If this is true, we are in trouble...

[OnePercenter]

You wrote: "You cannot expect a person to invest 8 years of their life and borrowed money to become a doctor and make as much as much as a truck driver."

I wrote: "You stated that truck drivers make as much as Physicians. As a truck driver, please dedact personal information and post your paycheck stub to prove that."

Your turn, put-up or shut-up.

Now WTF in my statement does it say a driver makes as much as a doctor? Who taught you how to read?

Let me stoop down to your level so perhaps you'll understand: A doctor has to get paid much more than a truck driver for he or she to go through 8 years of college. Now do you understand?

Being a tad narcissistic today are we? I was quoting and answering answering Mikey, not you....

So you admit, it is a reading problem, huh? Hint: the person you are quoting is on top of all the other replies.

You forgot which poster you were logged-on as? Yeah, we know. Now the staff knows too.

 

[OnePercenter]

I am a Fascist, and I certainly don't value the freedom of anybody to f*ck up society.

Capitalism is a big problem in the USA & most dont see it.

Then you are why we have a 2nd Amendment...............

And again....you can't see the forest for the trees..........which is most of America now.........

Again........I ask you what will you do to end capitalism in this country......specifically with small business owners.........How will you IMPLEMENT YOUR FACISM.............hmmmm

There must be regulation against outsourcing, hiring illegals, monopolies & in the case of media & Hollywood against biases.

Fascism therefor makes the most sense.

We can't continue on this way.

We already have laws against hiring illegals and monopolies. The rest are not controlled by the federal government in a free country.

Croney Capitalism creates monopolies............who the gov't deems fit.......and who pays the politicians decides.

Well I'm unaware of one monopoly in the US. Perhaps Satellite Radio, but nobody needs satellite radio in the first place. And it's not really a monopoly because all other radio is free and available to everybody.

The big three healthcare insurance companies have a full control over supply.

 

[sparky]

The rich do get better care, but that's because they're smarter patients who will search out better teatments, and newer procedures, and they can afford any extras which might improve their outcome, like a private trainer to help with weight loss, but the medical treatment they get is the same, rich or poor.

We've a pandemic of closing ER's juxtaposed to coast to coast openings of 'urgent care centers'

This phenomenon serves ONE purpose, for the insurance cabal to skirt JACHO regs

their very first order of biz, is to vet anyone walking in as to their policy validity

Keep in mind, this by far and large outshines the two dimensional binary insurance / no insurance narrative

This is literally choosing WHO they'll do biz with. along with WHO will get referrals to higher medical care

~S~

 

[Skull Pilot]

So, if the government, and businesses both shouldn't pay people well, or give them insurance, how are they supposed to get by, exactly?

This is what pisses me off about Republicans, they always kick down Americans like this, which is why it's in my signature.

It's totally true, Democrats care more about giving to foreigners so often, and Republicans just think everybody in America deserves less.

It's complete madness.

In 99 percent of the cases, people are paid their exact worth. If someone is worth more or gains more skills, they will be paid in accordance with their increased worth.

Please show us all where Republicans "always kick down Americans like this". How too are someones bad choices in life MY responsibility?

Saying that "Republicans just think everybody in America deserves less" is foolish, a sign of desperation. Grow up.

Sometimes, but not necessarily. Some very smart people have worked lower end jobs like Nikola Tesla digging ditches, or Einstein filing patents.

Nikola Tesla's value is tremendous, some CEO who gives American jobs to foreigners not so much.

Yet Tesla died a poor man

But they didn't stay at those jobs for 20 years did they?

And Tesla died poor because he went nuts

 

[Skull Pilot]

/——/ it’s a liberal Strawman argument

I am anything but a Liberal.

Not according to what you post. You don't believe in personal responsibility.

How about Corporate responsibility to stop outsourcing, stop hiring illegals, stop creating junky products & pay the workers what they deserve.

I think you hugely misunderstand who corporations have a responsibility to, let alone what those responsibilities are. And I KNOW you're completely out-to-lunch on WHY.

Either you are for America, or you're not.

Capitalism has become unpatriotic, point blank.

Go be Capitalism scum elsewhere.
Go f*ck up someone elses country.

I simply refuse Capitalism before the people & selling out my generations future.

Yes Socialism and communism are much better

 

[JoeB131]

They were not responsible for the alleged 60K you said you ran up all they were responsible for was the part of the premium they agreed to pay and there is no way that premium went up to 60K

Once again your lack of knowledge in these simple areas of business management illustrates the falseness of your tale

Oh, no, they paid the premium.. and then Cigna told them to get rid of anyone who had medical issues, and that's who they started cutting.

But they had to pay me a nice big, "Please don't sue us" severance package...

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, I’m sure that if they offered hundreds of thousands of dollars for a surgery, they would refuse. Who do you think you’re kidding?

They come here for our high quality care, and yes, that includes Canadians. So don’t flatter yourself thinking they would rather be taken care of in Canada if they could.

I talk with plenty of Canadian truck drivers. The older ones all told me the same thing about our care: Keep what you got or you’ll be sorry.

Funny, I talk with Canadians who have greater job skills than "Driving in a straight line" and they all tell me how wonderful their system is and how they would hate to get sick or injured in the US.

The fact that foreigners come here for health care most Americans can't get access to is nothing to be proud of.

 

[Skull Pilot]

They were not responsible for the alleged 60K you said you ran up all they were responsible for was the part of the premium they agreed to pay and there is no way that premium went up to 60K

Once again your lack of knowledge in these simple areas of business management illustrates the falseness of your tale

Oh, no, they paid the premium.. and then Cigna told them to get rid of anyone who had medical issues, and that's who they started cutting.

But they had to pay me a nice big, "Please don't sue us" severance package...

Bullshit.

I've been paying 90% of my employee's premiums for over 10 years and have never been contacted by my insurance co about anyone using their insurance.

Sorry but an insurance company doesn't tell a business customer to "get rid of people"

 

[JoeB131]

I've been paying 90% of my employee's premiums for over 10 years and have never been contacted by my insurance co about anyone using their insurance.

Sorry but an insurance company doesn't tell a business customer to "get rid of people"

Sure they do, all the time... Come on, what do you think the whole 'pre-existing condition' thing is about?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I've been paying 90% of my employee's premiums for over 10 years and have never been contacted by my insurance co about anyone using their insurance.

Sorry but an insurance company doesn't tell a business customer to "get rid of people"

Sure they do, all the time... Come on, what do you think the whole 'pre-existing condition' thing is about?

So you lie yet again.

All a group insurance provider ever does is increase the premium they don't tell their customers who to hire and fire

If you racked up all these medical costs as you say while you were in their employ there was no preexisting condition. Didn't you say this was an injury before? Injuries are not preexisting conditions

And FYI before Obammy care we were never asked about preexisiting conditions on our group health insurance. And no one was ever kicked off for racking up medical costs

 

[Cellblock2429]

They were not responsible for the alleged 60K you said you ran up all they were responsible for was the part of the premium they agreed to pay and there is no way that premium went up to 60K

Once again your lack of knowledge in these simple areas of business management illustrates the falseness of your tale

Oh, no, they paid the premium.. and then Cigna told them to get rid of anyone who had medical issues, and that's who they started cutting.

But they had to pay me a nice big, "Please don't sue us" severance package...

Bullshit.

I've been paying 90% of my employee's premiums for over 10 years and have never been contacted by my insurance co about anyone using their insurance.

Sorry but an insurance company doesn't tell a business customer to "get rid of people"

/----/ But you forget Libtards value hyperbole over facts all of the time. Your practical experience is hateful to them.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The rich do get better care, but that's because they're smarter patients who will search out better teatments, and newer procedures, and they can afford any extras which might improve their outcome, like a private trainer to help with weight loss, but the medical treatment they get is the same, rich or poor.

We've a pandemic of closing ER's juxtaposed to coast to coast openings of 'urgent care centers'

This phenomenon serves ONE purpose, for the insurance cabal to skirt JACHO regs

their very first order of biz, is to vet anyone walking in as to their policy validity

Keep in mind, this by far and large outshines the two dimensional binary insurance / no insurance narrative

This is literally choosing WHO they'll do biz with. along with WHO will get referrals to higher medical care

~S~

/----/ This is what happens when Gubmint interferes with healthcare. I'm old enough to remember when healthcare was affordable and readily available. And if you couldn't afford to pay upfront or had no insurance, you simply made a payment plan to pay your bill. Since our PC physician is booked solid for two months we rely on an Immediate Care associated by a hospital and staffed with their ER physicians.

 

[MisterBeale]

These statistics are claimed to be true:
1. 50% of American wage earners earn less than $30k.
2. 63% of Americans can’t afford a $1,000 emergency.
3. 80% of American workers live pay check to pay check.
4. Since 1973 American productivity has increased by 77%, yet hourly pay has grown by 12%. If the minimum wage was tracked to productivity, it would be over $20 an hour today.
5. 41% of American workers earn less than $12 per hour, with most without employer provided HC.
6. Since 2008 the federal government and the Fed created $26 trillion out of nothing. Was any of this enormous sum spent on infrastructure, public education, universal HC, bail out 5.1 million people who lost their homes?

Not a pretty picture for the poor and middle class. Hopefully things are improving or we are headed for big trouble.

All your points have validity , but all won't be solved by any given politician OR election

Nothing in our lives will change this November , because this is a course we've been on for a generation.

The rich get richer, the poor get poorer in America , that's FACT

I've seen this video before.

The only problem with it?

It has so few folks at the very top.

The funny thing is, we KNOW who they are. Why doesn't the video just NAME THEM? Why doesn't it just name which companies and government agencies they control?

Why doesn't it point out the fascist nature, and the corruption?

These folks are controlling the game, why not call this shit out for what it is, and name the criminals?

I can't, folks on the left and the right CONTINUE, EVERY SINGLE DAY, to quote from WaPo, and this Christmas, everyone of you idiots will still be using and watching Amazon.

WHY??!!!



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The CIA, Washington Post, And Russia: What You're Not Being Told

Washington Post-CIA connections: back to basics
Washington Post-CIA connections: back to basics

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I am anything but a Liberal.

Not according to what you post. You don't believe in personal responsibility.

How about Corporate responsibility to stop outsourcing, stop hiring illegals, stop creating junky products & pay the workers what they deserve.

I think you hugely misunderstand who corporations have a responsibility to, let alone what those responsibilities are. And I KNOW you're completely out-to-lunch on WHY.

Either you are for America, or you're not.

Capitalism has become unpatriotic, point blank.

Go be Capitalism scum elsewhere.
Go f*ck up someone elses country.

I simply refuse Capitalism before the people & selling out my generations future.

Yes Socialism and communism are much better

Communism is terrible too, and while Communism might lead to slightly worse economic results than our Capitalism, the Communists never had a ton of jobs going to foreigners who disrespect them like Illegals from Mexico, or peoples in China getting "Our Capitalist Jobs".

As for "Social Democracy" like what they have in Sweden, they actually pay less for healthcare, and for colleges because it is an extension of the government who helps people pay for it.

So, I don't know how Social Democracy is inferior, perhaps inferior for the rich, and superior for everybody else, that sounds about right.

 

[Dragonlady]

The rich do get better care, but that's because they're smarter patients who will search out better teatments, and newer procedures, and they can afford any extras which might improve their outcome, like a private trainer to help with weight loss, but the medical treatment they get is the same, rich or poor.

We've a pandemic of closing ER's juxtaposed to coast to coast openings of 'urgent care centers'

This phenomenon serves ONE purpose, for the insurance cabal to skirt JACHO regs

their very first order of biz, is to vet anyone walking in as to their policy validity

Keep in mind, this by far and large outshines the two dimensional binary insurance / no insurance narrative

This is literally choosing WHO they'll do biz with. along with WHO will get referrals to higher medical care

~S~

/----/ This is what happens when Gubmint interferes with healthcare. I'm old enough to remember when healthcare was affordable and readily available. And if you couldn't afford to pay upfront or had no insurance, you simply made a payment plan to pay your bill. Since our PC physician is booked solid for two months we rely on an Immediate Care associated by a hospital and staffed with their ER physicians.

You don't have government running your health care. You have INSURANCE COMPANIES running your health care for profit. All of your health care is run for profit. If you're not a profitable patient, you don't matter. People of Medicare and Medicaid are not profitable. Reimbursement rates for treatment are low - much lower than insurance companies pay for similar treatment. That's why for profit facilities reject people receiving government funded care.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The rich do get better care, but that's because they're smarter patients who will search out better teatments, and newer procedures, and they can afford any extras which might improve their outcome, like a private trainer to help with weight loss, but the medical treatment they get is the same, rich or poor.

We've a pandemic of closing ER's juxtaposed to coast to coast openings of 'urgent care centers'

This phenomenon serves ONE purpose, for the insurance cabal to skirt JACHO regs

their very first order of biz, is to vet anyone walking in as to their policy validity

Keep in mind, this by far and large outshines the two dimensional binary insurance / no insurance narrative

This is literally choosing WHO they'll do biz with. along with WHO will get referrals to higher medical care

~S~

/----/ This is what happens when Gubmint interferes with healthcare. I'm old enough to remember when healthcare was affordable and readily available. And if you couldn't afford to pay upfront or had no insurance, you simply made a payment plan to pay your bill. Since our PC physician is booked solid for two months we rely on an Immediate Care associated by a hospital and staffed with their ER physicians.

You don't have government running your health care. You have INSURANCE COMPANIES

/-----/ I'm old enough to know better.
Health Care: 100 Years of Creeping Government Control - Police State USA

1. Artificial restrictions on the supply, causing an inevitable increase in prices. Entering the health care field now requires an enormous investment of time and capital from the aspiring entrepreneur. These exorbitant costs also stem from a heavily regulated education market, but that is beyond the scope of this article.
2. Artificial creation of demand, causing an equally inevitable increase in prices. Luxurious amounts of health care are utilized by people who would otherwise only be able to afford the minimum.
3. Restrictions on the consumer’s ability to price shop. Insurance plans have been specifically designed to shield consumers from the actual costs of the services that they purchase. The customer has no incentive — or practical ability — to shop for the best price, leaving no motivation for the suppliers to lower their costs.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Either you are for America, or you're not.

Capitalism has become unpatriotic, point blank.

Go be Capitalism scum elsewhere.
Go f*ck up someone elses country.

I simply refuse Capitalism before the people & selling out my generations future.

What a Fascist thing to say................

Ok.......Riddle me this............how do you propose to end it..........for starters...........tell me about small business owners........what will you do here..............should be interesting.

I am a Fascist, and I certainly don't value the freedom of anybody to f*ck up society.

Capitalism is a big problem in the USA & most dont see it.

Then you are why we have a 2nd Amendment...............

And again....you can't see the forest for the trees..........which is most of America now.........

Again........I ask you what will you do to end capitalism in this country......specifically with small business owners.........How will you IMPLEMENT YOUR FACISM.............hmmmm

There must be regulation against outsourcing, hiring illegals, monopolies & in the case of media & Hollywood against biases.

Fascism therefor makes the most sense.

We can't continue on this way.

You have stated repeatedly you are a Fascist...........You hate Capitalism and it must end......then you Dance when I ask you what will you do to small business owners................Who are MOST DEFINETLY CAPITALIST...........

They are all over this country.........owned by small people......They are not the Globalist..........You paint with a broad brush......Say DEATH TO CAPITALISM...........Do you even know what it means......

Again........I ask you.......what will you do to the small business owners.

Fascists had Councils regulate businesses, indeed, but BIG BUSINESSES only.

Small businesses require regulation too, because of the Illegal Immigrant fiasco.

I don't think we need to regulate small businesses as much, but common sense, no Illegals, no selling drugs, no brothels etc. etc.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Either you are for America, or you're not.

Capitalism has become unpatriotic, point blank.

Go be Capitalism scum elsewhere.
Go f*ck up someone elses country.

I simply refuse Capitalism before the people & selling out my generations future.

What a Fascist thing to say................

Ok.......Riddle me this............how do you propose to end it..........for starters...........tell me about small business owners........what will you do here..............should be interesting.

I am a Fascist, and I certainly don't value the freedom of anybody to f*ck up society.

Capitalism is a big problem in the USA & most dont see it.

Then you are why we have a 2nd Amendment...............

And again....you can't see the forest for the trees..........which is most of America now.........

Again........I ask you what will you do to end capitalism in this country......specifically with small business owners.........How will you IMPLEMENT YOUR FACISM.............hmmmm

There must be regulation against outsourcing, hiring illegals, monopolies & in the case of media & Hollywood against biases.

Fascism therefor makes the most sense.

We can't continue on this way.

"I am smarter than everyone, and therefore I should tell you how to live!"

What we have doesn't work.

So let's keep trying the same thing, over, and over, again.

As if that makes some kind of sense.

Absolutely the system is BROKEN, 10's of millions of foreigners taking our jobs, and tax-base be it Illegals from Mexico, or manufacturers in China.

The bottomline is doing the same things that caused the issues, is just going to cause the same issues, over, and over again.

That's why we need to look at other options, unfortunately most Americans are really dumb, and stuck in their ways.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

How about Corporate responsibility to stop outsourcing, stop hiring illegals, stop creating junky products & pay the workers what they deserve.

I think you hugely misunderstand who corporations have a responsibility to, let alone what those responsibilities are. And I KNOW you're completely out-to-lunch on WHY.

Either you are for America, or you're not.

Capitalism has become unpatriotic, point blank.

Go be Capitalism scum elsewhere.
Go f*ck up someone elses country.

I simply refuse Capitalism before the people & selling out my generations future.

Y'know what, Microbrain? I'm not listening to this "If you don't agree with me, you HATE AMERICA!" shit. You want to sit around and mentally masturbate on how your political views are the One True Religion, you just go on with your bad self.

But don't expect me to treat you as though you're a person.

Capitalism has become junk & will be the death of America.

You know what you remind me of? The stinky homeless guy on the street who's earnestly telling everyone how the end is nigh, and is utterly oblivious to the fact that no one's listening to a word he's saying because they don't respect him and just want to avoid him as fast as possible. And yet he keeps holding forth, just as if someone's miraculously going to take him seriously.

You know how I know everything you think is dead wrong and totally ignorant? Because you think it.

Some Homeless can be intelligent, look at the Homeless guy Ronald Poppo cannibalized by Black Haitian Rudy Eugene.

Ronald Poppo had an IQ of 129.

But, I can see you're one of those people who only respect things that are familiar, and look good.
(Bad choice)

The fact of the matter is everything you are trying has been tried before, and created this mess.

Yet, you call for the same thing, that caused the problems.

Real Wages are in decline since 1970 give, or take.

We're not going to secure our economy by doing what got us here.

To think so is either very dumb, or very insane. I frankly don't have any desire for either, thank you very much.

 

[LittleNipper]

There is one simple way to fix the wage issue. Tie the pay of Congressmen, Senators, and other governmental officials to the median wage of the average American citizen.