If someone has advice on how to break through to trump fans I'm all ears.

[Nostra]

More common sense gun regulations might stop some of the murders. Just registering every gun is just one step I would take. It won't lower gun murders to zero but it'll lower the number significantly. But more measures would need to be taken. Like the other day a guy who shouldn't have had a gun took his brothers gun. His brother should go to jail. Then maybe other people will start locking up their guns so their crazy brothers can't get to them. You seem to not want to do anything.

Did you hear about the latest shooting?

The gunman, who has not yet been identified, was armed with a rifle, shotgun and pistol. Police said he fired each weapon and was later found dead toward the back of the church from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

2 Kids Dead, 17 Others Wounded In Minneapolis Church Shooting

The attacker, dressed in all black, fired at children sitting in pews for Mass. Police said the shooter is dead.

www.huffpost.com

Two children are dead and more than a dozen others wounded after a gunman dressed in all black fired on a Catholic school in Minneapolis during Mass.

How does gun registration reduce murders significantly?

Bring links to examples.

 

[jc456]

You mean like how most guns that kill people in blue cities come from red states?

Yep, all the gangs bringing them in

And don't a lot of illegals come in via Texas and AZ?

Red states are sanctuary states. And in the next 3 years ICE won't bother illegal employers in red states. Only blue cities and states. This is all political. Where have all the illegals gone? Red states where they are safe.

 

[jc456]

I was struck by the revelations of text messages by Jeanine Pirro to Ronna McDaniel for two reasons. But first, here is what she wrote.

Ms. Pirro, a former Fox News host who is now the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., told Ronna McDaniel, then the Republican National Committee chair, in a text in the months before the election: “I work so hard for the President and the party.” Ms. Pirro had been pushing for a pardon from Mr. Trump for her ex-husband, Smartmatic argues.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/business/media/fox-news-trump-election-documents.html

A weekend personality on Fox made her case for her ex-hubby's pardon by sending the message about how she used her position as a broadcaster to work for trump and the Repub party. Other text messages from other anchors show just how much Fox was in the tank for trump by fomenting the "stop the steal" lie. This, from a cable station many millions of conservatives rely on for accurate information to inform their opinions. The problem being, it isn't accurate.

As a quick aside, consider how radically different the political landscape would be if the Fox talking heads had done what they should have done, what the facts told them to do, acknowledge trump's defeat.

The second thing is Pirro was rewarded for her hard work shilling for trump by being nominated to be the US Attorney for DC. Replacing Ed Martin.......a man so corrupt even Senate Repubs refused to confirm him. Repubs had no problem confirming Pirro despite the obvious compromise of her ethics and lack of ability to make impartial prosecutorial decisions. A furtherance of the corruption of the judiciary by trump as a reward for Jeanine's loyalty.

Back to my original question. How can I get trump devotees to take the small step of recognizing Jeanine Pirro should not have been nominated, nor confirmed, to be DC's US Attorney in light of this unequivocal evidence? Because if you can, perhaps you can take the next step. Maybe look in to Ed Martin and why Repubs refused to confirm him. More importantly, ask yourselves how trump could have put him in a temporary role as US Attorney in the first place and then assigned him to work for the DoJ.

Then maybe, just maybe, you can take the final step. You can ask yourselves why being in agreement with trump on border security has translated to support of what happened to Andry Hernandez Romero. Or this...........

Father of 3 Marines Who Was Beaten by ICE Agents Released, Leaving Family to Process His Detention​

Father of 3 Marines Who Was Beaten by ICE Agents Released, Leaving Family to Process His Detention | Military.com

www.military.com

Or this.........

Judge calls Trump DOJ’s request to release Epstein grand jury records a ‘diversion’​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/20/trump-epstein-grand-jury-judge-diversion.html

Or this.......

Trump says U.S. will not approve solar or wind power projects​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/20/trump-says-us-will-not-approve-solar-or-wind-power-projects.html

Or this.........

Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?​

Trump vows to try banning mail-in voting before 2026 midterm elections — can he do that?

President Trump says he plans to sign an executive order "to end mail-in ballots, because they're corrupt." Here's what to know about his claims.

www.cbsnews.com

What’s the reason for this thread? More demofk thinking they are still in control

 

[scruffy]

 

[sealybobo]

Ok, so you think you have a way to take a gun someone shot someone with and track it back to where it was purchased? And how exactly will that prevent the shooting you just picked up the gun from?

I think you might find some criminal activity. I think you might find loopholes or holes in the system that allow gun manufacturers to produce more guns than are being legally sold.

It's like Trump wanting to audit a state election afterward. To see if there are any shinanigans going on.

How is looking at Social Security going to save us money? Oh, you think you discovered that 150 year olds were collecting social security? Maybe if every gun manufactured had to be registered, we'd find some peculiar things. But the gun lobby doesn't want that.

Then you start seeing these guns who were sold at straw purchases, overwhelmingly end up on the streets of Chicago and Detroit. Starting putting 2 and 2 together.

Based on trace data of guns recovered from crime scenes, illegal firearms in Chicago primarily come from inside Illinois and neighboring states with weaker gun laws, particularly Indiana. The flow of guns from other states is often referred to as the "Iron Pipeline".

Most crime guns in Chicago come from straw purchases and Indiana where they have really lax gun laws. So red states not being responsible are affecting blue cities.

 

[sealybobo]

How does gun registration reduce murders significantly?

Bring links to examples.

Yes let me do a bunch of homework for you. LOL

I just showed most gun crimes in Chicago are from straw purchases and neighboring Indiana. So we actually DO know where the illegal guns are coming from.

 

[Hafar1014]

Nearly half of people convicted of the same crimes as Donald Trump are sent to prison, study finds​

Nearly half of people convicted of the same crimes as Trump go to jail, study finds

Trump is set to be sentenced on November 26

www.independent.co.uk

Is there any evidence the members of the grand juries who indicted trump and the juries that convicted him are all Dems? As you can tell I hate false equivalences and broad brush accusations. As of now, no one trump is attacking with the DoJ has been indicted of anything.

I'm sure you know the laws Hunter Biden broke, ones for which he was prosecuted while his dad was prez, are rarely prosecuted.

All the cases against Trump collapsed or were dismissed. The one conviction was kangaroo court and a corrupt judge.

 

[jc456]

How is looking at Social Security going to save us money? Oh, you think you discovered that 150 year olds were collecting social security? Maybe if every gun manufactured had to be registered, we'd find some peculiar things. But the gun lobby doesn't want that.

How, we can't even find the people who receive SS Checks who don't qualify. It's a waste of fking time and money. Wouldn't resolve the reason why the maniac bought the gun, found the gun, or used the gun. The reason for gun alivings is people not any tool used. Why don't you just shut the fk up, you are a useless demofks who has no brain.

 

[sealybobo]

How, we can't even find the people who receive SS Checks who don't qualify. It's a waste of fking time and money. Wouldn't resolve the reason why the maniac bought the gun, found the gun, or used the gun. The reason for gun alivings is people not any tool used. Why don't you just shut the fk up, you are a useless demofks who has no brain.

Yea, you should probably ask yourself why so many poor or stupid Americans go on rampages. Economic despair? Brainwashed and riled up by Trump or MSNBC? Maybe instead of cutting funding for mental health we should....

I saw a great comic last night. Holy shit the same shit going on in America with the right wing rich and racists taking over, it's happening in England too. Probably happened there first.

This guy loves to piss off rich white men in England. Who sound just like rich white men in America. Republicans.

Nish Kumar - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[jc456]

Yea, you should probably ask yourself why so many poor or stupid Americans go on rampages.

ask the people in Chiraq, 60 shot and 8 dead and you don't fking care. It's really that fking simple.

And I asked you fkers to post another city that had similar weekend stats, and crickets.

You are not for truth, but for fake.

 

[sealybobo]

ask the people in Chiraq, 60 shot and 8 dead and you don't fking care. It's really that fking simple.

And I asked you fkers to post another city that had similar weekend stats, and crickets.

You are not for truth, but for fake.

Bullshit.

Clean these states up first. Or can't you?

 

[jc456]

Bullshit.

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Clean these states up first. Or can't you?

that didn't answer my question. Standard play by you. You have nothing your shit is shit. can't name another city that had 60 shootings and 8 unalives. Can you? Deflect again grasshopper.

 

[jc456]

Bullshit.

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Clean these states up first. Or can't you?

those are demofk cities, why don't you clean them up, the conservative cities aren't near any of this rage. So feel free, why do demofk mayors suck to take care of their peoples?

 

[sealybobo]

that didn't answer my question. Standard play by you. You have nothing your shit is shit. can't name another city that had 60 shootings and 8 unalives. Can you? Deflect again grasshopper.

Don't worry about our city. The governors don't want you to come. It's clearly political.

I'm sure all those red states WANT Trump to occupy their Democratic cites.

Stop being obtuse.

 

[sealybobo]

those are demofk cities, why don't you clean them up, the conservative cities aren't near any of this rage. So feel free, why do demofk mayors suck to take care of their peoples?

Yes, so go in and clean them up! The Republican governors in those red states will welcome the Marines. DO IT *****!

 

[jc456]

Don't worry about our city. The governors don't want you to come. It's clearly political.

I'm sure all those red states WANT Trump to occupy their Democratic cites.

Stop being obtuse.

so no other city in the country like Chiraq, you just confirmed it, and Trump is spot fking on.

 

[sealybobo]

so no other city in the country like Chiraq, you just confirmed it, and Trump is spot fking on.

Who cares? Stay out of IL. You have 10 blue cities that are the WORST in America. Go clean them up.

What are you going to do in Chicago you dumb ass? The gangs committing this violence will just disappear until you are gone.

Let's see long term solutions in those Red states that have high crime Democratic cites. Go in and fix them, *****.

Or is this just politics? Theater???

 

[jc456]

Yes, so go in and clean them up! The Republican governors in those red states will welcome the Marines. DO IT *****!

why? are the people there complaining like the Chicago folks? Chicago people have requested Trump bring in the NG. Why are you ignoring that as well? Feel free to post Youtube videos of other city people pleading for NG. You really hate blacks don't you!! you a good ole kkker.

 

[sealybobo]

why? are the people there complaining like the Chicago folks? Chicago people have requested Trump bring in the NG. Why are you ignoring that as well? Feel free to post Youtube videos of other city people pleading for NG. You really hate blacks don't you!! you a good ole kkker.

No Chicago people have not requested Trump bring in the National Guard. The governor has the power to do that and he says this is a joke.

Why aren't the people in those Red states begging Trump to come in? They have the nations top 10 most dangerous cities.

This is politics. So you have some MAGA republicans on youtube asking for the military to invade? Gimme a break.

Can you show me one video of a black person in Chicago asking for Trump to send in the Marines?

 

[jc456]

No Chicago people have not requested Trump bring in the National Guard. The governor has the power to do that and he says this is a joke.

why do you feel the need to lie every post. I don't get it