If Trump tariffs work bigly would Democrats have even a small chance to win the midterms or the 2028 presidency?

Ah, you're RETARDED.
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Folks like the one you just spoke to are about to drive me out of this board, where so many Left Cultists have nothing more relevant to say than, "I didn't understand what you just said so you're a nazi racist fascist poopyhead, so THERE!"

I swear. It's spring and there are useful things to do.


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Specific tariffs can be used as a tactical move. For instance in blocking food produced under shitty american standards. Chlorinated chicken being one.
But trump has introduced blanket tariffs and then cancelled them and then brought them back.
Nobody knows what the current position is.
I will tell you. He is praying for China to let him off the hook. Thats why he is begging them for a deal.
He has forced the civilised world to side with China as the lesser of two evils.
And damaged US exports for generations to come. People wont buy american any more.
Yeah..., right. That's the leftist narrative. The truth is, no one in the media or on this forum knows all the details on why the Trump administration feels it is necessary to do things in this way. Geopolitics is very complicated and most of the information needed to make decisions is secret. There is a reason why the government can't kick this can down the road anymore. But don't let that stop you from hating everything Trump and falling for media propaganda. My guess is this reaction to tariffs will eventually come back to bite the democrats in the ass when things become more clear.
 
You understand that Trump is reaching out to China, correct? China is making no effort to negotiate with Trump.

China is not going to negotiate with the U.S. until Trump drops the tariffs. Period. This trade war hurts the U.S. a lot more than it hurts China.
Why are you assuming ANY of that is true? What the hell do you know about this that the rest of us dont?

Lets assume that Trump or Trumps team called them. How is that "caving"? There will be MANY conversations. Thats how you negotiate. Am i missing something here? "Caving" would be saying "oh nevermind, we will remove our tariffs and ask for nothing in return". Youre delusional if you think thats going to happen.
 
Yeah..., right. That's the leftist narrative. The truth is, no one in the media or on this forum knows all the details on why the Trump administration feels it is necessary to do things in this way.
If that's the case, then you shouldn't give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Many Trump has no clue what he is doing....ever thought of that??

Trump has demonstrated his incompetence many times in the past...especially during Covid. You're foolish to trust him at this point.

Geopolitics is very complicated and most of the information needed to make decisions is secret. There is a reason why the government can't kick this can down the road anymore. But don't let that stop you from hating everything Trump and falling for media propaganda. My guess is this reaction to tariffs will eventually come back to bite the democrats in the ass when things become more clear.
There is no happy ending for Trump and these tariffs. Period. Even if by some miracle Trump is "correct" and these tariffs help the U.S., it will be a very slow process that takes several years. There will be a lot of suffering by millions of Americans before the tariffs finally "pay off", including millions of MAGA voters.

This is why the Republican Party has been against tariffs for the past 100 years...they cause more harm than good. Rand Paul is correct when he says that these tariffs are going to be a disaster for the Republican Party for many years to come.

Even Elon Musk is against these tariffs.....that should alarm even the most brain-dead Trump supporter.
 
Why are you assuming ANY of that is true? What the hell do you know about this that the rest of us dont?
China has said they aren't going to negotiate until Trump drops the tariffs. I believe China more than a guy like Trump, who lies every time he speaks.

Lets assume that Trump or Trumps team called them. How is that "caving"? There will be MANY conversations. Thats how you negotiate. Am i missing something here? "Caving" would be saying "oh nevermind, we will remove our tariffs and ask for nothing in return". Youre delusional if you think thats going to happen.
That is exactly what is going to happen. China is going to win this trade war without giving up anything. They are laughing at Trump right now, he is such a mentally ill imbecile.
 
China has said they aren't going to negotiate until Trump drops the tariffs. I believe China more than a guy like Trump, who lies every time he speaks.
Yet they already dropped some of theirs first. Meanwhile, all of our tariffs still stand.
That is exactly what is going to happen. China is going to win this trade war without giving up anything. They are laughing at Trump right now, he is such a mentally ill imbecile.
Why would Trump EVER give up the trade war with China if they give nothing in return? That isnt going to happen. The US will do just fine if we settle all the trade wars with the rest of the world, which we certainly will. We dont need China. China on the other hand will crumble if they dont make a deal, so they WILL make a deal. They will act tough for as long as they possibly can, then they will make a deal.
 
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Democrats have no idea what tariffs are, what they do or why Trump is using them. Every trade agreement Trump wrangles out with tariffs to democrats is Trump caving. Their ignorance is so astounding that it can't be real. It's just anti Trump garbage that they keep eating, regurgitating and eating again.

Ask them. What do they believe the goal of Trump's tariffs are? They don't know. They start blathering senselessly.
 
China has said they aren't going to negotiate until Trump drops the tariffs. I believe China more than a guy like Trump, who lies every time he speaks.


That is exactly what is going to happen. China is going to win this trade war without giving up anything. They are laughing at Trump right now, he is such a mentally ill imbecile.
Un huh

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
 
If that's the case, then you shouldn't give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Many Trump has no clue what he is doing....ever thought of that??

Trump has demonstrated his incompetence many times in the past...especially during Covid. You're foolish to trust him at this point.


There is no happy ending for Trump and these tariffs. Period. Even if by some miracle Trump is "correct" and these tariffs help the U.S., it will be a very slow process that takes several years. There will be a lot of suffering by millions of Americans before the tariffs finally "pay off", including millions of MAGA voters.

This is why the Republican Party has been against tariffs for the past 100 years...they cause more harm than good. Rand Paul is correct when he says that these tariffs are going to be a disaster for the Republican Party for many years to come.

Even Elon Musk is against these tariffs.....that should alarm even the most brain-dead Trump supporter.
You neo-leftists are all the same. There is a neo-leftist cookie cutter out there, probably a TikTok club, where you all get your narratives. The funny thing is, it really doesn't matter how insane the narrative is in reality, all that matters to the club is how many thousands of times you repeated the insane narrative. Quantity over quality.
 
Yeah..., right. That's the leftist narrative.

You are new here. Let me explain something to you about Tommy--- he is an idiot living in Wales 4,000 miles away who is very envious of America. Nothing happens in Wales. Nobody gives a shit about Wales. Sometimes people use tariffs specific to certain products, brands or industries and sometimes they are used like now as a blanket. That is because Trump isn't attacking a product or industry practice, it is addressing a National issue.

Not only is Trump using them to raise revenue (billions) in order to help bale us out before our debt hits the critical point, but he is using them drastically and unpredictably to add the element of uncertainty with quick rewards for those that come clean with us and/or move manufacturing investments back here.

He is killing China and right now, there are riots in China as factories shut down and millions are faced with unemployment there. That alone proves that the tariffs are working and sales of chinese goods in America (their biggest customer) is way down. China wholly depends on exports (their trade is 5:1 against us) and Trump's tariffs are having the double impact of shutting down their economy at a very bad time for them while also encouraging moving manufacturing back here where we will no longer be vulnerable to chinese monopolization of key industries.

Tommy Titweiller must have lots of investments in China, meanwhile, all we need to do is keep up the pressure and hang in there and weather through some downturns for a while until we turn the corner. Already, Trump has a new exotic mineral deal with Ukraine that makes us less dependent on China.
 
You are new here. Let me explain something to you about Tommy--- he is an idiot living in Wales 4,000 miles away who is very envious of America. Nothing happens in Wales. Nobody gives a shit about Wales. Sometimes people use tariffs specific to certain products, brands or industries and sometimes they are used like now as a blanket. That is because Trump isn't attacking a product or industry practice, it is addressing a National issue.

Not only is Trump using them to raise revenue (billions) in order to help bale us out before our debt hits the critical point, but he is using them drastically and unpredictably to add the element of uncertainty with quick rewards for those that come clean with us and/or move manufacturing investments back here.

He is killing China and right now, there are riots in China as factories shut down and millions are faced with unemployment there. That alone proves that the tariffs are working and sales of chinese goods in America (their biggest customer) is way down. China wholly depends on exports (their trade is 5:1 against us) and Trump's tariffs are having the double impact of shutting down their economy at a very bad time for them while also encouraging moving manufacturing back here where we will no longer be vulnerable to chinese monopolization of key industries.

Tommy Titweiller must have lots of investments in China, meanwhile, all we need to do is keep up the pressure and hang in there and weather through some downturns for a while until we turn the corner. Already, Trump has a new exotic mineral deal with Ukraine that makes us less dependent on China.
It's not just him. Every leftist is from the same cookie cutter, they all repeat the exact same things, almost verbatim, with certain buzzwords used ad nauseam. Not one stops to think that maybe they are being used/manipulated to spread these narratives and never go into much thought at all if it is all just political propaganda BS or not. If they were to actually be forced to listen to both sides of an argument they would realize that global trade is off balance and the root cause of it is China with very predatory trade practices that greatly benefit China and ruin the local economies of the rest of the world. Until now, no one was willing to confront them and everyone just kicked the can down the road. China is outplaying the US and Europe and will soon be the dominant superpower and then the American way of life will change drastically. I really think the leftists don't care about that. But when it does happen they will not be happy.
 
It's not just him. Every leftist is from the same cookie cutter, they all repeat the exact same things, almost verbatim, with certain buzzwords used ad nauseam.
That is the Left's weakness. While conservatives promote tolerance, rugged individualism and self-actualization, the Left operate like a Borg hive mind through centralized power--- one mind, one message. Intolerance, all that matters is the party, not the individual. That is why they have no tolerance for anyone deviating from the central plan. Look at how they attacked Chuckie Schumer the minute he told them to think smart and to pick their battles wisely.

Not one stops to think that maybe they are being used/manipulated to spread these narratives and never go into much thought at all if it is all just political propaganda BS or not.
Weak-minded people are attracted to statism where nothing is questioned and orders are simply followed. It is all for the good of the party and the common agenda.

If they were to actually be forced to listen to both sides of an argument they would realize that global trade is off balance and the root cause of it is China with very predatory trade practices that greatly benefit China and ruin the local economies of the rest of the world. Until now, no one was willing to confront them and everyone just kicked the can down the road.
That is why they don't listen. They simply tune out anyone who dares think outside the box or question anything. When asked, they have no answers, no defense; Hollywood directs the message both in Washington and through outlets like The View and Stephen Colbert. It is like there is a playbook they hand out that says when asked about this, say that. Go up to any progressive on the street and corner them on any issue and they know absolutely nothing about what is really going on and they all repeat the same imbecilic stuff verbatim.

China is outplaying the US and Europe and will soon be the dominant superpower and then the American way of life will change drastically. I really think the leftists don't care about that. But when it does happen they will not be happy.
China has been trying to monopolize the world for years. They are everywhere trying to take control of Panama, Brazil, Canada, Europe. If they are not stopped now, they will call all of the shots. Hard to say what leftists care about, they are not receptive either because they are too stupid to understand or are bought into it.
  • They campaign on women's rights then abort them and take away their ability to compete in sports or even shower in private.
  • They are never concerned about anything they do but are in a panic over what everyone else does.
  • Whatever they warn you about is what they are doing.
  • They call capitol protesters insurrectionists and traitors while spending years selling everyone on the need to buy an EV. Then they go out and burn them down and try to destroy the stock on what they all bought into acting like terrorists.
 
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  • They campaign on women's rights then abort them and take away their ability to compete in sports or even shower in private.
  • They are never concerned about anything they do but are in a panic over what everyone else does.
  • Whatever they warn you about is what they are doing.
  • They call capitol protesters insurrectionists and traitors while spending years selling everyone on the need to buy an EV. Then they go out and burn them down and try to destroy the stock on what they all bought into acting like terrorists.
Consistency was never the left's strong point. Their beliefs and actions change with the political winds. It doesn't take much effort to find thousands of instances where the democrat leaders said something has to be done with China's predatory trade practices, but they never actually did anything. And when someone on the right finally grows a pair and does something about it, the left gets scared to death that it may be a win for the other side and they have to derail it as much as possible, even if it means handing the keys over to China. It's true, if you pay attention to this tariff debate, if a leftist has to choose between Trump and China each and every one chooses China. I bet if Trump says he is going to make abortion legal right up until birth, just like the left wants, the left would then, all of a sudden, become pro life. It really is ridiculous how deranged the left has become. They used to be more intellectual, but these neo-leftists are now completely anti-intellectual.
 
You neo-leftists are all the same. There is a neo-leftist cookie cutter out there, probably a TikTok club, where you all get your narratives. The funny thing is, it really doesn't matter how insane the narrative is in reality, all that matters to the club is how many thousands of times you repeated the insane narrative. Quantity over quality.
Elon Musk says you are stupid, gomer....just like he said to Trump's imbecile economist, Peter Navarro.

Please keep pretending that Trump knows what the fuck he is doing. You are hilarious.
 
Elon Musk says you are stupid, gomer....just like he said to Trump's imbecile economist, Peter Navarro.

Please keep pretending that Trump knows what the fuck he is doing. You are hilarious.
And you neo-leftists all say Elon Musk is an idiot. Please keep pretending that you neo-leftists know what you are being told to repeat and aren't always wrong about everything. It's really pathetic.
 
And you neo-leftists all say Elon Musk is an idiot.

Common modality of the low IQ Left: to try to discredit all that they do not like and agree with. Trump with no background nor experience in politics in short order garners the biggest political following in history, and beats three of their best career politicians--- so obviously, he must be an idiot.

Musk comes here from Africa, creates the largest EV car company in the world, other leading technologies, takes over their preferred Twitter, and finally, creates SpaceX which outshines both NASA and Boeing in rocket technology, then comes in and finds everything our government is doing wrong or badly, so obviously, he too must just be an idiot.

When all else fails (and everything has failed for the Left) just try to discredit your superiors by declaring: "Pay no attention to the guy behind the red curtain."

Meanwhile, they actually run behind actual idiots.


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Common modality of the low IQ Left: to try to discredit all that they do not like and agree with. Trump with no background nor experience in politics in short order garners the biggest political following in history, and beats three of their best career politicians--- so obviously, he must be an idiot.

Musk comes here from Africa, creates the largest EV car company in the world, other leading technologies, takes over their preferred Twitter, and finally, creates SpaceX which outshines both NASA and Boeing in rocket technology, then comes in and finds everything our government is doing wrong or badly, so obviously, he too must just be an idiot.

When all else fails (and everything has failed for the Left) just try to discredit your superiors by declaring: "Pay no attention to the guy behind the red curtain."

Meanwhile, they actually run behind actual idiots.


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It's actually pretty funny to see that neo-leftists can have mutually exclusive narratives running at the same time and not realize it, or maybe they know it and just don't care. In one thread they go to extremes to try and say Musk is an idiot, while at the same time in another they say Musk is a genius. And they wonder why no one thinks the democrap party is genuine, well, except for themselves. They think the democrap propaganda is pure truth, even if it is often contradicts itself.
 
And they wonder why no one thinks the democrap party is genuine, well, except for themselves.

That is because the message and public aim of the democrats change from month to month, day by day, season after season, often in stark conflict with their past record as if they are unaware it is all recorded on video, while at the same time, sticking to an increasingly anti-social, anti-USA platform.
 
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