If someone has advice on how to break through to trump fans I'm all ears.

[sealybobo]

why do you feel the need to lie every post. I don't get it

Yes we should do more to clean up crime. I'll give you that. Let's see if what Trump does works. Long term.

And again, why not go to Cleveland or Cincinnati and try this? Oh yea. They voted for Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

why do you feel the need to lie every post. I don't get it

Hey, this is a step in the right direction. You guys never seem to want to do anything about gun violence. So you are going to go in and clean up Chicago long term? Cool.

I don't think what you are going to do is going to solve anything. Just might put a pause on violent crime. I think Republican are going do have to do a lot more than just send in the marines to solve violent crime.

Hey, I kind of like this. Regardless of Trump's reasons, maybe this will force the issue of cleaning up violent crime that we have in our inner cities.

 

[Papageorgio]

Congress spoke clearly in 1878 when it passed the Posse Comitatus Act, prohibiting the use of the U.S. military to execute domestic law

Per the judge’s order, the Trump administration will be blocked from “deploying, ordering, instructing, training, or using the National Guard, and any military troops heretofore deployed in California, to execute the laws,” unless it can show “a valid constitutional or statutory exception” to the act. The order is stayed until Sept. 12.
At its height, there were over 4,000 National Guard and 700 Marines deployed to LA, prompting Newsom to sue the administration. Newsom alleged the Trump administration violated the Posse Comitatus Act, a 1789 law that forbids the military from engaging in civilian law enforcement.

To justify its use, Trump asserted that the protests in response to immigration raids led by the Department of Homeland Security and Immigration and Customs Enforcement qualified as “rebellion.”
California Attorney General Rob Bonta and Newsom, however, argued that the deployment was a drastic overreach into the state’s sovereign powers and altogether unnecessary. Usually, National Guard troops are only deployed at the behest of state or city officials. At trial, intelligence and security assessment reports from federal and local enforcement confirmed that concerns to life and property were low before and after raids were conducted and troops were deployed.

Again, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals said that the federal government was with in the rights of deploying the National Guard to Los Angeles, and again, the California Attorney General and Gavin Newsom lost their case. Better luck next time, maybe if California had better control of their issues, they wouldn’t feel the need to interfere with the federal government carrying out its duties.

 

[jc456]

Yes we should do more to clean up crime. I'll give you that. Let's see if what Trump does works. Long term.

And again, why not go to Cleveland or Cincinnati and try this? Oh yea. They voted for Trump.

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Because they didn’t have 60 shot eight unalivings and no one asking

 

[sealybobo]

why do you feel the need to lie every post. I don't get it

So basically 12 black women. That's how many black women in IL want Trump to send in the troops. What about the 92% who didn't vote for Trump? Just because 8% of black women want Trump to break the law and occupy IL, that makes it right? You are one weird dude.

One political science professor breaks down why Trump's decision to repeatedly insert Black women in conversations in front of cameras is a "deliberate political tactic."

“I see Black women, wearing a red MAGA hat, last night on television [saying] ‘Please let the president come in. My son was attacked, my—’ you have a force of Black women, Black women, they’re like, only Trump. They want Trump to come in,” he said. “And you see them, they’re all over the place in Chicago. Because they’re afraid to go out, and they don’t want their son or their daughter killed.”

a handful of Black women in the Windy City who have come forward to claim that the president was talking about them.

Vocal groups of Black Trump supporters in Chicago who regularly attend meetings at City Hall to speak out against Democratic leadership over the past two years typically comprise of about a dozen or so people

Regardless, Trump’s decision to repeatedly highlight Black women is peculiar and misguided at best. Black women overwhelmingly supported former Vice President Kamala Harris nationally in the 2024 presidential election, with 92% of Black female voters casting their ballots for Harris. And Harris handily won Cook County, which includes the city of Chicago, with 70% of the vote.
One Chicago city council member pointed out to the Tribune that Trump’s decision to repeatedly insert Black women in conversations in front of cameras to justify sending troops to Chicago is exploitive.
Conservative leaders are “using people who look like us to steer a narrative that we all know is not true,” Alderwoman Jeanette B. Taylor said.

 

[jc456]

So basically 12 black women. That's how many black women in IL want Trump to send in the troops. What about the 92% who didn't vote for Trump? Just because 8% of black women want Trump to break the law and occupy IL, that makes it right? You are one weird dude.

One political science professor breaks down why Trump's decision to repeatedly insert Black women in conversations in front of cameras is a "deliberate political tactic."

“I see Black women, wearing a red MAGA hat, last night on television [saying] ‘Please let the president come in. My son was attacked, my—’ you have a force of Black women, Black women, they’re like, only Trump. They want Trump to come in,” he said. “And you see them, they’re all over the place in Chicago. Because they’re afraid to go out, and they don’t want their son or their daughter killed.”

a handful of Black women in the Windy City who have come forward to claim that the president was talking about them.

Vocal groups of Black Trump supporters in Chicago who regularly attend meetings at City Hall to speak out against Democratic leadership over the past two years typically comprise of about a dozen or so people

Regardless, Trump’s decision to repeatedly highlight Black women is peculiar and misguided at best. Black women overwhelmingly supported former Vice President Kamala Harris nationally in the 2024 presidential election, with 92% of Black female voters casting their ballots for Harris. And Harris handily won Cook County, which includes the city of Chicago, with 70% of the vote.
One Chicago city council member pointed out to the Tribune that Trump’s decision to repeatedly insert Black women in conversations in front of cameras to justify sending troops to Chicago is exploitive.
Conservative leaders are “using people who look like us to steer a narrative that we all know is not true,” Alderwoman Jeanette B. Taylor said.

Sounds like at least 12 black women who don’t think their government is working for their families, and I’m confident they touch others speaking through them. No matter, you think they aren’t worth it. My point stands

 

[22lcidw]

Hey, this is a step in the right direction. You guys never seem to want to do anything about gun violence. So you are going to go in and clean up Chicago long term? Cool.

I don't think what you are going to do is going to solve anything. Just might put a pause on violent crime. I think Republican are going do have to do a lot more than just send in the marines to solve violent crime.

Hey, I kind of like this. Regardless of Trump's reasons, maybe this will force the issue of cleaning up violent crime that we have in our inner cities.

Progressives have no plans to tell the citizens. They may talk moderate and then when they come to power the extremism will start up again. California was purposely targeted to become Proggish due to the number of electorate votes and Representatives. Stupidity and voting runs concurrently many times.

 

[jc456]

Progressives have no plans to tell the citizens. They may talk moderate and then when they come to power the extremism will start up again. California was purposely targeted to become Proggish due to the number of electorate votes and Representatives. Stupidity and voting runs concurrently many times.

They can never ever be trusted

 

[sealybobo]

Sounds like at least 12 black women who don’t think their government is working for their families, and I’m confident they touch others speaking through them. No matter, you think they aren’t worth it. My point stands

I thought about you last night. Not in a creepy way. By chance United Gangs of America did a piece last night on Chicago gangs. These highlighted these two brothers who would go deep into enemy territory and film them disrespecting the other gangs and they got away with it for years. Eventually they got gunned down. To this day, no one has been charged.

So you tell me how Trump's going to clean up Chicago. He will send in the guard, those gang bangers will lay low until he's gone. And if more police is the answer he should send these Democratic cities more federal dollars. Sending in the troops isn't a long term solution.

I heard business in LA has been down since Trump sent in the troops. 50% down. Trump is bad for the economy. Ask the small business owners of LA

Want to see a funny lie?

Noem says LA 'would have burned down' without Trump's National Guard deployment​

We sent a camera crew to Downtown Los Angeles to see how grateful small businesses are for Trump’s help…



One thing I like is that this is drawing attention to high crime communities and trying to solve the problem. Put them under a microscope. Trump is an idiot but this is an issue we can all agree needs attention. Bravo Mr. Trump. But sending in the military ain't gonna fix anything long term.

 

[Nostra]

I think you might find some criminal activity. I think you might find loopholes or holes in the system that allow gun manufacturers to produce more guns than are being legally sold.

It's like Trump wanting to audit a state election afterward. To see if there are any shinanigans going on.

How is looking at Social Security going to save us money? Oh, you think you discovered that 150 year olds were collecting social security? Maybe if every gun manufactured had to be registered, we'd find some peculiar things. But the gun lobby doesn't want that.

Then you start seeing these guns who were sold at straw purchases, overwhelmingly end up on the streets of Chicago and Detroit. Starting putting 2 and 2 together.

Based on trace data of guns recovered from crime scenes, illegal firearms in Chicago primarily come from inside Illinois and neighboring states with weaker gun laws, particularly Indiana. The flow of guns from other states is often referred to as the "Iron Pipeline".

Most crime guns in Chicago come from straw purchases and Indiana where they have really lax gun laws. So red states not being responsible are affecting blue cities.

Ok, so you admit your plan will not prevent a single shooting.

Got it.

And how do Red state laws affect Chicago? Chicago has strict gun laws. Surely you aren't suggesting criminals ignore gun laws.

 

[Nostra]

Yes let me do a bunch of homework for you. LOL

I just showed most gun crimes in Chicago are from straw purchases and neighboring Indiana. So we actually DO know where the illegal guns are coming from.

Are those guns illegal in Chicago? Ok, so their gun laws don't work

Keep losing, it's what you do best.

 

[Nostra]

Yea, you should probably ask yourself why so many poor or stupid Americans go on rampages. Economic despair? Brainwashed and riled up by Trump or MSNBC? Maybe instead of cutting funding for mental health we should....

I saw a great comic last night. Holy shit the same shit going on in America with the right wing rich and racists taking over, it's happening in England too. Probably happened there first.

This guy loves to piss off rich white men in England. Who sound just like rich white men in America. Republicans.

Nish Kumar - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So the sky high murders in blue cities under Biden were because of "economic despair".

Glad you admit Biden sucked.

 

[Nostra]

Bullshit.

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Clean these states up first. Or can't you?

Clean up the shithole blue cities in those states, clean up the state.

Next?

 

[sealybobo]

Ok, so you admit your plan will not prevent a single shooting.

Got it.

And how do Red state laws affect Chicago? Chicago has strict gun laws. Surely you aren't suggesting criminals ignore gun laws.

Study has shown Indiana's loose gun laws and straw purchases is where a lot of the guns found in Chicago come from.

The other day you guys cried that states like California affect you because that's where the illegal immigrants are coming from. So I know you know what I'm talking about. The crazy stupid shit done in red states spills over into our blue cities.

 

[Nostra]

Yes we should do more to clean up crime. I'll give you that. Let's see if what Trump does works. Long term.

And again, why not go to Cleveland or Cincinnati and try this? Oh yea. They voted for Trump.

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2010-2015?

 

[Nostra]

Hey, this is a step in the right direction. You guys never seem to want to do anything about gun violence. So you are going to go in and clean up Chicago long term? Cool.

I don't think what you are going to do is going to solve anything. Just might put a pause on violent crime. I think Republican are going do have to do a lot more than just send in the marines to solve violent crime.

Hey, I kind of like this. Regardless of Trump's reasons, maybe this will force the issue of cleaning up violent crime that we have in our inner cities.

Did you call for more gun control after Trump was shot?

 

[berg80]

Yes we should do more to clean up crime.

trump's federal government cuts to crime prevention funding go against your desire.

 

[Nostra]

Study has shown Indiana's loose gun laws and straw purchases is where a lot of the guns found in Chicago come from.

The other day you guys cried that states like California affect you because that's where the illegal immigrants are coming from. So I know you know what I'm talking about. The crazy stupid shit done in red states spills over into our blue cities.

No need to point out once again that gun laws don't work, Simp.

 

[sealybobo]

Clean up the shithole blue cities in those states, clean up the state.

Next?

There are a lot of high crime cities in red states. You can blame the Democratic mayor and send in the troops. Sounds like you are bragging about how Trump can eliminate violent crime. How come black people in Cleveland aren't begging for Trump to send the troops in? I found one or 2 online who are begging Trump to do it. From Ohio. Doesn't he care about them?

Or just send in the state troopers. Trump doesn't have to be involved. Let's see TN solve crime in Memphis. Or why hasn't AR solved Little Rock crime? DO IT *****!

 

[Nostra]

There are a lot of high crime cities in red states.

Yeah, the blue shitholes.