Zone1 If you commit a crime, should you be punished?

[IM2]

TRUMP faced justice by the American people who awarded him a judgement of 4 more years in the White House.

Actually more Americans did not vote for Trump.

2024 was a Landslide...for 'Did Not Vote'

A new analysis by the Environmental Voter Project shows that 85.9 million eligible voters skipped the 2024 general election.

www.environmentalvoter.org

161 million people did not vote for Trump. 77 million did.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I can't believe how difficult I'm finding it to answer your question.

In respect to those who entered the U.S. unlawfully, or intentionally overstayed their visas, what punishment would you like to see them face? Because there is going to be pushback if you want more than just to "punish" them, you want to inflict trauma and unnecessary suffering on them as well.

Then there is the situation of Trump who has been convicted of 34 felonies but escaped punishment when he was elected POTUS in 2024. Do you think he should be punished? What about the J6ers he pardoned who were convicted, do you think they should have been punished and/or not pardoned?

Immediate deportation.

 

[IM2]

Immediate deportation.

Deport Trump.

 

[Captain Caveman]

As a nation, we were willing to accept a convicted felon as President

We can accept workers without the proper paperwork

As a nation, America accepts folk like you to wander freely. Personally, you should be deported for a few years, it might wake you up.

 

[IM2]

As a nation, America accepts idiots like you to wander freely. Personally, you should be deported for a few years, it might wake you up.

You put a convicted felon in the president's office. Maybe you need to be deported to a country with a criminal authoritarian running it for a few years; it might wake you up.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Immediate deportation.

So as I understand it, the CASA v Trump case, if certified as a class action (and they prevail), will continue to allow birthright citizenship for the certified class which will in effect provide birthright citizenship to the children born in the U.S. of everyone in the country who aren't here unlawfully.

Is this what you all were hoping to achieve?

Note: Three edits made above

 

[rightwinger]

We looked the other way for Trump felonies

We can look the other way for illegal migrant workers

 

[Zincwarrior]

We are a nation of laws.

Nit for the wealthy. They make the laws.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You put a convicted felon in the president's office. Maybe you need to be deported to a country with a criminal authoritarian running it for a few years; it might wake you up.

I'm in the UK, please explain how I managed that.

 

[IM2]

I'm in the UK, please explain how I managed that.

So you're another loudmouth foreigner supporting something here that's not done in your country.
Mod Edited. White 6

 

[rightwinger]

Nit for the wealthy. They make the laws.

Golden Rule

He who has the Gold, makes the rules

 

[Captain Caveman]

So you're another loudmouth foreigner supporting something here that's not done in your country.
Mod Edited. White 6

So you're another loudmouth racist supporting illegals. The UK fines employers for employing illegals.

 

[Rawley]

I can't believe how difficult I'm finding it to answer your question.

In respect to those who entered the U.S. unlawfully, or intentionally overstayed their visas, what punishment would you like to see them face?

Deportation. By that is not actually a "punishment"

Because there is going to be pushback if you want more than just to "punish" them, you want to inflict trauma and unnecessary suffering on them as well.

How is sending them home inflicting "trauma and unnecessary suffering?"

Then there is the situation of Trump who has been convicted of 34 felonies but escaped punishment when he was elected POTUS in 2024. Do you think he should be punished? What about the J6ers he pardoned who were convicted, do you think they should have been punished and/or not pardoned?

Seriously, why does everything always have to come back to Trump?

 

[Rawley]

The crime is trespassing

If they are found to be working hard, staying out of trouble, give them work papers and let them stay

No harm, no foul

So **** the people that did it the legal way huh? Just suckers? There is a foul, they broke the law.

 

[rightwinger]

So **** the people that did it the legal way huh? Just suckers? There is a foul, they broke the law.

No harm, no foul

 

[Rawley]

No harm, no foul

Of course there's harm. The law has been broken.

 

[rightwinger]

Of course there's harm. The law has been broken.

Trespassing
no harm, no foul

Someone picking crops is not harming anyone

 

[Rawley]

Trespassing
no harm, no foul

So why is there a law against trespassing?

Someone picking crops is not harming anyone

Sure there is. She's taking a job away from someone legally here.

 

[rightwinger]

So why is there a law against trespassing?

Sure there is. She's taking a job away from someone legally here.

unemployment is below 4 percent, nobody wants those jobs

No harm, no foul

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No they didn’t.

Trump was guilty of 34 felonies
Because he was going to be President the judge declined to sentence

You forgot "made out of misdemeanors that the statute of limitations had already expired".