If There Is No God, Murder Is Not Wrong

Your logic is incoherent.

If morality is merely what humans have created as their best system to advance well-being, then there are objective right and wrong answers using cause and effect analysis to determine the best moral systems.

That's also indicative in reality, and not just philosophically - as we evolve, previously accepted morals have become barbaric, or extinct. That's due to a better cause/effect analysis, as it pertains to well-being.

It's pretty simple shit.

You'll never be the toughest guy on earth...therefore, it's probably not a good idea to let folks Murder, because it would damage your own well-being.

From there, it's a logical chain of "morals" that becomes self evident, in nature alone. No God needed but in FACT, the "God" of the bible is not trust-worthy, as he's ordered genocide, rape, baby killing etc. in one "covenant" and changed his mind in the next. His morals are subjective, not universal or unchanging...and they're also pretty abhorrent, at that.

Secular society has caused almost ALL religions to, COUGH, "reinterpret" their scriptures as we've evolved to thinking that their past interpretations were Barbaric. That's history, fingers in your ears.
There you go. Morality is OK when it’s defined by YOU. But YOU are just one voice of 3 BILLION voices.

Your inability to grasp the basic logic of who’s going to set rules for behavior is troubling for society. It’s why we are seeing a resurgence of advocates for communism and socialism. You can’t learn basic principles.

Let me help you.

Jeffry Dahmer is just as moral as Mother Teresa if there is no God. Fact. No dancing around it.
Morality is not some magical thing bestowed upon us. Its a mere name we have given to our ethical systems. The argument youre having with yourself presupposes that its magical. Its not. Its apparent survival ethics. Cause and effect. Easy concepts.
We are just animals and kill for pleasure as well as for food.

It’s only natural to shoot children.
According to you.

What I see is that humans form social communes and they've elevated us to the fittest species on earth.
Ah, humans form social communities for morality!

Like the community that took hundreds of thousands of babies by the feet and bashed their brains out against this tree.

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Perfectly acceptable and unacceptable for you to push your twisted beliefs upon them.
No, dunce.

That story is horrible to folks like me because morality is our ethical system based on well being, and that was antithetical to that and therefore monstrous.

But of course...YOU are saying without sky daddy YOU have it in YOU to be one of those monsters. SICK! Get your fuckin head examined.
 
Absolute nonsense. Every culture has had laws against harming others, whether murder, rape or just assault. There have been social classes that were exempt, but that is more about corruption than about morality.

I have had numerous people tell me that without God people would murder and rape as much as they wanted. I find that laughable. Right now I murder and rape as much as I want.
Many cultures have not. In just the past century godless Governments have slaughtered over 262 MILLION of their OWN CITIZENS.

And they did it because they FELT it was the right thing to do.
Sorry. Wasn't "the govt" It's was the flag waving mindless unemployables in Halloween suits laced with jingles fronm a Cracker Jack box "
: Just doing my job sir, following orders. YES SIR" ( Salute here)
These are the problem. The govts are a fucking joke. One small battalion could take out every one of those tie wearing fuckwads in a couple hours and start over.
Kim Dong Ill and his heyboys could be turned on and eliminated before the weekend. Every single one of them.


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There you go. Morality is OK when it’s defined by YOU. But YOU are just one voice of 3 BILLION voices.

Your inability to grasp the basic logic of who’s going to set rules for behavior is troubling for society. It’s why we are seeing a resurgence of advocates for communism and socialism. You can’t learn basic principles.

Let me help you.

Jeffry Dahmer is just as moral as Mother Teresa if there is no God. Fact. No dancing around it.
Morality is not some magical thing bestowed upon us. Its a mere name we have given to our ethical systems. The argument youre having with yourself presupposes that its magical. Its not. Its apparent survival ethics. Cause and effect. Easy concepts.
We are just animals and kill for pleasure as well as for food.

It’s only natural to shoot children.
According to you.

What I see is that humans form social communes and they've elevated us to the fittest species on earth.
Ah, humans form social communities for morality!

Like the community that took hundreds of thousands of babies by the feet and bashed their brains out against this tree.

View attachment 274410

Perfectly acceptable and unacceptable for you to push your twisted beliefs upon them.
No, dunce.

That story is horrible to folks like me because morality is our ethical system based on well being, and that was antithetical to that and therefore monstrous.

But of course...YOU are saying without sky daddy YOU have it in YOU to be one of those monsters. SICK! Get your fuckin head examined.
If Hitler and Japan won WW2 your version of morality would make MS-13 look like a kids show.
 
Morality is not some magical thing bestowed upon us. Its a mere name we have given to our ethical systems. The argument youre having with yourself presupposes that its magical. Its not. Its apparent survival ethics. Cause and effect. Easy concepts.
We are just animals and kill for pleasure as well as for food.

It’s only natural to shoot children.
According to you.

What I see is that humans form social communes and they've elevated us to the fittest species on earth.
Ah, humans form social communities for morality!

Like the community that took hundreds of thousands of babies by the feet and bashed their brains out against this tree.

View attachment 274410

Perfectly acceptable and unacceptable for you to push your twisted beliefs upon them.
No, dunce.

That story is horrible to folks like me because morality is our ethical system based on well being, and that was antithetical to that and therefore monstrous.

But of course...YOU are saying without sky daddy YOU have it in YOU to be one of those monsters. SICK! Get your fuckin head examined.
If Hitler and Japan won WW2 your version of morality would make MS-13 look like a kids show.
Hitler winning world war 2 would be conducive to well being, and survival?

You need your head examined.
 
Absolute nonsense. Every culture has had laws against harming others, whether murder, rape or just assault. There have been social classes that were exempt, but that is more about corruption than about morality.

I have had numerous people tell me that without God people would murder and rape as much as they wanted. I find that laughable. Right now I murder and rape as much as I want.
Many cultures have not. In just the past century godless Governments have slaughtered over 262 MILLION of their OWN CITIZENS.

And they did it because they FELT it was the right thing to do.
Sorry. Wasn't "the govt" It's was the flag waving mindless unemployables in Halloween suits laced with jingles fronm a Cracker Jack box "
: Just doing my job sir, following orders. YES SIR" ( Salute here)
These are the problem. The govts are a fucking joke. One small battalion could take out every one of those tie wearing fuckwads in a couple hours and start over.
Kim Dong Ill and his heyboys could be turned on and eliminated before the weekend. Every single one of them.


KISSINGER-MILITARY-MEN-STUPID-DUMB-ANIMALS-FOERIGN-POLICY.jpg
Can you translate your ranted babbling into English?
 
We are just animals and kill for pleasure as well as for food.

It’s only natural to shoot children.
According to you.

What I see is that humans form social communes and they've elevated us to the fittest species on earth.
Ah, humans form social communities for morality!

Like the community that took hundreds of thousands of babies by the feet and bashed their brains out against this tree.

View attachment 274410

Perfectly acceptable and unacceptable for you to push your twisted beliefs upon them.
No, dunce.

That story is horrible to folks like me because morality is our ethical system based on well being, and that was antithetical to that and therefore monstrous.

But of course...YOU are saying without sky daddy YOU have it in YOU to be one of those monsters. SICK! Get your fuckin head examined.
If Hitler and Japan won WW2 your version of morality would make MS-13 look like a kids show.
Hitler winning world war 2 would be conducive to well being, and survival?

You need your head examined.
Pure evolution.
 
If there is no God, murder isn't wrong. You may think it's wrong, but how do you know it's wrong? As Dennis Prager explains, without God, all morality is mere opinion.


That is absurd. There is morality even without G-d

Damn you’re either so evil that you need to be threatened in order not to kill someone or you’re just an idiot

There is morality even without G-d

Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.
 
If there is no God, murder isn't wrong. You may think it's wrong, but how do you know it's wrong? As Dennis Prager explains, without God, all morality is mere opinion.


That is absurd. There is morality even without G-d

Damn you’re either so evil that you need to be threatened in order not to kill someone or you’re just an idiot

There is morality even without G-d

Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.
 
If there is no God, murder isn't wrong. You may think it's wrong, but how do you know it's wrong? As Dennis Prager explains, without God, all morality is mere opinion.


That is absurd. There is morality even without G-d

Damn you’re either so evil that you need to be threatened in order not to kill someone or you’re just an idiot

There is morality even without G-d

Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral,

Defend to whom? Their morality is equal to yours. You’re a prima-donna thinking your version is superior. In fact, Darwinism says you are in the wrong.
 
If there is no God, murder isn't wrong. You may think it's wrong, but how do you know it's wrong? As Dennis Prager explains, without God, all morality is mere opinion.


That is absurd. There is morality even without G-d

Damn you’re either so evil that you need to be threatened in order not to kill someone or you’re just an idiot

There is morality even without G-d

Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.

Darwin says you’re wrong.
 
If there is no God, murder isn't wrong. You may think it's wrong, but how do you know it's wrong? As Dennis Prager explains, without God, all morality is mere opinion.


That is absurd. There is morality even without G-d

Damn you’re either so evil that you need to be threatened in order not to kill someone or you’re just an idiot

There is morality even without G-d

Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral,

Defend to whom? Their morality is equal to yours. You’re a prima-donna thinking your version is superior. In fact, Darwinism says you are in the wrong.

Their morality is inferior to mine. You think that genocide is moral, congratulations psycho!
 
If there is no God, murder isn't wrong. You may think it's wrong, but how do you know it's wrong? As Dennis Prager explains, without God, all morality is mere opinion.


That is absurd. There is morality even without G-d

Damn you’re either so evil that you need to be threatened in order not to kill someone or you’re just an idiot

There is morality even without G-d

Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.

They couldnt logically defend that they were moral,

Defend to whom? Their morality is equal to yours. You’re a prima-donna thinking your version is superior. In fact, Darwinism says you are in the wrong.

Their morality is inferior to mine. You think that genocide is moral, congratulations psycho!

Says who? You? :21:
 
That is absurd. There is morality even without G-d

Damn you’re either so evil that you need to be threatened in order not to kill someone or you’re just an idiot
There is morality even without G-d

Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.
They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.
They couldnt logically defend that they were moral,

Defend to whom? Their morality is equal to yours. You’re a prima-donna thinking your version is superior. In fact, Darwinism says you are in the wrong.
Their morality is inferior to mine. You think that genocide is moral, congratulations psycho!
Says who? You? :21:
Says Logic.


Also, your god drown more plants, animals and humans than any pol pot or hitler ever did. Congrats, scum of the earth...you worship an immoral monster from a fairy tale. Are you eleven?
 
Of course there is, nobody claimed Hitler and Pol Pot or Jeffery Dahmer didn’t have morality.
They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.
They couldnt logically defend that they were moral,

Defend to whom? Their morality is equal to yours. You’re a prima-donna thinking your version is superior. In fact, Darwinism says you are in the wrong.
Their morality is inferior to mine. You think that genocide is moral, congratulations psycho!
Says who? You? :21:
Says Logic.


Also, your god drown more plants, animals and humans than any pol pot or hitler ever did. Congrats, scum of the earth...you worship an immoral monster from a fairy tale. Are you eleven?
Logic and the laws of nature says survival of the fittest. Don’t try to shove the morality you borrowed from religion onto what is natural.
 
They couldnt logically defend that they were moral, but I bet they were at least mentally ill whereas YOU? Youre a guy with only the threat of sky daddy keeping your from being a baby killing, homicidal maniac.

Congratulations on being scum of the earth.
They couldnt logically defend that they were moral,

Defend to whom? Their morality is equal to yours. You’re a prima-donna thinking your version is superior. In fact, Darwinism says you are in the wrong.
Their morality is inferior to mine. You think that genocide is moral, congratulations psycho!
Says who? You? :21:
Says Logic.


Also, your god drown more plants, animals and humans than any pol pot or hitler ever did. Congrats, scum of the earth...you worship an immoral monster from a fairy tale. Are you eleven?
Logic and the laws of nature says survival of the fittest. Don’t try to shove the morality you borrowed from religion onto what is natural.
Yes. and the fittest humans survived by forming communities

communities survive by having an ethic based on well being


youre getting it, dumb dumb!!
 
Defend to whom? Their morality is equal to yours. You’re a prima-donna thinking your version is superior. In fact, Darwinism says you are in the wrong.
Their morality is inferior to mine. You think that genocide is moral, congratulations psycho!
Says who? You? :21:
Says Logic.


Also, your god drown more plants, animals and humans than any pol pot or hitler ever did. Congrats, scum of the earth...you worship an immoral monster from a fairy tale. Are you eleven?
Logic and the laws of nature says survival of the fittest. Don’t try to shove the morality you borrowed from religion onto what is natural.
Yes. and the fittest humans survived by forming communities

communities survive by having an ethic based on well being


youre getting it, dumb dumb!!
Yep. Some of histories communities:
Nazi Germany
Mao China
Stalin Russia
Imperial Japan
Pot Cambodia


All perfect examples of what you say are just as moral as you are because they set rules.
 
Their morality is inferior to mine. You think that genocide is moral, congratulations psycho!
Says who? You? :21:
Says Logic.


Also, your god drown more plants, animals and humans than any pol pot or hitler ever did. Congrats, scum of the earth...you worship an immoral monster from a fairy tale. Are you eleven?
Logic and the laws of nature says survival of the fittest. Don’t try to shove the morality you borrowed from religion onto what is natural.
Yes. and the fittest humans survived by forming communities

communities survive by having an ethic based on well being


youre getting it, dumb dumb!!
Yep. Some of histories communities:
Nazi Germany
Mao China
Stalin Russia
Imperial Japan
Pot Cambodia


All perfect examples of what you say are just as moral as you are because they set rules.
False, Nature sets the rules and all of those societies you listed are no longer, as a result.

Good job, dumb dumb.

By the way, nobody "borrowed" morals from religion. Religion was written by US. By humans. Your sky fairy is as fake as a unicorn, and in his story he's more genocidal than hitler. A moral monster.
 

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