If There Was No Fraud, Why?

[PoliticalChic]

The fact that you need to repeat yourself over and over again instead of being able to progress in the discussion shows that you don’t know what your talking about.

In this case you are completely ignoring the role that the judicial branch plays in our systems of government. The judicial branch exists and is given power via our constitution. It is a check and balance on the power of the other branches. So while the legislators do play a role in making laws and regulations. The court also plays a role in how the laws are executed and enforced. This happens at both a state and national level.

your lazy and incorrect assessment dismisses the courts as some corrupt insignificant entity and focuses on one singular argument that the legislators are all powerful. This is not true which is why you are WRONG.

The so-called Supreme Court is just as flawed, refusing to enforce the Constitution.


You should admit the facts, and simply enjoy having gotten away with stealing the election.

The rest of us know it, and are laughing at the results you have accrued in the theft.

Consider it Karma.

 

[Redfish]

The so-called Supreme Court is just as flawed, refusing to enforce the Constitution.


You should admit the facts, and simply enjoy having gotten away with stealing the election.

The rest of us know it, and are laughing at the results you have accrued in the theft.

Consider it Karma.


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correct, the 2020 election was in fact a coup of the US government, perpetrated by the DNC, our corrupt lying media, and China. It was done to install a puppet president and stop Trump from exposing the DC corruption, as he would surely have done in second term. They pulled it off, the only coup of the US government in our history, and the idiot libs on this board are celebrating like the fools that they are. The only country that would allow them to exist is about to disappear because of their stupidity.

 

[PoliticalChic]

correct, the 2020 election was in fact a coup of the US government, perpetrated by the DNC, our corrupt lying media, and China. It was done to install a puppet president and stop Trump from exposing the DC corruption, as he would surely have done in second term. They pulled it off, the only coup of the US government in our history, and the idiot libs on this board are celebrating like the fools that they are. The only country that would allow them to exist is about to disappear because of their stupidity.

Sad, but true.

 

[Slade3200]

I repeated the exact and specific language of the US Constitution.

If you were an American, that would have resonsated.'

Here is is again....proving the election illegitimate.



The Constitution is known as ‘the law of the land.’

The U.S. Constitution calls itself the "supreme law of the land." This clause is taken to mean that when state constitutions or laws passed by state legislatures or the national Congress are found to conflict with the federal Constitution, they have no force.

The Constitution as Supreme Law

http://www.let.rug.nl › usa › outlines › government-1991




The fact is that the only document that Americans have agreed to be governed by is the Constitution. It is written in English….no ‘interpretation’ is required.



Wherein we find this:
Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.
Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”



McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1 (1892)

supreme.justia.com



But....this occurred: courts altered voting rules.
“In Pennsylvania, the question was whether the state’s Supreme Court could override voting rules set by the state legislature. In North Carolina, the question was whether state election officials had the power to alter such voting rules.”
NYTimes

Sooo.....no, the election was not correctly decided, and we don't actually know who won the election.






Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly referred to as the Supremacy Clause. It establishes that the federal constitution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions.

Supremacy Clause | Wex | US Law







BTW....I'm never wrong.

There you go another copy and paste repeat. If you’re not able to respond to my counter arguments and your only tactic is repeating you’re original arguement in a long winded copy and paste then you really have nothing. You’re wrong and you lose the debate

 

[Slade3200]

The so-called Supreme Court is just as flawed, refusing to enforce the Constitution.


You should admit the facts, and simply enjoy having gotten away with stealing the election.

The rest of us know it, and are laughing at the results you have accrued in the theft.

Consider it Karma.


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Whether YOU think their decisions are flawed matters not to their CONSTITUTIONALLY given role. They are the third arm of our government and an important element of checks and balances. Their decisions are up for appeal and change as well, that’s how the system is designed. You dismissing and ignoring them is a disregard of the constitution in which you are hinging your entire argument on. You do see the stupidity in that don’t you?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

but you are happy with senile joe and the SFO ho? happy with $5 gas and 8% inflation? happy that the world is laughing at us for putting incompetents in charge? you morons cheated to put the worst president in history in office, the truth is obvious and will come out. Biden did not win the 2020 election from his basement or his rallies of 50 people.

We voted in a new president to get rid of the most racist president since Woodrow Wilson.

I guess you idiots have to tell yourselves something since Trump got his ass handed to him.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There you go another copy and paste repeat. If you’re not able to respond to my counter arguments and your only tactic is repeating you’re original arguement in a long winded copy and paste then you really have nothing. You’re wrong and you lose the debate

I never mind smashing any number of custard pies into the ugly kissers of posers like you.


Now....this may be a problem for you because the query contains word of more than two syllables.....but try:


Under the guidance of the US Constitution, which governmental body has the exclusive.....

[exclusive: restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned]

....power to alter voting times and methods?



You missed the answer three times already, but I understand your......disability.......so I'll provide it again:

Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.
Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”



McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1 (1892)

supreme.justia.com



But....this occurred: courts altered voting rules.
“In Pennsylvania, the question was whether the state’s Supreme Court could override voting rules set by the state legislature. In North Carolina, the question was whether state election officials had the power to alter such voting rules.”
NYTimes

Sooo.....no, the election was not correctly decided, and we don't actually know who won the election.






Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly referred to as the Supremacy Clause. It establishes that the federal constitution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions.

Supremacy Clause | Wex | US Law







BTW....I'm never wrong.





Now......I understand you are a Democrat, with Democrat proclivities.......but do your best not to lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whether YOU think their decisions are flawed matters not to their CONSTITUTIONALLY given role. They are the third arm of our government and an important element of checks and balances. Their decisions are up for appeal and change as well, that’s how the system is designed. You dismissing and ignoring them is a disregard of the constitution in which you are hinging your entire argument on. You do see the stupidity in that don’t you?

Again????

I'll make it larger.


Under the second clause of Article II of the Constitution, the legislatures of the several states have exclusive power to direct the manner in which the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed.
Such appointment may be made by the legislatures directly, or by popular vote in districts, or by general ticket, as may be provided by the legislature.”



McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1 (1892)

supreme.justia.com





Now.....which is the only state body that can alter the time or methods of voting????





Tell me if you see the problem here:


“In Pennsylvania, the question was whether the state’s Supreme Court could override voting rules set by the state legislature. In North Carolina, the question was whether state election officials had the power to alter such voting rules.”
NYTimes




Are you lying scum????

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whether YOU think their decisions are flawed matters not to their CONSTITUTIONALLY given role. They are the third arm of our government and an important element of checks and balances. Their decisions are up for appeal and change as well, that’s how the system is designed. You dismissing and ignoring them is a disregard of the constitution in which you are hinging your entire argument on. You do see the stupidity in that don’t you?

Do you know why the Constituion is called the "law of the land"????

 

[PoliticalChic]

Whether YOU think their decisions are flawed matters not to their CONSTITUTIONALLY given role. They are the third arm of our government and an important element of checks and balances. Their decisions are up for appeal and change as well, that’s how the system is designed. You dismissing and ignoring them is a disregard of the constitution in which you are hinging your entire argument on. You do see the stupidity in that don’t you?

Which takes precident, a state supreme court......or the US Constitution?



C'mon.....you can do it.

Here's a hint:


Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly referred to as the Supremacy Clause. It establishes that the federal constitCution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions.

Supremacy Clause | Wex | US Law

 

[Slade3200]

Do you know why the Constituion is called the "law of the land"????

Yes, the same constitution that empowers the judicial branch as a check and balance on the legislative. The same one that specifies that each state run their own independent elections.

 

[Slade3200]

Which takes precident, a state supreme court......or the US Constitution?



C'mon.....you can do it.

Here's a hint:


Article VI, Paragraph 2 of the U.S. Constitution is commonly referred to as the Supremacy Clause. It establishes that the federal constitCution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions.

Supremacy Clause | Wex | US Law

Yup, you just sank your argument with that one. The federal constitution takes precedence over state supreme courts. The way constitutionality and laws are challenged is through the courts. Your bogus claims of a stolen election was challenge in both state and federal courts, as directed by the constitution…. all the bogus claims flopped. Just like your position in this debate.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes, the same constitution that empowers the judicial branch as a check and balance on the legislative. The same one that specifies that each state run their own independent elections.

There is no such power in the Constitution.
Your ignorance forces you to be a liar.

“If the framers—the authors and, most important, the ratifiers of the Constitution—had decided to grant the power, one would expect to see it, like the analogous presidential veto power, not only plainly stated but limited by giving conditions for its exercise and by making clear provision for Congress to have the last word. It appears that the framers mistakenly envisioned the power as involving merely the application of clear rules to disallow clear violations, something that in fact rarely occurs.” Professor Lino Graglia, https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817946020_1.pdf



Does the Constitution state that only the state legislature can alter dates and manners of voting?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yup, you just sank your argument with that one. The federal constitution takes precedence over state supreme courts. The way constitutionality and laws are challenged is through the courts. Your bogus claims of a stolen election was challenge in both state and federal courts, as directed by the constitution…. all the bogus claims flopped. Just like your position in this debate.

No, you ignorant sub-human: the ammendment process is the way it is changed.



Does the Constitution state that only the state legislature can alter dates and manners of voting?

Is there an ammendment altering that?????


Face facts....you have simply been trained to be a Nazi.

 

[Oddball]

We voted in a new president to get rid of the most racist president since Woodrow Wilson.

I guess you idiots have to tell yourselves something since Trump got his ass handed to him.

Trump was no more "radical" than a 1980s democrat, you pearl clutching moonbat!

 

[Slade3200]

There is no such power in the Constitution.
Your ignorance forces you to be a liar.

“If the framers—the authors and, most important, the ratifiers of the Constitution—had decided to grant the power, one would expect to see it, like the analogous presidential veto power, not only plainly stated but limited by giving conditions for its exercise and by making clear provision for Congress to have the last word. It appears that the framers mistakenly envisioned the power as involving merely the application of clear rules to disallow clear violations, something that in fact rarely occurs.” Professor Lino Graglia, https://www.hoover.org/sites/default/files/uploads/documents/0817946020_1.pdf



Does the Constitution state that only the state legislature can alter dates and manners of voting?

The constitution states a lot of things including the division of powers within a system of checks and balances. So while the legislature has its roll in passing laws and setting procedure, the courts also have a role in determining the lawfulness of the execution of those laws per the constitution and historical precedent

 

[Slade3200]

No, you ignorant sub-human: the ammendment process is the way it is changed.



Does the Constitution state that only the state legislature can alter dates and manners of voting?

Is there an ammendment altering that?????


Face facts....you have simply been trained to be a Nazi.

Yup, the amendment process is absolutely the way to change the powers granted by our constitution. The fact remains that the constitution still contains a checks and balances system where the courts play a specific roll. You can’t lean on the constitution and then dismiss the roll it defines for our judicial branch. You’re trying to do this but it is shating all over your argument. Sorry a boot that

 

[Slade3200]

The people who insist there was no fraud keep acting like there was when they refuse to comply a subpoena.

HARRISBURG – Senate President Pro Tempore Jake Corman (R-Bellefonte) and Senate Intergovernmental Operations Committee Chair Cris Dush (R-Jefferson) issued the following statement today after filing a petition to compel the Department of State to comply with a subpoena for information relevant to the committee’s election investigation:


“Throughout the past several months since our investigation began, the Wolf Administration, Senate Democrats and Attorney General Shapiro have unfairly denied a co-equal branch of government the tools necessary to repair the vulnerabilities of our election system. Today’s legal action is intended to finally bring their needless delays and continued obstruction to an end.


“It is an embarrassment to our Commonwealth that the Department of State still refuses to comply with a legal, legitimate subpoena from a co-equal branch of government. The fact that the Department wouldn’t even turn over basic information included in the subpoena without pages upon pages of unexplained redactions shows they have no respect for the legislature or the courts. They should not be allowed to thumb their nose at the other two branches of government with impunity.

Not a conspiracy in anyway. Just a demand to help make elections more secure by looking at the information the SOS has no right to withhold.

BREAKING: Pennsylvania Senators Jake Corman and Cris Dush File Petition to Compel Sec of State to Comply with Election Related Subpoena | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

President Trump released a statement this evening about the election activities in Pennsylvania being blocked by the corrupt Secretary of State.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Those who aren’t complying with subpoenas are doing so for the exact same reason as the Trumpers and Trump himself ignored subpoenas. I don’t recall you making a stink about that and claim their disregard for cooperation as proof of guilt. Why’s that?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The constitution states a lot of things including the division of powers within a system of checks and balances. So while the legislature has its roll in passing laws and setting procedure, the courts also have a role in determining the lawfulness of the execution of those laws per the constitution and historical precedent

Does the Constitution state that only the state legislature can alter dates and manners of voting?

Is there an ammendment altering that?????

You lied, and I obliterated the lie....and any cachet you might have had.


Face facts....you have simply been trained to be a Nazi.

 

[Slade3200]

Does the Constitution state that only the state legislature can alter dates and manners of voting?

Is there an ammendment altering that?????

You lied, and I obliterated the lie....and any cachet you might have had.


Face facts....you have simply been trained to be a Nazi.

There you go again copy and pasting your repeat mumbo jumbo that I already addressed instead of responding to my counter argument. You lose