If Trump wins the popular vote but Harris wins the rust belt the republican party will lead in abolishing

You are talking about the National Popular Vote Compact, and that will have to be tested in court if they try it.

I am not convinced the SCOTUS will accept a State assigning it's EV's based on the voters in some other States. That is a State disenfranchising their own voters.
It will be tested but if they follow the constitution it is pretty crystal clear that the states can run their elections however they want. SCOTUS is not known for caring about the constitution all that much though...
The US does not have a national election. We have 50 State elections on the same day. There is no national standard for how an election is held, and attempting to make the popular vote the method of choosing the President and Vice President would create chaos.
I don't see why it would create any chaos whatsoever. It would if demanded by the feds - they would have to unify our 50 systems and that would be a huge problem as well as making our system much more vulnerable.

Done at the state level is seamless though, nothing changes with the system whatsoever. Not a single thing. The only change is outside of the election system, who the chosen electors cast their votes for.
 
I remember when the evil dems never thought that Trump could win the popular vote....Nor did I.

What has changed to get them in such a state of angst? Could it be the bait and switch the dem party elites pulled on the "lesser dems" has not panned-out well for them?

As for the EC.....Meh, evil dems have always been in favor of the tyranny of the majority.....Nothing new under the sun there.
 
It will be tested but if they follow the constitution it is pretty crystal clear that the states can run their elections however they want. SCOTUS is not known for caring about the constitution all that much though...
Well the SCOTUS is pretty big on original intent. You admit the purpose of the Compact is to circumvent the electoral college. That is obviously contrary to the intent of the framers, who did not trust direct democracy and setup the EC to add a layer between the popular vote and the office of the President. The SCOTUS might rule that the Compact is abhorrent to the Constitution and strike it down for that reason.

Of course the Congress could pass legislation to make the Compact illegal if necessary, and it wouldn't be too tough to put pressure on dems in the Congress who come from red States.

And I seriously doubt California or the other signatories would actually follow the Compact if the popular vote didn't go their way...

In any case, this thread is about abolishing the EC. The Compact and schemes to circumvent it is a different subject...
 
I don't see why it would create any chaos whatsoever. It would if demanded by the feds - they would have to unify our 50 systems and that would be a huge problem as well as making our system much more vulnerable.
For one thing you would have endless recounts, and the rules for that vary from State to State.

If you think it takes a long time now to declare a winner, just switch to the popular vote and see how long that takes...
 
What utter tripe. Republicans understand and value the Electoral College. Only whiny liberals are asking for mob rule. If Trump wins the popular vote he will most certainly win the electoral votes needed. This is just more stupid liberal whining.
 
If Trump wins the popular vote, but Harris wins the rust belt, the republican party will lead in abolishing the electoral college before the 2028 election.

The red republican states will lead the way just as fast as they attacked trans people these past 2 years if the likelyhood stated above happens!

The popular vote should be what elects presidents anyways and is the way it is done in most presidential republics.
Harris wins the rust belt!!! Harris isn't on track to win anything. Harris may lose New York.
 
If Trump wins the popular vote, but Harris wins the rust belt, the republican party will lead in abolishing the electoral college before the 2028 election.

The red republican states will lead the way just as fast as they attacked trans people these past 2 years if the likelyhood stated above happens!

The popular vote should be what elects presidents anyways and is the way it is done in most presidential republics.
Harris isn’t gonna win the rust belt, citizens in the rust belt care about the fact that since harris got elected they are worse off, with cost skyrocket over 25 percent and they see harris is more concerned with taxing them so that prisoners can get sex change operations
 
Done at the state level is seamless though, nothing changes with the system whatsoever. Not a single thing. The only change is outside of the election system, who the chosen electors cast their votes for.
The change is which electors are chosen to cast the votes. That is most definitely within the election system. It is the very function of the election system.

The situation where one candidate wins the popular vote, and a different one wins the electoral college would require some State(s) to ignore the electors that their own voters chose, and replace them with the electors from the other party.

This is a disenfranchisement of the voters in that State.

The 14th Amendment says:

(Bolded part is mine for clarity. The 19th and 26th Amendments supersede the discrimination against women and the voting age language, but the right to vote for the choice of electors remains intact)

"Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State."
 
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We can expect to see more of this:

Republican draws criticism for call to bypass election in North Carolina​


Now that victory is imminent, they're not even trying to hide it any more.

"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme"

They started with that crap back in 2020, talking about having state legislatures call special sessions to manually insert electors for Donald.
 
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Elimination of the EC is a leftist pipe dream. Get past it
 
He may win the popular vote, but he's not going to lose the electoral college.
He'll lose PA and NC. Michigan and Wisconsin look like they could be Harris' by around midnight. GA....who knows.
If Hurricane Milton's aftermath turns out to depress Republican voter turnout in western and central Florida then who knows?
Florida could go blue. That's a longshot though.
Judging by Kari Lake's poll numbers in AZ voters there may be leaning more Democrat this year, but I predict it will pretty much be over already by the time the polls close in Arizona.
Harris will have 270 well before midnight mountain time.
 
He'll lose PA and NC. Michigan and Wisconsin look like they could be Harris' by around midnight. GA....who knows.
If Hurricane Milton's aftermath turns out to depress Republican voter turnout in western and central Florida then who knows?
Florida could go blue. That's a longshot though.
Judging by Kari Lake's poll numbers in AZ voters there may be leaning more Democrat this year, but I predict it will pretty much be over already by the time the polls close in Arizona.
Harris will have 270 well before midnight mountain time.
Lay off the crack pipe. Trump will not only take the EC and with the trend going right now, Trump would likely trounce the popular vote as well.
 
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