statute of limitations had already expired".

Wrong to both. Any other department would have fired Byrd and in any jurisdiction other than D.C. he would have been charged with murder. Here is an excerpt form an article published October 13th 2021: "
More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how "upset" the officer was after shooting her.

"These previously secret records show there was no good reason to shoot and kill Ashli Babbitt," stated Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents through a May 2021 FOIA lawsuit. "The Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Pelosi Congress have much to answer for the over the mishandling and cover-up of this scandalous killing of an American citizen by the U.S. Capitol Police."

Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed during the storming of the Capitol by a bullet fired by Capitol Police officer Lt. Michael Byrd. The documents from the DC Metropolitan Police department show that witnesses did not see Babbitt holding a weapon prior to her being shot, and reveal conflicting accounts of whether Byrd verbally warned Babbitt before shooting her. "
Since then Byrd has been paid tens of thousands of dollars, far in excess of any other C
More than 500 pages of internal documents from DC Metropolitan Police concerning the fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt in the Capitol on Jan. 6 reveal witness accounts stating she was not holding a weapon at the time of her death and how "upset" the officer was after shooting her.

"These previously secret records show there was no good reason to shoot and kill Ashli Babbitt," stated Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, which obtained the documents through a May 2021 FOIA lawsuit. "The Biden-Garland Justice Department and the Pelosi Congress have much to answer for the over the mishandling and cover-up of this scandalous killing of an American citizen by the U.S. Capitol Police."

Babbitt, an Air Force veteran, was shot and killed during the storming of the Capitol by a bullet fired by Capitol Police officer Lt. Michael Byrd. The documents from the DC Metropolitan Police department show that witnesses did not see Babbitt holding a weapon prior to her being shot and reveal conflicting accounts of whether Byrd verbally warned Babbitt before shooting her." Byrd got tens of thousands of dollars in extra pay, far more than any other Capital Police officer, AND PROMOTED TO CAPTAIN.

Proclaiming something as wrong when you have no evidence to substantiate your claim just makes you look gullible.

If Ashli was murdered, where's the case number and name of the alleged "murderer" who was convicted of "murdering" her? Take your time.

 

[Concerned American]

Proclaiming something as wrong when you have no evidence to substantiate your claim just makes you look gullible.

If Ashli was murdered, where's the case number and name of the alleged "murderer" who was convicted of "murdering" her? Take your time.

Hidden in Nazi Piglosi's secret files.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

At least a hundred LEOs fired guns of one sort or another in Jan 6. Only one used lethal force.

You know what's frightening? That you could post reams of information that you obviously cut & pasted from God only knows where, yet you still don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.

There were no law enforcement officers firing their sidearms because that could have caused 1) a stampede and/or 2) someone in the crowd to just start returning fire in whatever direction they thought the gunfire was coming from.

Babbitt's "job" when she was still serving in the military was essentially doing the same things the Capitol police do - protecting a designated facility and the people there except in her case if was military bases. She of all people should know better than to threaten members of the U.S. Congress as well as the Vice President of the United States!

You all are insane if you think that the behavior exhibited that day was not threatening as well as violent, and those idiots who tried to breach that final door to the area where our representatives had retreated and were in sheltering in place should consider themselves lucky that Ashli was the one who took one for team MAGA.

And lastly, what you all fail to understand is that Lt. Byrd as well as the rest of the officers there KNOW our representatives, at least in passing and their job is to PROTECT them, so when push comes to shove and some random chick tries to jump through the window to 1) open the door so that the rest of the mob could flood in and/or get their hands on the people the officers were protecting, then yeah their lives and safety will always take precedence over those attempting to smash their way past the last barricade between them.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Hidden in Nazi Piglosi's secret files.

Yeah we get it, you all have nothing per usual.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Proclaiming something as wrong when you have no evidence to substantiate your claim just makes you look gullible.

If Ashli was murdered, where's the case number and name of the alleged "murderer" who was convicted of "murdering" her? Take your time.

Did you bother to read the excerpt I posted, or the entire article?

 

[AZrailwhale]

You know what's frightening? That you could post reams of information that you obviously cut & pasted from God only knows where, yet you still don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.

There were no law enforcement officers firing their sidearms because that could have caused 1) a stampede and/or 2) someone in the crowd to just start returning fire in whatever direction they thought the gunfire was coming from.

Babbitt's "job" when she was still serving in the military was essentially doing the same things the Capitol police do - protecting a designated facility and the people there except in her case if was military bases. She of all people should know better than to threaten members of the U.S. Congress as well as the Vice President of the United States!

You all are insane if you think that the behavior exhibited that day was not threatening as well as violent, and those idiots who tried to breach that final door to the area where our representatives had retreated and were in sheltering in place should consider themselves lucky that Ashli was the one who took one for team MAGA.

And lastly, what you all fail to understand is that Lt. Byrd as well as the rest of the officers there KNOW our representatives, at least in passing and their job is to PROTECT them, so when push comes to shove and some random chick tries to jump through the window to 1) open the door so that the rest of the mob could flood in and/or get their hands on the people the officers were protecting, then yeah their lives and safety will always take precedence over those attempting to smash their way past the last barricade between them.

I never said SIDEARMS. I said firearms. There is plenty of video evidence of officers firing shotguns and grenade launchers into the crowd launching everything from rubber bullets to tear gas grenades.

 

[IM2]

At prima facie there was a sexual encounter with his woman who has a very widely known, archived history of sexual acts of all varieties and inputs for money. He wanted to hide it from Melania and his family primarily.

Most first time offenders to accounting crimes certainly one where there is no criminal act where there is a victim, theft or impropriety are fined and adjudication withheld.

At prima facie was trump inviting this woman to his room. He didn't have to. So there's no excuse to be made. Bill Clinton ied bout getting a blowjob t hide is from his wife nd fmily but I'm sure you ha a d different set of rules then. And certainly there is no excuse for falsifying his books.

 

[gtopa1]

Stop making excuses. You guys still want to put Hillary in prison for cattle futures. Trump broke the law and the statutory penalty for it was prison.

How so? He didn't even get a penalty!!! I'll say more when the appeal is over.

Greg