If the DNC election was "rigged" - how was it "rigged"?

[Hutch Starskey]

I've done it about 3 or 4 times now. You're a liar.

Then do it again. Shouldn't be a problem, if you're telling the truth. However, I've checked back to the beginning of our discussions. You've cried a lot, raged, hurled insults at me, but no, you've never quoted any emails to me. So, it appears you're not telling the truth there.

Now, it's possible you made such responses to someone else. If you did, I missed them, because your stuff is generally not worth reading, and I'll miss it if it's not addressed to me. Seriously, get over yourself. Nobody really cares if you're screeching incoherently about "corporate whores" or similarly elevating the discussion.

You ran here: Will Kicking Debbie To The Curb Prevent Bernie's Troops From Rioting?

No shit
From:MARSHALL@dnc.org To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 03:31 Subject: No shit
It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

Re: No shit
From:MARSHALL@dnc.org To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 03:33 Subject: Re: No shit
It's these Jesus thing. > On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall <MARSHALL@dnc.org> wrote: > > It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

Re: No shit
FromaceyA@dnc.org To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 12:23 Subject: Re: No shit
AMEN Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer Democratic National Committee 430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003 202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o) DaceyA@dnc.org

From:markpaustenbach@gmail.com To: mirandal@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-21 22:23 Subject: Bernie narrative
Wondering if there's a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess. Specifically, DWS had to call Bernie directly in order to get the campaign to do things because they'd either ignored or forgotten to something critical. She had to call Bernie after the data breach to make his staff to respond to our concerns. Even then they didn't get back to us, which is why we had to shut off their access in order to get them to finally let us know exactly how they snooped around HFA's data. Same was true with the standing committee appointments. They never got back to us with their names (HFA and even O'Malley got there's in six weeks earlier) for the committees. So, again, the chair had to call Bernie personally for his staff to finally get us critical information. So, they gave us an awful list just a few days before we had to make the announcements. It's not a DNC conspiracy, it's because they never had their act together.

No, you arrogant fuck. Get over yourself.

Great, you posted what we've all read several times. Now please show how these discussions were ever implement
From:markpaustenbach@gmail.com To: mirandal@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-21 22:23 Subject: Bernie narrative
Wondering if there's a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess. Specifically, DWS had to call Bernie directly in order to get the campaign to do things because they'd either ignored or forgotten to something critical. She had to call Bernie after the data breach to make his staff to respond to our concerns. Even then they didn't get back to us, which is why we had to shut off their access in order to get them to finally let us know exactly how they snooped around HFA's data. Same was true with the standing committee appointments. They never got back to us with their names (HFA and even O'Malley got there's in six weeks earlier) for the committees. So, again, the chair had to call Bernie personally for his staff to finally get us critical information. So, they gave us an awful list just a few days before we had to make the announcements. It's not a DNC conspiracy, it's because they never had their act together.p
ed or "rigged" and caused Sanders to lose.
That, no one has done.

We knew that the DNC, led by DWS was only for Hillary back when the arguments focused on the debates, and it wasn't just against Sanders it was also against Martin O'Malley. Now, Debbie Wasserman Shultz can spin shit and attempted to push the narrative that Sander's supporters "had a penchant for violence" and this occurred in Nevada. The problem is that the person that initiated the violence was a Hillary supporter that attacked a Sander's supporter. Not the other way around. We already have a narrative that is being pushed. So, you guys can sit there and pretend not a damn thing occurred but I'm going to tell you point blank........it's more than that.

It's the Victory Fund.

You are aware of this:
Democratic Convention Hosted by Republican Donors, Anti-Obamacare Lobbyists




You aren't liberals. Your corporate whores. Can you explain why

You need to explain to us all how the DNC caused Sanders to lose. Your diatribe on the evils of the Democrats is not really interesting or necessary.

 

[Disir]

You need to explain to us all how the DNC caused Sanders to lose. Your diatribe on the evils of the Democrats is not really interesting or necessary.

All I need to do is show you the DNC were a bunch of douchebags. And, no, fucktwit, it is necessary. I want to hear all about how Republicans want to destroy social security while you have a host committee member from Fix the Debt. Remember?
You're frauds.

Ed Rendell is a co-chairman of Fix the Debt.[2] In media appearances, he is only introduced as the former Democratic governor of Pennsylvania (2003-2011), yet he has extensive corporate and financial ties.

UNDISCLOSED CONFLICT OF INTEREST: Rendell lobbied for KCI USA, a wound care technology company, on Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements in 2012.[39] Rendell is special counsel to the law firm Ballard Spahr[40] -- which has been criticized as a union-busting law firm.[41] -- where he focuses on privatization and housing, with an emphasis on infrastructure.[42] Rendell is also a senior adviser at Greenhill & Co., a multinational investment bank. Ninety percent of Greenhill's revenue comes from advisory assignments,[43] including to public officials. Rendell is a strong proponent of "public private partnerships" (PPPs) in infrastructure, which have been criticized as a dubious form of privatization of public assets.[44] Rendell is also on the advisory board of Verdeva, a firm developing technology to track motorists at the gas pump so they can be taxed for infrastructure revenue, an industry-favored measure for developing the income streams they need to finance infrastructure deals.[45] He has also joined the venture capital firm Element Partners as an operating partner.[46] Element Partners recently invested in oil and gas extraction (fracking) from the Marcellus formation.[47]

Fix the Debt's Leadership - SourceWatch

 

[boedicca]

Please explain exactly how it was supposedly "rigged" - with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact. Just because the DNC may have "favored" Hillary over Bernie doesn't mean it was "rigged". The DNC "favored" Obama over Hillary in 2008. Bernie wasn't "cheated" out of anything. The DNC election process never changed from beginning to end. Even Bernie said publicly that Hillary won fair and square - which she did. So, stop with the "rigged" shit or explain to us with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact exactly how it was supposedly "rigged".

Superdelegates.

'nuff said.

 

[Divine Wind]

Not to one such as you. You're a religious fanatic, and like all fanatics, facts don't matter to you. You have "faith". Thus, when slapped in the head with the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun, you'll always come back with "I can't see it, so it didn't happen"..

Like I have been saying. You are brain dead.

He's also a racist. Example:

Yep, ole ******'s days are numbered. Move to the back...

 

[hunarcy]

Gee whiz, still no proof yet...

Proof's been repeatedly given. You just ignore it like the mindless Hillarybot troll that you are.

 

[Disir]

Please explain exactly how it was supposedly "rigged" - with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact. Just because the DNC may have "favored" Hillary over Bernie doesn't mean it was "rigged". The DNC "favored" Obama over Hillary in 2008. Bernie wasn't "cheated" out of anything. The DNC election process never changed from beginning to end. Even Bernie said publicly that Hillary won fair and square - which she did. So, stop with the "rigged" shit or explain to us with "credible" sources that can be verified as fact exactly how it was supposedly "rigged".

It was rigged because the Democratic Party was supporting the Democratic Candidate. Bernie said he wasn't a Democrat. After the convention, he won't be a Democrat. And he refuses to support any Democrat.

He assumes his "revolution" and his "political ideas" are so wanted that entire nation must bow down before his superior knowledge.

Well, I didn't want him. I never wanted him. I think he doesn't even know enough. When asked by the New York post how big was to big to fail, he didn't know. When asked how he would divide up the banks, he said he would leave it to banks. Bernie, in my mind, is a fraud.

Even I know that to big to fail isn't about how big a bank is, but how much debt it accrues. Even I know banks should be divided up by whether their investments are conservative or risky and by what the investors expect.

And I'm not even a banker. Shame on Bernie.

These are issues that the Democrats were for at one time. We can pretend that the Democrats were never for any of this if you like. Heaven knows that you won't be able to get away with that shit now.

 

[owebo]

I've done it about 3 or 4 times now. You're a liar.

Then do it again. Shouldn't be a problem, if you're telling the truth. However, I've checked back to the beginning of our discussions. You've cried a lot, raged, hurled insults at me, but no, you've never quoted any emails to me. So, it appears you're not telling the truth there.

Now, it's possible you made such responses to someone else. If you did, I missed them, because your stuff is generally not worth reading, and I'll miss it if it's not addressed to me. Seriously, get over yourself. Nobody really cares if you're screeching incoherently about "corporate whores" or similarly elevating the discussion.

You ran here: Will Kicking Debbie To The Curb Prevent Bernie's Troops From Rioting?

No shit
From:MARSHALL@dnc.org To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 03:31 Subject: No shit
It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

Re: No shit
From:MARSHALL@dnc.org To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 03:33 Subject: Re: No shit
It's these Jesus thing. > On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall <MARSHALL@dnc.org> wrote: > > It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

Re: No shit
FromaceyA@dnc.org To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 12:23 Subject: Re: No shit
AMEN Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer Democratic National Committee 430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003 202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o) DaceyA@dnc.org

From:markpaustenbach@gmail.com To: mirandal@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-21 22:23 Subject: Bernie narrative
Wondering if there's a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess. Specifically, DWS had to call Bernie directly in order to get the campaign to do things because they'd either ignored or forgotten to something critical. She had to call Bernie after the data breach to make his staff to respond to our concerns. Even then they didn't get back to us, which is why we had to shut off their access in order to get them to finally let us know exactly how they snooped around HFA's data. Same was true with the standing committee appointments. They never got back to us with their names (HFA and even O'Malley got there's in six weeks earlier) for the committees. So, again, the chair had to call Bernie personally for his staff to finally get us critical information. So, they gave us an awful list just a few days before we had to make the announcements. It's not a DNC conspiracy, it's because they never had their act together.

No, you arrogant fuck. Get over yourself.

Great, you posted what we've all read several times. Now please show how these discussions were ever implement
From:markpaustenbach@gmail.com To: mirandal@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-21 22:23 Subject: Bernie narrative
Wondering if there's a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess. Specifically, DWS had to call Bernie directly in order to get the campaign to do things because they'd either ignored or forgotten to something critical. She had to call Bernie after the data breach to make his staff to respond to our concerns. Even then they didn't get back to us, which is why we had to shut off their access in order to get them to finally let us know exactly how they snooped around HFA's data. Same was true with the standing committee appointments. They never got back to us with their names (HFA and even O'Malley got there's in six weeks earlier) for the committees. So, again, the chair had to call Bernie personally for his staff to finally get us critical information. So, they gave us an awful list just a few days before we had to make the announcements. It's not a DNC conspiracy, it's because they never had their act together.p
ed or "rigged" and caused Sanders to lose.
That, no one has done.

We knew that the DNC, led by DWS was only for Hillary back when the arguments focused on the debates, and it wasn't just against Sanders it was also against Martin O'Malley. Now, Debbie Wasserman Shultz can spin shit and attempted to push the narrative that Sander's supporters "had a penchant for violence" and this occurred in Nevada. The problem is that the person that initiated the violence was a Hillary supporter that attacked a Sander's supporter. Not the other way around. We already have a narrative that is being pushed. So, you guys can sit there and pretend not a damn thing occurred but I'm going to tell you point blank........it's more than that.

It's the Victory Fund.

You are aware of this:
Democratic Convention Hosted by Republican Donors, Anti-Obamacare Lobbyists




You aren't liberals. Your corporate whores. Can you explain why

You need to explain to us all how the DNC caused Sanders to lose. Your diatribe on the evils of the Democrats is not really interesting or necessary.

It's over your head....just do as the democrats tell you....the super-delegates have this for you.....

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The DNC knew early on that Sanders was not a path to victory. Hell, he wasn't even a Democrat. His claim to socialism primarily consisted of renaming a couple post offices. He was nothing but hot air. I feel sorry for all the naive young people who bought into his socialist utopia.

So why was he allowed to run in the democratic primaries ?

Why were his followers allowed to think that if they followed the process that they would have a shot at the nomination ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Gotta love the continued defense of the "superdelegate" system by the control freaks of the left wing.

Clinton was out locking those up early. You can bet DWS was there helping her (by defnition...DWS was an SD).

It put Sanders in a bigger hole in terms of morale and fundraising.

Questions about "how was the playing field not level" are at best stupid...at worst blatant attempts to deflect from what is a pretty flawed process.

 

[mamooth]

You ran here: Will Kicking Debbie To The Curb Prevent Bernie's Troops From Rioting?

Excellent! I was hoping that I that if I poked you enough, you'd actually try to back up your bull. Now that you've taken a stand, we can happily knock down your nonsense.

No shit

From:MARSHALL@dnc.org To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 03:31 Subject: No shit
It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

Those who are not stupid will understand that one guy suggesting something doesn't mean the DNC did something.

Hence, no rigging.

If you disagree, please point out where the DNC attacked Sanders for being an atheist.

Re: No shit

From:MARSHALL@dnc.org To: MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org, DaceyA@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 03:33 Subject: Re: No shit
It's these Jesus thing. > On May 5, 2016, at 1:31 AM, Brad Marshall <MARSHALL@dnc.org> wrote: > > It might may no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief. Does he believe in a God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I think I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.

That's the same email. Why did you post it twice?

Re: No shit

FromaceyA@dnc.org To: MARSHALL@dnc.org, MirandaL@dnc.org, PaustenbachM@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-05 12:23 Subject: Re: No shit
AMEN Amy K. Dacey | Chief Executive Officer Democratic National Committee 430 S. Capitol Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003 202-528-7492 (c) | 202-314-2263 (o) DaceyA@dnc.org

From:markpaustenbach@gmail.com To: mirandal@dnc.org Date: 2016-05-21 22:23 Subject: Bernie narrative
Wondering if there's a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess. Specifically, DWS had to call Bernie directly in order to get the campaign to do things because they'd either ignored or forgotten to something critical. She had to call Bernie after the data breach to make his staff to respond to our concerns. Even then they didn't get back to us, which is why we had to shut off their access in order to get them to finally let us know exactly how they snooped around HFA's data. Same was true with the standing committee appointments. They never got back to us with their names (HFA and even O'Malley got there's in six weeks earlier) for the committees. So, again, the chair had to call Bernie personally for his staff to finally get us critical information. So, they gave us an awful list just a few days before we had to make the announcements. It's not a DNC conspiracy, it's because they never had their act together.

So, can you point out where the DNC said the Sanders camapaign was a mess?

No?

Facinating, how you're incapable of understanding the difference between an email and taking action. Alas, such a mental block is only your problem, not ours. (And I'm being charitable by simply assuming you're brainless instead of deliberately dishonest.)

So, you're still batting a perfect .000. And everyone sees it.

No, you arrogant fuck. Get over yourself.

I can imagine what's going on in your skull. "Maybe I can make up for my lack of evidence by screaming insults at the awful people who point out that I have no evidence!" Yeah. You go with that.

Meanwhile, the convention is over, and you're in the dustbin of history. Nobody is paying attention to you and the rest of the badly behaved children. Such a shame. Along with 90+% of the Bernie voters, you could have been a part of something great. Now you'll be remembered as Trump-lackeys who tried to tear down something great.

Now, run along, as I'm sure there are many other people you need to scream "corporate whores!" at.

 

[mamooth]

Superdelegates.

'nuff said.

Clinton romped without the superdelegates.

Hence, that's a profoundly stupid and delusional claim.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Here's another perspective for the super delegate hater dupes.

2,382 delegates needed to secure the nomination.

Clinton pledged delegates- 2,205
Super delegates- 602
Total. 2,807

Sanders pledged delegates- 1,846
Super delegates- 48
Total. 1,894

Now, for those of you who believe that the supers somehow made the race unfair, let's remedy that by dividing them equally between the candidates.

Total super delegates- 712

712/2= 356

Clinton pledged delegates- 2,205
New super delegates- 356
Total. 2,561

Sanders pledged delegates- 1,846
New super delegates- 356
Total. 2,202


RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 â?? Democratic Delegate Count

 

[Wyatt earp]

She got booted....because the emails show the rigging....take your blinders off...talk about brainwashed...jesus

So how did the emails show the rigging?

We've been asking for days and for pages, and just get hysterical weeping and cursing in response. The Little Trump Snowflakes seem to think that constitutes "evidence". Bizarre.

Love how you'll hang onto that word "rigging".

It's unfortunate that people have used that term because that is not what happened.

There is clear evidence that Debbie Wasserfatbutt Shultz and Co. pushed the nomination in Hillary's direction.

Or are you denying that too ?

She quit why ?

Mamooth plays a game. He demands to see the emails and if you can't produce the emails then he/she/it considers you fair game . If you produce the emails then he runs and tries to find someone else, usually on the right, and starts the process all over again.

Mamooth, Rderp, chief sitting bullshiter are the same people who will cry on their death beds that O.J. didn't kill Nicole and Bill Clinton didn't have sex with that woman

 

[LaDexter]

They can blabber all they want.

BERNIE won IOWA's popular vote.
DWS' Zionist corruption rigged the caucus and gave it to Hillary.

BERNIE should've started 2-0, not 1-1.

It was CORRUPTION at the top of the sold out to Zionism DNC that CHEATED for the ZIONIST candidate - HILLARY.

As with all supremacists, DWS hates her same demographic that doesn't agree with her supremacism, hence she hates BERNIE, who is a patriotic Jewish American, not an American ISraeli like DWS.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They can blabber all they want.

BERNIE won IOWA's popular vote.
DWS' Zionist corruption rigged the caucus and gave it to Hillary.

BERNIE should've started 2-0, not 1-1.

It was CORRUPTION at the top of the sold out to Zionism DNC that CHEATED for the ZIONIST candidate - HILLARY.

As with all supremacists, DWS hates her same demographic that doesn't agree with her supremacism, hence she hates BERNIE, who is a patriotic Jewish American, not an American ISraeli like DWS.

Funny, did the Iowa delegation contest either the vote or the allocation of their delegates?
I don't recall seeing any delegation do that during the roll call.

 

[LaDexter]

The DNC refused to release the vote total after Iowa, proving Bernie won.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The DNC refused to release the vote total after Iowa, proving Bernie won.

Does it prove that?
The Iowa delegation never contested either the vote or the delegates.
BTW did Iowa's 1% of the overall delegates cause Sanders to lose the nomination?

You're a long way away from proving the process rigged.

 

[LaDexter]

"The Iowa delegation" was hand picked by DWS.

The race at that point was about MOMENTUM. Bernie goes up 2-0 and it is a different ballgame than 1-1. The DNC cheated Bernie out of Iowa and a 2-0 lead.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

"The Iowa delegation" was hand picked by DWS.

The race at that point was about MOMENTUM. Bernie goes up 2-0 and it is a different ballgame than 1-1. The DNC cheated Bernie out of Iowa and a 2-0 lead.

So Sanders would have had the momentum to overcome his glaring deficit in support he had among key demographic groups if had only won Iowa? That's a spurious claim at best.

 

[LaDexter]

Just do not try to attempt to claim DWS and the DNC did not rig the caucuses to help Hillary...

The DNC is just as corrupt as Hillary has always been.