If trump Was President Right Now...

[surada]

Israel has been expanding it's borders for 50 years. What do you mean?

 

[Juicin]

Israel has been expanding it's borders for 50 years. What do you mean?

You think that's because of international law and precedent or our direct support? lol

There would be no Israel at all, irrelevant of law, without our support

Russia is a nuclear power house that has dominated the region for centuries.....Israel is a settler colonial abomination that only exists because many Americans have an insane theology.

 

[surada]

You think that's because of international law and precedent or our direct support? lol

There would be no Israel at all, irrelevant of law, without our support

Russia is a nuclear power house that has dominated the region for centuries.....Israel is a settler colonial abomination that only exists because many Americans have an insane theology.

Israel is the exception to international law.

 

[Juicin]

Israel is the exception to international law.

Israel is an exception to the laws of power

Our support of them is totally irrational on every level imaginable outside theology

The arabs should have wiped them out long ago

 

[BackAgain]

Seems that we have a bunch of right wingers with Amnesia.
Europe Needs to Push Back Against Trump
In the last three years, the Trump administration has fractured the United States’ relationship with its European partners. The most recent manifestation of this was the sudden decision to remove 9,500 U.S. troops from Germany by September, a move that sent shockwaves through NATO.

But this is just one of many instances in which the United States has shown disregard for the wishes and concerns of European partners. Despite international pushback, Washington withdrew from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty in 2019 and this May announced its intentions to withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty.

After the bombshell revelations from former National Security Advisor John Bolton’s book, European fears of American abandonment seem more probable than ever. This includes the possibility of being trapped by the often quixotic foreign-policy decisions emanating from Washington. For example, the abrupt decision last fall to remove U.S. Special Forces from northern Syria both disheartened Kurdish forces and also caught Europe off guard. In light of this, trans-Atlantic partners are walking on eggshells with the Trump administration. But this excessive caution has serious negative consequences, as reluctance to push the United States to uphold the structures that are the backbone of European security could ultimately undermine its position and weaken the trans-Atlantic alliance. Europe should leverage American domestic support for the alliance by working with congressional leaders to secure long-term cooperation.

Europe Needs to Push Back Against Trump

Disastrous and erratic policies demand a stronger response.

foreignpolicy.com

This is what trump was doing for all of you who seem to have amnesia. So to say that Putin would not be doing this if trump was president is laughable. Trump bought into false information about Ukraine from Putin. Remember Crowdstrike?​

“This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves,”-Fiona Hill

Trump Repeats False Ukraine Claims - FactCheck.org

President Donald Trump called into "Fox & Friends" a day after the impeachment hearings ended and repeated false statements that have been debunked by fact-checkers and, in some cases, members of his own administration.

www.factcheck.org

But if trump was president now Putin would not be doing this...

Donald Trump’s Ukraine Scandal Has Its Roots in Russia

Donald Trumpâs Ukraine Scandal Has Its Roots in Russia

Both situations stem from the President’s apparent willingness to accept political favors from foreign leaders, and his eagerness to do Putin’s bidding.

www.newyorker.com

If Donald Trump Had Won 'Russians Would Already Be in Kyiv,' John Bolton Says

Ex-White House national security advisor John Bolton suggested that former President Donald Trump would have "given Ukraine away" had he won the 2020 presidential election and was serving a second term during the current standoff with Russia.

Bolton told Newsweek that a second Trump term would likely have seen the former president double down on the conspiracy theories that poisoned his administration's ties with Kyiv and led to his first of two impeachments.

"I think he would have given Ukraine away, basically," Bolton told Newsweek. "Until they turn over that Democratic National Committee server and find out what Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine, Ukraine was going to fend for itself."

If Donald Trump Had Won 'Russians Would Already Be in Kyiv' Bolton Says

John Bolton, former national security advisor, said Trump would "have given Ukraine away, basically."

www.newsweek.com

John Bolton is no liberal.

Lil im.2 just posted another wall o’ words. TL/DR.

I chose to stop reading somewhere in his first or second verbose paragraph. Some shit about Trump’s disregard of Europe. One of the few things Trump accomplished relative to Europe was getting them to start paying up for their share of NATO. DAMN GOOD TIMING.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

We wouldn't be sticking a country with thousands of nuclear weapons, 100-300 megatons, with hypersonic capability, repeatedly in the eye.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

That Trump signed off on.

Keep walking.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Israel is an exception to the laws of power

Our support of them is totally irrational on every level imaginable outside theology

The arabs should have wiped them out long ago

Many have tried, all have failed and are now the dregs of nations: Egypt, Babylon, Germany and Italy

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Seems that we have a bunch of right wingers with Amnesia.
Europe Needs to Push Back Against Trump
In the last three years, the Trump administration has fractured the United States’ relationship with its European partners. The most recent manifestation of this was the sudden decision to remove 9,500 U.S. troops from Germany by September, a move that sent shockwaves through NATO.

But this is just one of many instances in which the United States has shown disregard for the wishes and concerns of European partners. Despite international pushback, Washington withdrew from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty in 2019 and this May announced its intentions to withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty.

After the bombshell revelations from former National Security Advisor John Bolton’s book, European fears of American abandonment seem more probable than ever. This includes the possibility of being trapped by the often quixotic foreign-policy decisions emanating from Washington. For example, the abrupt decision last fall to remove U.S. Special Forces from northern Syria both disheartened Kurdish forces and also caught Europe off guard. In light of this, trans-Atlantic partners are walking on eggshells with the Trump administration. But this excessive caution has serious negative consequences, as reluctance to push the United States to uphold the structures that are the backbone of European security could ultimately undermine its position and weaken the trans-Atlantic alliance. Europe should leverage American domestic support for the alliance by working with congressional leaders to secure long-term cooperation.

Europe Needs to Push Back Against Trump

Disastrous and erratic policies demand a stronger response.

foreignpolicy.com

This is what trump was doing for all of you who seem to have amnesia. So to say that Putin would not be doing this if trump was president is laughable. Trump bought into false information about Ukraine from Putin. Remember Crowdstrike?​

“This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves,”-Fiona Hill

Trump Repeats False Ukraine Claims - FactCheck.org

President Donald Trump called into "Fox & Friends" a day after the impeachment hearings ended and repeated false statements that have been debunked by fact-checkers and, in some cases, members of his own administration.

www.factcheck.org

But if trump was president now Putin would not be doing this...

Donald Trump’s Ukraine Scandal Has Its Roots in Russia

Donald Trumpâs Ukraine Scandal Has Its Roots in Russia

Both situations stem from the President’s apparent willingness to accept political favors from foreign leaders, and his eagerness to do Putin’s bidding.

www.newyorker.com

If Donald Trump Had Won 'Russians Would Already Be in Kyiv,' John Bolton Says

Ex-White House national security advisor John Bolton suggested that former President Donald Trump would have "given Ukraine away" had he won the 2020 presidential election and was serving a second term during the current standoff with Russia.

Bolton told Newsweek that a second Trump term would likely have seen the former president double down on the conspiracy theories that poisoned his administration's ties with Kyiv and led to his first of two impeachments.

"I think he would have given Ukraine away, basically," Bolton told Newsweek. "Until they turn over that Democratic National Committee server and find out what Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine, Ukraine was going to fend for itself."

If Donald Trump Had Won 'Russians Would Already Be in Kyiv' Bolton Says

John Bolton, former national security advisor, said Trump would "have given Ukraine away, basically."

www.newsweek.com

John Bolton is no liberal.

If Trump was really Putin's puppet, as you claim ad nauseam, he would have invaded Ukraine WHILE Trump was president. This argument you all keep trying to make is flat out stupid.

 

[Juicin]

Many have tried, all have failed and are now the dregs of nations: Egypt, Babylon, Germany and Italy

An American president could do it with a pen stroke frank

Their largest employers are Americans, the contracts they get are from Americans, it's allllllllllll based on our support

And considering the frightening pace of the wokes. I would put that date on Israel ending pretty quick

The rich jews will flee so fast after we end travel and put a few sanctions on them. Will collapse in on itself

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Seems that we have a bunch of right wingers with Amnesia.
Europe Needs to Push Back Against Trump
In the last three years, the Trump administration has fractured the United States’ relationship with its European partners. The most recent manifestation of this was the sudden decision to remove 9,500 U.S. troops from Germany by September, a move that sent shockwaves through NATO.

But this is just one of many instances in which the United States has shown disregard for the wishes and concerns of European partners. Despite international pushback, Washington withdrew from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty in 2019 and this May announced its intentions to withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty.

After the bombshell revelations from former National Security Advisor John Bolton’s book, European fears of American abandonment seem more probable than ever. This includes the possibility of being trapped by the often quixotic foreign-policy decisions emanating from Washington. For example, the abrupt decision last fall to remove U.S. Special Forces from northern Syria both disheartened Kurdish forces and also caught Europe off guard. In light of this, trans-Atlantic partners are walking on eggshells with the Trump administration. But this excessive caution has serious negative consequences, as reluctance to push the United States to uphold the structures that are the backbone of European security could ultimately undermine its position and weaken the trans-Atlantic alliance. Europe should leverage American domestic support for the alliance by working with congressional leaders to secure long-term cooperation.

Europe Needs to Push Back Against Trump

Disastrous and erratic policies demand a stronger response.

foreignpolicy.com

This is what trump was doing for all of you who seem to have amnesia. So to say that Putin would not be doing this if trump was president is laughable. Trump bought into false information about Ukraine from Putin. Remember Crowdstrike?​

“This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves,”-Fiona Hill

Trump Repeats False Ukraine Claims - FactCheck.org

President Donald Trump called into "Fox & Friends" a day after the impeachment hearings ended and repeated false statements that have been debunked by fact-checkers and, in some cases, members of his own administration.

www.factcheck.org

But if trump was president now Putin would not be doing this...

Donald Trump’s Ukraine Scandal Has Its Roots in Russia

Donald Trumpâs Ukraine Scandal Has Its Roots in Russia

Both situations stem from the President’s apparent willingness to accept political favors from foreign leaders, and his eagerness to do Putin’s bidding.

www.newyorker.com

If Donald Trump Had Won 'Russians Would Already Be in Kyiv,' John Bolton Says

Ex-White House national security advisor John Bolton suggested that former President Donald Trump would have "given Ukraine away" had he won the 2020 presidential election and was serving a second term during the current standoff with Russia.

Bolton told Newsweek that a second Trump term would likely have seen the former president double down on the conspiracy theories that poisoned his administration's ties with Kyiv and led to his first of two impeachments.

"I think he would have given Ukraine away, basically," Bolton told Newsweek. "Until they turn over that Democratic National Committee server and find out what Hunter Biden was doing in Ukraine, Ukraine was going to fend for itself."

If Donald Trump Had Won 'Russians Would Already Be in Kyiv' Bolton Says

John Bolton, former national security advisor, said Trump would "have given Ukraine away, basically."

www.newsweek.com

John Bolton is no liberal.

Did Trump make you cry when he wanted Europe to increase their defense spending?
Do you miss Obama being all flexible for Putin?
Does Hillary need to give the Russians another reset button?

 

[BackAgain]

Somebody please give lil im.2 a clue:

Trump is not presently President.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Taking land from another country seems pretty backwards to me no matter who is doing it. By Putin standards Mexico would be justified in taking south Texas.

Then why didn't Barack stop him in Crimea?

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Trump is not President and any failure is on Biden and Harris and not Trump!

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Taking land from another country seems pretty backwards to me no matter who is doing it. By Putin standards Mexico would be justified in taking south Texas.

You would be happy if Mexico did this…

Anyhoo, the reality is you need to understand Biden has to grow a pair and do something or be the wimp he is…

 

[Juicin]

You would be happy if Mexico did this…

Anyhoo, the reality is you need to understand Biden has to grow a pair and do something or be the wimp he is…

You think they wouldn't have already if we were weaker/

When we fought them teh first time they were supposed to win. Hah

It's not fucking international law stopping them you hippy

 

[Devils_Advocate]

You think they wouldn't have already if we were weaker/

When we fought them teh first time they were supposed to win. Hah

It's not fucking international law stopping them you hippy

I am not the one proposing the damn invasion you fucking moron!

 

[DGS49]

IM2 needs to familiarize itself with the subjunctive mood, to wit, "If Trump WERE President..."

Sorry.

Nobody knows how this would be playing out if Trump WERE President. The main elements of this conflict concern a flashpoint between two totally corrupt nations that have been linked for centuries in a way that has few parallels elsewhere on earth. It appears that Russia is (at first) focusing on two provinces in Ukraine that are already Russian "colonies," with a majority of ethnic Russians living there and controlling most activity. It is similar to what Germany was doing in the late 30's - annexing foreign territory where the population was predominantly ethnic-German, and they were happy to be annexed by Germany.

Certainly, no American President is going to put American lives on the line to fight this move by Russia, and our NATO allies are expressing their obligatory outrage, but if Russia focuses on the two named provinces, that is about as far as it will go.

Russia might be able to accomplish what it wants with little bloodshed, and if so, it will pass just as the annexation of Crimea passed.

Biden or Trump...no difference other than style.

 

[Juicin]

I am not the one proposing the damn invasion you fucking moron!

That's not the fucking point. The point is precedent of made up law doesn't matter. Power and incentives do

 

[SavannahMann]

Biden tried to set up his own geopolitical win, lying about an invasion of "ukraine" when clearly they were never going to invade anywhere but the Russian speaking parts

So not this would not have happened if Trump was in office simply because Trump wouldn't have come out and said "RUSSIA IS INVADING (forget Afghanistan)", escalating the situation by a factor of 100.

As happened with Obama, Putin looked at Biden and thought to himself....."you have no leverage here". Then did what he wanted. With Obama it was in Syria. With Biden it'll be eastern Ukraine. Maybe democrat presidents should just shut the fuck up about declining Russia and they wouldn't feel the need to openly spit in our eye.

Ok, so the movement of troops into what is recognized as Ukraine is OK, because it’s just the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine? Great.

So if Mexico takes over a few thousand miles of New Mexico, and argues that it’s fine because that is the Spanish speaking part, you wouldn’t mind?

I mean, that is your argument. They speak the language there, so we have to accept it right?

Idiot.