If you actually met Buddha

[Blues Man]

I was not aware of that but as I said I haven’t studied Buddhism all that much.

There's a lot of misconceptions.

 

[toobfreak]

I didn't know everyone he taught became Buddha, then everyone they taught and so on. Must be a few around. You'd think by now we'd all be Buddha.

You don't understand at all. You don't WANT to understand, so now you mock the subject.

The biggest flaw to theism is the atheists who try to dismiss it on a far-imperfect understanding so they don't ever take it seriously enough to discover there really are things in this universe far above man and his very limited understanding taking him out from being the center of the universe.

 

[emilynghiem]

Would you kill him?

I have met the Buddha.
And he is us.

(And yes, we are dying and
killing ourselves every day.)

 

[rupol2000]

Zen Buddhists said that this is the right thing to do

 

[rupol2000]

Not all Buddhists believe in reincarnation just like all Christians don't believe the same things

The early Christians also believed in reincarnation. Christianity and Buddhism have a lot in common, they had common roots. This was obviously the first attempt to make people believe in retribution not on earth, but in the afterlife, the first attempt to impose on them humility before power and the habit of suffering. Among other things, Buddhism had the first monasticism and the cult of the martyr.
In addition, the philosophy of emptiness in Buddhism is an analogue of ancient atomism and Christian nominalism; Marxist materialism is inherited from this doctrine.

 

[Stann]

The early Christians also believed in reincarnation. Christianity and Buddhism have a lot in common, they had common roots. This was obviously the first attempt to make people believe in retribution not on earth, but in the afterlife, the first attempt to impose on them humility before power and the habit of suffering. Among other things, Buddhism had the first monasticism and the cult of the martyr.
In addition, the philosophy of emptiness in Buddhism is an analogue of ancient atomism and Christian nominalism; Marxist materialism is inherited from this doctrine.

What if there are more clues to why Jesus, unlike most rabbis of the time, taught a philosophy of peace and love. What if when Jesus was born, Gaspar, the wisest of the three wise men

 

[Stann]

What if there are more clues to why Jesus, unlike most rabbis of the time, taught a philosophy of peace and love. What if when Jesus was born, Gaspar, the wisest of the three wise men.....

Wasn't from Persia, as is commonly thought, but from India. And what if he had the foresight to see that by the time he was 12 years old that the rabbis in his area couldn't teach him anything more. If he was able to see that, he would probably say to them these precious gifts do not squander them save them and when Jesus runs out of teachers, send him to me. This would help explain why from 12 years old to until 30 there's nothing written about Jesus because he wasn't in the holy Land he was in India, learning all he could about the Buddha and his philosophy. Just a thought for now; I doubt that the Vatican will be giving up that information anytime soon. Google Books>books We Three Kings: The Journeys of the Magi W.D.Chowder 2001 ( I " extrapolated " from where he left off. Someday maybe the whole TRUTH will finally be revealed. Have a great day and have a great life; this is what Jesus intended.

 

[rupol2000]

What if there are more clues to why Jesus, unlike most rabbis of the time, taught a philosophy of peace and love. What if when Jesus was born, Gaspar, the wisest of the three wise men

I do not know. The name "Jesus" apparently comes from the same roots as Zeus and Esus, and its semantics are similar to Krishna, the black god of Hinduism. Maybe the keys are there lol

The concept of the modern "Jesus" was adopted around the 10th century under the influence of the Church of the Franks, the first canonization occurred during the Reformation in the 16th century. This is a very modern mythology. The older Jesus in Gnosticism was very different from the modern Jesus. He spoke of the sun, and was apparently written off from Helios.

 

[rupol2000]

The Gnostics also had a trinity, moreover, there is no doubt that the Christian trinity originally arose from there, through the Neoplatonists. And Christ there apparently was also associated with the son (self-begotten), but everything else was very different. In addition to the son, there was mother Barbello (Sophia), and the Father-Holy Spirit. They completely rejected Judaism, and they associate the Judeo-Christian father Yahweh with an evil architect, an approximate analogue of modern Satan. They called him Jaldabaoth.
He was the main source of evil, and Sophia was sinful in that she gave him light in order to create souls. She repented of what she had done. They considered the created world to be the product of a monster and considered it a blessing to abandon it. Perhaps this is the origin of the ideal of celibacy in Christianity. They considered it sinful to have children for Jaldabaoth and his world. Among the early church fathers were the Gnostics.

 

[rupol2000]

The Christ of King Constantine, who established Christianity in Byzantium, was more similar to the Gnostic "Jesus", he was a luminiferous being with him, according to legend, he allegedly saw the light and called him the sun god.

 

[rupol2000]

There is a certain rather simple logic of the concept of salvation in the Gnostic myth. It turns out that salvation is a way out of the world of the evil Architect back to the light that he stole to create souls. Light there is, as it were, chained in a material body, hence the idea that the soul and the body are fundamentally different things.
The Jewdeo-Christians actually rejected this concept completely. Their Christ ascends in the flesh, and their kingdom of the righteous on earth is also material, and their rebellion of the righteous is reduced to the re-creation of bodies.

 

[rupol2000]

In the eastern branch of the Judeo Christian religion, there are quite a few icons of Sophia, which they pass off as icons of the Virgin Mary. This obviously applies to all Orants and all winged goddesses. Many Temples are called Sophia.

And some of the icons are dedicated to Anahita. Those icons dedicated to the Intercession depict a typical prayer gesture of the Zoroastrians with a belt.

 

[rupol2000]

As a rule, Sophia is depicted without a baby, in the oldest models she is with wings. If she holds the cross, then it is always the patriarchal (Hungarian).

 

[rupol2000]

Apparently, just do all the temples of the Mother of God were previously Sofia temples, stars are depicted on their domes, as in this icon.
Now this is no longer observed, but still there is a correlation.
And in general, the cult of the virgin is developed much stronger than the cult of Christ. Most of the icons are dedicated to the Mother of God; she is de facto revered more than Christ. This is partly true even for west chirch.

 

[rupol2000]

According to the Judeo-Christian scripture, she is not a goddess at all and should not be worshiped as a goddess. However, many prayers are dedicated to her precisely as a deity.
In fact, in Eastern Christianity, she is more important than Christ.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

Would you kill him?

Absolutely not. Buddha is peacefully minded.

 

[Stann]

There is a certain rather simple logic of the concept of salvation in the Gnostic myth. It turns out that salvation is a way out of the world of the evil Architect back to the light that he stole to create souls. Light there is, as it were, chained in a material body, hence the idea that the soul and the body are fundamentally different things.
The Jewdeo-Christians actually rejected this concept completely. Their Christ ascends in the flesh, and their kingdom of the righteous on earth is also material, and their rebellion of the righteous is reduced to the re-creation of bodies.

... And the truth lies somewhere in between as far as I'm concerned.

 

[emilynghiem]

The early Christians also believed in reincarnation. Christianity and Buddhism have a lot in common, they had common roots. This was obviously the first attempt to make people believe in retribution not on earth, but in the afterlife, the first attempt to impose on them humility before power and the habit of suffering. Among other things, Buddhism had the first monasticism and the cult of the martyr.
In addition, the philosophy of emptiness in Buddhism is an analogue of ancient atomism and Christian nominalism; Marxist materialism is inherited from this doctrine.

The best explanation I have heard of reincarnation was from a woman monk: she said the KARMA reincarnates, not the person! Many Buddhists technically do not believe in the Soul the same way Christians do. What the two teach in common: what Buddhists call Karma passed down from past generations,
Christians call "generations sins or curses" that are REVISITED on the sons or until the fourth or fifth generations.

These curses can attract DEMONS which many Christians claim are the cause of reports of "past life memories or regressions."

The point of Deliverance prayer is to Renounce past sins and remove demonic influences so people are reborn free of these material sins/karma.

Christians call it Salvation and Buddhists call it Enlightenment, because Christians focus on the Soul and Buddhists focus on the Mind. Both heart and mind, body and spirit are affected by this process of liberation and spiritual healing that removes the causes of ills and Breaks the Cycle of living under sin and karma from past patterns of abuse oppression and suffering that otherwise repeat.

Forgiveness in Christ breaks this cycle.

The spiritual process is universal for all individuals and collective humanity, but different cultural and religious traditions teach this using different language.

The common themes are achieving Justice and Peace for All, which Christians teach as Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

The Golden Rule of Reciprocity that is taught in all major world religions. (In Constitutionalism Equal Justice and Protection of the Laws is taught as the goal, where those who believe people are the government enforce and embody the laws directly to practice the same standards of govt we want for ourselves equally as others.)

And the parallels of the Great Commandments that correspond with the "Trinity" of God/Christ Jesus/Holy Spirit
* Buddhism teaches to develop Wisom and Compassion, which align as secular equivalents for the Two Great Commandments, that all other teachings are based on as the two key principles
* Christianity teaches to Love God with all our heart mind and soul, and to love our neighbor as ourselves, which all other laws and prophets are based upon
Then Christ added a New Commandment that we love one another as Christ Jesus loves us, with God's unconditional love and grace not man's material love that is biased and conditioned. So this love of Jesus as Equal Justice joins the love of Man and love of God as one, reconciling the individual with the collective level.

Buddhists and Bahai teach this as interconnectedness or oneness. Since selfish ego is overcome, Buddhists call this nothingness and Nirvana to become completely selfless.

By forgiving, letting go and detaching/renouncing all conditions and perceptions from the past, this is how Christians teach rebirth in the Kingdom of God or Heaven on Earth.

The mind goes through a conscious process of grieving, recovery and healing, so the Buddhists teach different terms for the steps. The Christians teach the process of receiving Jesus as Authority of Law and Justice for all humanity so this uses generalized religious symbols to represent Truth Justice and Peace collectively as baptizing all nations in the name of the Father Son and Holy Spirit.

The process is universal in affecting all humanity and bringing us together as one. The Jews and Gentiles, Christians and Buddhists are given Spiritual laws and Secular teachings to guide this process, which Jesus as Universal Justice fulfills equally for both Believers under Spiritual and Scriptural laws and authority, and nontheist secular gentiles under natural and civil laws of science and the state.

All laws are ideally fulfilled and followed in the spirit of Equal Justice and Peace or Equal Protection of the Laws which Jesus and the Holy Spirit represent at the end stages when all humanity unites and agrees to live by Good Will by receiving God's Will in Christ Jesus or Restorative Justice.

The stages of spiritual development man experiences symbolized in the Bible can be translated and explained in secular terms. The process of Peace and Justice by establishing Truth is Universal, and humans just have diverse ways of seeing and expressing it because our limited ways of communication are finite and cannot capture the entire collective process without using symbols. So that is why we have different religions all trying to represent different angles or perspectives on the same universal process that is unique to each person at the same time.

 

[rupol2000]

Christians call it Salvation and Buddhists call it Enlightenment, because Christians focus on the Soul

“Correct” Christians who follow Judeo-Christianity should not believe in it either. What is mentioned in Christianity about the soul is considered a vestige of the "polytheists". The concept of Judeo-Christianity does not imply it. There, after the advent of the Kingdom on Earth, there is an uprising of the flesh of the righteous.

 

[alexa]

'If You Meet the Buddha, Kill Him' -- What Does That Mean?

The Zen koan "If you meet the Buddha, kill him" has been interpreted to mean many wildly different things.

www.learnreligions.com

Kill the Buddha if the Buddha exists somewhere else. If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha. In other words, if you encounter a "Buddha" separate from yourself, you are deluded.

To "meet" the Buddha is to be stuck in dualism.

Well there was also a book called 'If you meet the Buddha on the road, Kill him' which was what I thought this was referring to. Basically this was about not putting others above you and allowing them to tell you the way. Listen within. It goes with a saying which was attributed to the Buddha. 'Put nothing above the deepest truth you know within yourself'.