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Yet, you and others judge the entire public school system based on news articles out of a few selected liberal dominated cities. That's typical hypocrisy on your part.I wouldn't judge the whole educational system by your own family. Very subjective.
Did you track the success or failure of your students? Most of society goes through the educational system. The society we have is largely the result of what they learned, or didn't learn, there. That's how I judge it.Yet, you and others judge the entire public school system based on news articles out of a few selected liberal dominated cities. That's typical hypocrisy on your part.
You forget I was a teacher for 21 years, teaching in my first school for 10 years, and then the last 11 years in a DoD school, and 6 different county school districts.
About the same way I operate a concrete saw at 82.How does someone in their 80s even operate a computer with any sense?
How does one track success or failure of their students, other than the grades they earned?Did you track the success or failure of your students? Most of society goes through the educational system. The society we have is largely the result of what they learned there. That's how I judge it.
Most of what is taught/learned is quickly forgotten or never used, so any success in school is fleeting. The beneficial knowledge that is put into practice in the real world is what is important.How does one track success or failure of their students, other than the grades they earned?
If he's happy with that I don't see a problem. A college degree doesn't guarantee health, wealth, or happiness. These can be achieved without it.By comparison, I have master's degree, yet my brother has worked minimum wage most of his life. We went to the same schools and often had the same teachers.
Most of what is taught/learned is quickly forgotten or never used, so any success in school is fleeting. The beneficial knowledge that is put into practice in the real world is what is important.
If he's happy with that I don't see a problem. A college degree doesn't guarantee health, wealth, or happiness. These can be achieved without it.
Of course, we need education, but most of it comes after we get out of school. Formal education is just one tool in our toolbox. Teachers can take credit for placing certain tools in our toolbox, but they can't take credit for what we do with those tools. However, they can take blame for not giving us other needed tools.I disagree with your first comment. Perhaps you were a dullard who chose not to use your education, but to each his own.
Not having a decent education is a one-way ticket to poverty for your lifetime.
Of course, we need education, but most of it comes after we get out of school. Formal education is just one tool in our toolbox. Teachers can take credit for placing certain tools in our toolbox, but they can't take credit for what we do with those tools. However, they can take blame for not giving us other needed tools.
That they will soon contribute to all the problems that are plaguing society.Such as?
How to avoid the problems that those who have gone before fell victim to. Have them consider "For want of a 'nail' a shoe was lost..."
I didn't post that yet, and edited it out (although it is very true). Reread.In other words, you have no fucking clue! Thanks for admitting that!
There is another nonsensical vague response!That they will soon contribute to all the problems that are plaguing society.
Don't confuse smart with lucky. I'm pretty smart, but I credit luck (and being a good-looking white guy) for most of my success.I have three kids, and their spouses and 4 grandchildren that are products of the public schools and they all seem to be a lot smarter than you. My daughter-in-law was actually in my class during the 10th grade.
What does luck have to do with it? I guess you never worked for anything or anyone in your life?Don't confuse smart with lucky. I'm pretty smart, but I credit luck (and being a good-looking white guy) for most of my success.
It has been my 'good fortune' to have been continuously employed for most of my life. Work is my anchor. Still chugging at 82.What does luck have to do with it? I guess you never worked for anything or anyone in your life?
Sounds like a case for designated schools for kids with special needs.First, let me state that I am both a public school teacher and a person who is libertarian. As a libertarian, I would not object to public schools being phased out completely. I am confident that, in the absences of public schools, I would earn a far larger salary than my district determined scale. Point is that the "if" in my statement is sincere.
Since the answer to whether we will have public school is an overwhelming "yes," that the Twoparties agree on, we have to take a realistic look at what a child needs in order to learn in a public school.
A hungry child will not learn.
An exhausted child will not learn.
A sick child will not learn, if his sickness makes him too uncomfortable to concentrate.
A child who cannot see the board will not learn, in the absence of special accommodations.
A child who dreads the weekend due to abusive or negligent parents will learn perhaps Mon - Thurs, but will not learn on Friday.
My fellow/sister teachers often complain and lament that "we have to parent" some kids. They are right, that is exactly what we often have to do. We parent the kids, because the parents won't. That's what the welfare state has taught them is the way to behave.
If I were to suggest that we simply allow those kids to stay home, those same teachers would sputter with outrage. Because those kids have a "right" to a public school education. Because public school is the great equalizer. But is it?
A child experiencing any of the above is not getting an equal education to a child with an identical demographic, parental education and socioeconomic background whose parents provide the care the students needs, and appropriate time and location in which to study. If we are to be the equalizers, we must find ways to close those gaps.
When I taught at an elementary school we ran "Grizzly Bear Camp," which was an after school program that let kids study and do homework in the library for 90 minutes after school, followed by play time and a snack in the gym, and a bus ride home. It was a great success. In Junior High, they have after school "tutorials," but they are more a case of "You're behind in your work, so you are assigned to after school tutorials." Not nearly as helpful to kids with inadequate parenting.
If a child has a visual impairment severe enough to be classified as a disability, the school will spare little expense in providing equipment for that child to be able to access materials. If a child needs glasses and can't see the board, but the parent is too lazy to provide them, they kid is just out of luck. Why? Any schools budget can easily absorb the cost of prescription eyeglasses.
We feed the kids free breakfast and lunch and continue that into the summer. That's good. Our counselors will provide school supplies and a backpack to kids whose parents will not buy them. Good again. But we should be providing any other needs that arise as well. Let a committee decide who has the need, since educators insist on committees. But get the kids taken care of, don't chastise them for not being ready to learn.
Illegal.Sounds like a case for designated schools for kids with special needs.
You just read about 80% of the students in the schools.Sounds like a case for designated schools for kids with special needs.
Are you okay?Have you taught your students the best way to floss? Oral health is a big problem among adolescents. How about your obese kids, have you guided them to a healthier weight? Have you had "the talk" with each student privately regarding sex?
I have dozens of such questions.
No they are NOTYou just read about 80% of the students in the schools.
Also, special schools are illegal for special needs students.
