Zone1 If you commit a crime, should you be punished?

[the watcher]

That's bullshit. The prohibition of carrying a weapon only extends to the carrying inside a federal facility, as well as on the Capitol grounds.

If you want to carry it's best you not only understand the laws of your state, the rules of engagement, but the laws of the state where you mat travel to, and they change with the wind. Mexico has the toughest firearm laws of any country and that's really keeping them safe. District of Columbia State Gun Laws and Regulations Explained | NRA-ILA

 

[Hellokitty]

If you commit a crime, should you be punished?​

Trump wasn’t

TRUMP faced justice by the American people who awarded him a judgement of 4 more years in the White House.

 

[rightwinger]

TRUMP faced justice by the American people who awarded him a judgement of 4 more years in the White House.

That is not how our Justice system is supposed to work

Used to be, a President was not above he law

 

[rightwinger]

Because the same court that convicted him unconditionally discharged at 34 counts.

No they didn’t.

Trump was guilty of 34 felonies
Because he was going to be President the judge declined to sentence

 

[OODA_Loop]

No they didn’t.

Trump was guilty of 34 felonies
Because he was going to be President the judge declined to sentence

Sure they did. The judge made the sentencing decision to unconditionally discharge with no consequence.

 

[rightwinger]

Sure they did. The judge made the sentencing decision to unconditionally discharge with no consequence.

Felony conviction remained

 

[OODA_Loop]

Felony conviction remained

Of no consequence what so ever. He is President. In hindsight it was beneficial drawing voters to him.

The only thing which was more beneficial that Democrats did was try to assassinate him.

 

[rightwinger]

Of no consequence what so ever. He is President. In hindsight it was beneficial drawing voters to him.

The only thing which was more beneficial that Democrats did was try to assassinate him.

The shooter was Republican

 

[OODA_Loop]

The shooter was Republican

A Republican who wanted to kill his candidate to lock in Harris. Occam's Razor

 

[GLASNOST]

If you commit a crime, should you be punished?​

Yes, but you shlould be guilty.

my question is, when do we enact the punishment?​

Every day is the first day in the rest of our lives. Who decides what day is the day we begin to "enact punishment"?

 

[JGalt]

The shooter was Republican

So what if I registered as a Democrat in the 2028 primary election so I could vote for the least likely candidate, thinking my vote would skew the vote count?

Would that officially make me a "Democrat"?


"Rush Limbaugh may be his real name, but to millions of Democratic grassroots voters, especially on the left, the conservative icon who's been called the most influential radio broadcaster in America reigns as the political Prince of Darkness.

Even more so during a 2008 presidential race in which Limbaugh has assumed a new title, "commander," as he heads a drive dubbed "Operation Chaos," a gleeful and, he argues, increasingly successful effort to wreak havoc with the Democratic primary system and its candidates, Clinton and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

Limbaugh's effort, which began early this year, is a call to arms urging conservatives and Republican voters to re-register as Democrats - and create chaos in that party's presidential nomination process by casting a vote..."

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Limbaugh-seeks-to-sow-chaos-in-Democrats-race-3286535.php

 

[rightwinger]

So what if I registered as a Democrat in the 2028 primary election so I could vote for the least likely candidate, thinking my vote would skew the vote count?

Would that officially make me a "Democrat"?


"Rush Limbaugh may be his real name, but to millions of Democratic grassroots voters, especially on the left, the conservative icon who's been called the most influential radio broadcaster in America reigns as the political Prince of Darkness.

Even more so during a 2008 presidential race in which Limbaugh has assumed a new title, "commander," as he heads a drive dubbed "Operation Chaos," a gleeful and, he argues, increasingly successful effort to wreak havoc with the Democratic primary system and its candidates, Clinton and Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

Limbaugh's effort, which began early this year, is a call to arms urging conservatives and Republican voters to re-register as Democrats - and create chaos in that party's presidential nomination process by casting a vote..."

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Limbaugh-seeks-to-sow-chaos-in-Democrats-race-3286535.php

The shooter was Republican
So were his parents

 

[DGS49]

If I steal a car and get caught, taking the car back and giving it to its rightful owner IS NOT PUNISHMENT. That is merely an attempt to undo the wrongdoing. After the car is taken back, we can talk about punishment for the theft.

If I come to a country illegally, removing me from that country is not punishment, it is merely reversing my crime. A fine or penalty IN ADDITION TO REMOVAL would be punishment, but "we" rarely take that step.

 

[JGalt]

The shooter was Republican
So were his parents

Apparently Occam's razor is a concept you libs find hard to grasp.

But even if could be proven that he was a "Republican", that means absolutely nothing. He was not a Trump-supporter and as far as I'm concerned, many so-called "Republicans" aren't worth a bucket of spit.

 

[rightwinger]

If I steal a car and get caught, taking the car back and giving it to its rightful owner IS NOT PUNISHMENT. That is merely an attempt to undo the wrongdoing. After the car is taken back, we can talk about punishment for the theft.

If I come to a country illegally, removing me from that country is not punishment, it is merely reversing my crime. A fine or penalty IN ADDITION TO REMOVAL would be punishment, but "we" rarely take that step.

The crime is trespassing

If they are found to be working hard, staying out of trouble, give them work papers and let them stay

No harm, no foul

 

[IM2]

If we are a nation of laws we don't elect a convicted felon to be the president.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

That's bullshit. The prohibition of carrying a weapon only extends to the carrying inside a federal facility, as well as on the Capitol grounds.

No it's not bullshit, you're mistaken:
Under 18 U.S. Code § 930, it is a federal crime to:

“Knowingly possess or cause to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a federal facility…”

And specifically:

“The term ‘federal facility’ means a building or part of a building owned or leased by the federal government, where federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties.”

Capitol grounds and buildings fall under this law, enforced by the U.S. Capitol Police.

The Capitol complex includes:​

• Capitol building
• House and Senate office buildings
• Capitol grounds (lawns, steps, surrounding sidewalks, etc.)

So, the claim that “the prohibition only applies inside” is incorrect.

In fact, carrying firearms on Capitol grounds violates both:

1. Federal law
2. Capitol Police Board regulations (which treat the entire complex as protected space)

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Sure they did. The judge made the sentencing decision to unconditionally discharge with no consequence.

It wasn't a decision, they couldn't sentence a sitting president.

 

[IM2]

Of no consequence what so ever. He is President. In hindsight it was beneficial drawing voters to him.

The only thing which was more beneficial that Democrats did was try to assassinate him.

If the conviction drew voters to him, then we are not a nation of laws.

 

[rightwinger]

As a nation, we were willing to accept a convicted felon as President

We can accept workers without the proper paperwork